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Old November 18, 2012, 06:49 AM
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Lower order is the proper position for Ryad. He doesn't deserve the place in middle order. So I think that there is no argument about his current position.
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Old November 18, 2012, 09:21 AM
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yeah if we have people like u with this kinda mentity that riad shouldn't be in the team even tho he proved his capabilities tons of time than surely bangladesh can never make progress , people like u were chanting before to drop tamim iqbal now going for riad
He proved his capabilities tons of time?

And excuse me, Mr zahidnyc! I have never questioned Tamim's spot in any format. You have been mistaken. Sorry.
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Old November 18, 2012, 09:37 AM
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We better need to ask what is he doing to overcome the fear against fast bowling and bouncer?
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Old November 18, 2012, 09:45 AM
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We better need to ask what is he doing to overcome the fear against fast bowling and bouncer?
What about his fear when fielding?
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Old November 18, 2012, 06:38 PM
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Riyad should be in danger of losing his spot in the team, forget about getting a batting promotion. He hasn't done anything to warrant batting higher up than his current spot. Everyone batting ahead of him, except Junaid and Nafees, deserve to bat ahead of him cuz they have the ability to crack hundreds against any team, anywhere.
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Old November 18, 2012, 07:46 PM
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problem is riyad doesn't like batting up the order and he hasn't done so well when he's been given the chance, we can't keep batting a batsman at #8 forever and the only open spots are #2 and #3.
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Old November 18, 2012, 07:54 PM
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We are not fielding a balanced side because of this perpetual need for an extra batsman. We need specialist bowlers coming in at 8,9,10 and 11. What good did having the 8th batsman do to our chances of winning? In my opinion having somebody like Mahmudullah coming at 8 reinforces the belief that the top order will almost always fail. We have to fix no. 2 and 3 positions so that we don't need the batsman coming so low.
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Old November 18, 2012, 08:00 PM
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Don't want to jeopardize Naeem's confidence but he is in good form and seems to be in the 'zone' most of time. Can they ask him to bat at no. 3 and move Riyad to 4 (i.e. if we play with 7 specialist batsmen)? With Naeem's discipline, technique and temperament, it would not be the worst thing (since the next test is in Khulna). A top order consisting of Nafees and Junaid does not make a lot of sense!

Also, guys, check out the first class batting average of some of the current players. If you can't bat for a longer period of time in domestic games, how can you do that consistently in tests?

Case in point (as of 19/11/12):

Junaid Siddique - FC Average 28.29, Test Average 26.18

Mohammad Ashraful - FC Average 28.37, Test Average 22.60

Mushfiqur Rahim - FC Average 29.44, Test Average 29.03

Raqibul Hasan - FC Average 28.75, Test Average 19.76

Imrul Kayes - FC Average 26.37, Test Average 17.15

Now compare them with:

Naeem Islam - FC Average 41.07, Test Average 36.18

Shakib Al Hasan - FC Average 34.50, Test Average 35.12

Tamim Iqbal - FC Average 44.13, Test Average 38.02

Nasir Hossain - FC Average 34.40, Test Average 36.22

Mahmudullah Riyad - FC Average 33.40, Test Average 31.45
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Old November 19, 2012, 02:27 AM
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Don't want to jeopardize Naeem's confidence but he is in good form and seems to be in the 'zone' most of time. Can they ask him to bat at no. 3 and move Riyad to 4 (i.e. if we play with 7 specialist batsmen)? With Naeem's discipline, technique and temperament, it would not be the worst thing (since the next test is in Khulna). A top order consisting of Nafees and Junaid does not make a lot of sense!

Also, guys, check out the first class batting average of some of the current players. If you can't bat for a longer period of time in domestic games, how can you do that consistently in tests?

Case in point (as of 19/11/12):

Junaid Siddique - FC Average 28.29, Test Average 26.18

Mohammad Ashraful - FC Average 28.37, Test Average 22.60

Mushfiqur Rahim - FC Average 29.44, Test Average 29.03

Raqibul Hasan - FC Average 28.75, Test Average 19.76

Imrul Kayes - FC Average 26.37, Test Average 17.15

Now compare them with:

Naeem Islam - FC Average 41.07, Test Average 36.18

Shakib Al Hasan - FC Average 34.50, Test Average 35.12

Tamim Iqbal - FC Average 44.13, Test Average 38.02

Nasir Hossain - FC Average 34.40, Test Average 36.22

Mahmudullah Riyad - FC Average 33.40, Test Average 31.45


also he is very effective off spin bowler for bangladesh , he got 24 wickets in 13 test match, he couldn't ball that much in this test bcz of gazi , but surely he did great job in the past and he proved his capabilities as a bowler , i mean all together he is great asset that bangladesh has at this moment
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Old November 21, 2012, 04:06 AM
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mahmuduallah is the only bangladesh who seems look like knows what is test match , putting him number 8 is just too silly and it wil never help bangladesh , it just waste of his talent , he look like the best test batsman bnagladesh have currently rite now , putting him number it just not giving him opportunity to do better for bangladesh
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Old November 21, 2012, 07:06 AM
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Riyad at number 8 in tests is acceptable provided he plays with tailenders like Gazza and Raju, both with genuine batting ability.
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Old November 21, 2012, 07:11 AM
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naeem & mullah should bat at #3 & #4. Nasir should come before Mushirrifiq.
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Old November 21, 2012, 07:17 AM
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Who do you want to play at 8?
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Old November 21, 2012, 07:18 AM
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People are forgetting one thing: Riyad seems to be magic batting with rank tailenders. Remember the Shafiul knock to beat England? He had a similar but less spectacular job in a match v ZIM as well. And this this current p'ship of 172 not out that trumps them all. Keep him at eight, he's not doing badly, not harming his average, and to be honest doesn't have the umph to be a top order batsman. He is our crisis manager.
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Old November 21, 2012, 07:21 AM
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Looks like number 8 brings out the best from Riyad. He never took off when he was promoted higher up the order. I would keep him at number 8 as long as he is scoring runs from this position. A 50 from number 8 is much more valuable than a 15 at number 4.
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Old November 21, 2012, 07:37 AM
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Riyad feels right at home at 8. No need to give him responsibility at 3, it could backfire.
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Old November 21, 2012, 07:42 AM
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^He's also afraid to bat up the order, according to many reports over the years.
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Old November 21, 2012, 07:42 AM
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Who do you want to play at 8?
1 of the 4 bowler. We shouldn't play with 3 bowlers in test match
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Old November 21, 2012, 07:54 AM
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I think batting under pressure, with tail-enders that requires guarding your shots, bring the best out of Riyad. He has been very effective in this role and as said before, somehow knows how to get the best out of his partner as well.

Despite his lack of form in the NCL this season, out of the 3 test innings so far, he scored half century in 2 and was doing very well on the other innings until he ran out of partner and decided to have a big heave.
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Old November 21, 2012, 08:00 AM
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But we may get better service from him in the middle order. we should be looking at solid middle order instead of expecting something from tail ender. We need to shape up the team rather than see off a series. btw he has scored runs in #4 & #5.
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Old November 21, 2012, 08:24 AM
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selectors play gamble with no 2,3 position..and all other spots are already taken..you can only switch him with Nasir...So i guess being at no 8, he is doing great job
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Old November 21, 2012, 08:32 AM
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selectors play gamble with no 2,3 position..and all other spots are already taken..you can only switch him with Nasir...So i guess being at no 8, he is doing great job
If we alread have 2 batsmen are performing more frequently than others then i dont see any reason for gambling with #3. Naeem seems to has temperament to bat at #3 and Riyad and Naseer can easily fill the #4 & #5.
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Old November 21, 2012, 03:23 PM
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I will keep him the place where he bats, may be replacement for sn or junaid is anamul , mominul , jahurul or mehrab jr. Sn, najim, junaed lost all chances
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Old November 21, 2012, 03:25 PM
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All the newcomers are rocking. First sohag gazi, now abul.

Even come back guy edwards did well too
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Old November 21, 2012, 03:31 PM
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this is beyond ridiculousness that people saying he should stay at 8; he's one of the most sensible batsmen in the team who keeps it calm, he should definitely come at middle order.
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