facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Cricket > Cricket

Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old October 9, 2013, 01:52 AM
MHRAM MHRAM is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 30, 2013
Favorite Player: Tendo, Shakib, Gilchrist
Posts: 2,226
Default What is the use making such flat pitches

A turning wicket was our best chance of victory. pathetic BCB and curators
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old October 9, 2013, 02:42 AM
Yameen's Avatar
Yameen Yameen is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: June 27, 2004
Location: Bath, United Kingdom
Favorite Player: Jayasuria
Posts: 1,866

Well I believe players have big say in how the pitches should be as they instruct the curators before the game.
__________________
Jamie Siddons is at slip, and decided enough is enough. He yells out. "For christ sake, it's not a 'f*ckin test match."
Waugh replies: " Of course it isn't … You're here. "
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old October 9, 2013, 03:03 AM
Naimul_Hd's Avatar
Naimul_Hd Naimul_Hd is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: October 18, 2008
Location: Global City of Australia
Favorite Player: Shakib, Mashrafe
Posts: 13,320

Quote:
Originally Posted by MHRAM
A turning wicket was our best chance of victory. pathetic BCB and curators
Slow turning wicket does not help much since batmen get lots of time to play. Pitch needs to have some pace and bounce as well to surprise the bastmen with spin. I don't know why our curators are so afraid of producing some bouncy wicket.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old October 9, 2013, 03:07 AM
MHRAM MHRAM is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 30, 2013
Favorite Player: Tendo, Shakib, Gilchrist
Posts: 2,226

Quote:
Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
Slow turning wicket does not help much since batmen get lots of time to play. Pitch needs to have some pace and bounce as well to surprise the bastmen with spin. I don't know why our curators are so afraid of producing some bouncy wicket.
slow wickets.are good for spinners in.short formats but they don't help you get wickets in tests. A pitch wirh turn and bounce would have been good.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old October 9, 2013, 03:20 AM
reyme's Avatar
reyme reyme is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: May 19, 2004
Location: Seattle, WA
Favorite Player: Umpires!
Posts: 3,919

After 12 years of Test cricket we still could not figure out the ideal pitches for Test cricket for us!
__________________
Golf is good, no umpire needed!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old October 9, 2013, 03:32 AM
Maysun's Avatar
Maysun Maysun is offline
MLC World Series I
 
Join Date: April 11, 2011
Location: Dhaka
Posts: 5,889

We just needed a pitch to play on, really..
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old October 9, 2013, 03:51 AM
WarWolf WarWolf is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: March 3, 2007
Favorite Player: Love them all....
Posts: 11,436

We wanted to win a DRAW!
__________________
And Allah Knows the best
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old October 9, 2013, 05:46 AM
MHRAM MHRAM is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 30, 2013
Favorite Player: Tendo, Shakib, Gilchrist
Posts: 2,226

A good pitch for spinners is one of those where the ball has variable bounce plus some cracks available so there can be some sudden turn
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old October 9, 2013, 10:57 AM
adamnsu adamnsu is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: December 12, 2005
Posts: 1,873

This is what we need to outsource from India.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old October 9, 2013, 11:05 AM
Jadukor's Avatar
Jadukor Jadukor is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: October 17, 2010
Location: Bangkok
Favorite Player: Shakib, Brian Lara
Posts: 6,665

Quote:
Originally Posted by MHRAM
A good pitch for spinners is one of those where the ball has variable bounce plus some cracks available so there can be some sudden turn
Wait till day 3 or at least tea session of day two. If there are cracks and variable bounce on day one the pitch would not last five days
__________________
Char Chokka Hoi Hoi... Orange Juice Pamu Koi?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old October 10, 2013, 07:20 PM
Ajfar's Avatar
Ajfar Ajfar is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: February 27, 2006
Location: Connecticut
Favorite Player: Nirala
Posts: 17,347

Quote:
Originally Posted by reyme
After 12 years of Test cricket we still could not figure out the ideal pitches for Test cricket for us!
If our recent success in Test (draw in SL) is any indication, our batting line up may have finally turned a corner. We don't have a bowling line up that is capable of taking 20 wickets. Shakib is coming back to test cricket from an injury, Razzak hasn't touched a red ball in 2 years (even if he did it wouldn't have made a difference), Gazi and Robiul are still a work in progress after their recent success, and Rubel well just look at his average.

As much as we all want to see us go from losing to winning test matches, we first need to learn how to draw test matches. And that's not going to happen with this bowling line up. It's sad but unfortunately the truth. IMO if we were set a more bowling friendly/turning pitch, we might be able to dominate 1-2 days, or few sessions but at the end it will be more of an advantage for NZ than us. I would rather let Mushy and co. bat for hours and pile up some runs like they did in SL. This won't turn us into world beaters, but IMO its a step in the right direction given our situation.
__________________
"I was the happiest man in the world, happier than Bill Gates"- Tamim Iqbal
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old October 10, 2013, 09:06 PM
Max100 Max100 is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: May 12, 2012
Location: Hawaii
Favorite Player: miller,ryder,warner,nasir
Posts: 904

BCB will never learn, papon only care abt election, he is such a failure as an administrator. he couldnt even bring more than 2 test last year. i think lotus was even better than him
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old October 11, 2013, 02:40 AM
Tigers_eye's Avatar
Tigers_eye Tigers_eye is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: June 30, 2005
Location: Little Rock
Favorite Player: Viv Richards, Steve Waugh
Posts: 24,847

I like this pitch. This was dropped in.
__________________
The Weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the Strong." - Ghandi.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old October 11, 2013, 03:30 AM
adamnsu adamnsu is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: December 12, 2005
Posts: 1,873

First of all we are a weak Test team. We cant afford to make a pitch which will helps the oppostion bowling.

Furthermore making bouncy pitches wont mean the likes of Australia or South Africa will be rushing to Bangladesh to play Test cricket.

Secondly if we start playing on bouncy pitches we are again back to square in learning to play on different conditions for a longer format of the game which we are alreading trying to learn.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old October 11, 2013, 06:52 AM
Naimul_Hd's Avatar
Naimul_Hd Naimul_Hd is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: October 18, 2008
Location: Global City of Australia
Favorite Player: Shakib, Mashrafe
Posts: 13,320

Quote:
Originally Posted by adamnsu
First of all we are a weak Test team. We cant afford to make a pitch which will helps the oppostion bowling.

Furthermore making bouncy pitches wont mean the likes of Australia or South Africa will be rushing to Bangladesh to play Test cricket.

Secondly if we start playing on bouncy pitches we are again back to square in learning to play on different conditions for a longer format of the game which we are alreading trying to learn.
We can't make bouncy pitch like Aus, SA all of sudden. In fact, our soil and weather is not suitable for such pitch. What I want is some 'pace' in the pitch. Ball should come to bat quicker than what we have seen in this match. Bowlers don't get any purchase from this pitch, not even spinner. Batsmen get so much time to adjust batting, if you bowl good length ball, batmen will hit through the wicket, if you bowl half pitch, the ball will disappear in the stands, only option then is to bowl fuller length then again you are asking for trouble. In this kind of low and slow pitch, bowlers best option to get wicket is to break batsmen's concentration and force him to make mistake.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old October 11, 2013, 07:29 AM
MHRAM MHRAM is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 30, 2013
Favorite Player: Tendo, Shakib, Gilchrist
Posts: 2,226

My point is, why are we not making pitches that should suit our players in tests, a format where we have struggled?

We can prepare bouncy/seam friendly conditions when we are a better team and when teams like SL and Pakistan come over
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old October 11, 2013, 08:59 AM
Rubu's Avatar
Rubu Rubu is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: February 15, 2004
Location: Michigan
Favorite Player: Tamim Iqbal
Posts: 8,198

Somehow I think this pitch is not as dead as you guys think it is. It is going to have plenty of life on 4th and 5th day. By the end of 3rd day, it already have good cracks.
__________________
সন্মানজনক পরাজয়ের চিন্তাটাই অসন্মানজনক
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old October 11, 2013, 11:58 AM
M.H.Rubel M.H.Rubel is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: August 18, 2009
Location: Dhaka
Favorite Player: All Bangladeshi players
Posts: 5,555

To me this wicket was not as bad as some guys are complaining. Our batting line up is very much vulnerable. So we always have to assist our batsman by wicket.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old October 11, 2013, 12:24 PM
ReZ_1's Avatar
ReZ_1 ReZ_1 is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: December 31, 2012
Location: Where heart touches mind
Favorite Player: Any leg break bowler
Posts: 1,717

we need batting practice/confidence. And i find no reason to think that our spinners are better than the spinners from any other top ranked teams especially from sub-continent. so it evens out
__________________
"- O Allah, forgive our sins and have mercy on us ! Help us through worst times and bless us with good ones, you are the ONE the only one to guide us to right path and save us from disasters.."
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old October 11, 2013, 02:35 PM
Night_wolf's Avatar
Night_wolf Night_wolf is offline
BC Staff
BC Bangladesh
 
Join Date: October 30, 2010
Location: City of Traffic Jam
Favorite Player: Gilly
Posts: 12,547

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubu
Somehow I think this pitch is not as dead as you guys think it is. It is going to have plenty of life on 4th and 5th day. By the end of 3rd day, it already have good cracks.
dont think so..i forgot the last time a pitch opened up in the 5th day in BD
__________________
Associates whom Bangladesh has lost to: 1.Kenya 2.Canada 3.Ireland 4.Netherlands 5. Scotland 6. Afganistan 7. Hongkong
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old October 11, 2013, 08:36 PM
Tigers_eye's Avatar
Tigers_eye Tigers_eye is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: June 30, 2005
Location: Little Rock
Favorite Player: Viv Richards, Steve Waugh
Posts: 24,847

People if this test ends up in a draw who is benefited the most?
New Zealand 8th ranked with points of 79.
BD 10th ranked with points of 10.

Have anyone gone through the predictor simulation?

Stop this madness. I say madness because you do not know what is good for you Short-term and Long-term?
__________________
The Weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the Strong." - Ghandi.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old October 12, 2013, 04:53 AM
Rifat_02's Avatar
Rifat_02 Rifat_02 is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: May 18, 2007
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Favorite Player: Nasir,Anamu,Shamsu,Taskin
Posts: 699

Do the curators in this country even know how to prepare spinning pitches? I don't remember when was the last time I saw a square turning pitch in Bangladesh where all the scores were below 300.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old October 12, 2013, 05:00 AM
Naimul_Hd's Avatar
Naimul_Hd Naimul_Hd is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: October 18, 2008
Location: Global City of Australia
Favorite Player: Shakib, Mashrafe
Posts: 13,320

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
People if this test ends up in a draw who is benefited the most?
New Zealand 8th ranked with points of 79.
BD 10th ranked with points of 10.

Have anyone gone through the predictor simulation?

Stop this madness. I say madness because you do not know what is good for you Short-term and Long-term?
Sorry bhai, I did not get you. Are you referring that playing on this slow and low pitch will help us in the long run ?
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old October 12, 2013, 05:04 AM
Tiger Manc's Avatar
Tiger Manc Tiger Manc is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: November 2, 2009
Favorite Player: Suhrawadi Shuvo
Posts: 4,452

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
People if this test ends up in a draw who is benefited the most?
New Zealand 8th ranked with points of 79.
BD 10th ranked with points of 10.

Have anyone gone through the predictor simulation?

Stop this madness. I say madness because you do not know what is good for you Short-term and Long-term?
if the series is drawn 0-0 then NZ will lose 4 points and we'll gain 8.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old October 12, 2013, 05:15 AM
Spitfire_x86's Avatar
Spitfire_x86 Spitfire_x86 is offline
Cricket Legend
Fantasy Winner: BD v NZ 2008
 
Join Date: December 17, 2004
Location: Dhaka
Posts: 7,650

Quote:
Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
Sorry bhai, I did not get you. Are you referring that playing on this slow and low pitch will help us in the long run ?
It will help us in both short and long term.

Short term gain: Draw > 4th day defeat
Long term gain: Points in ICC test ranking
__________________
sig?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket