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Old March 27, 2016, 10:21 AM
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Default Mustafizur's IPL Watch

WC is over for us and no series either for next couple of months so only cricket we have is to watch IPL mainly coz of Musta.

Sunriser's first game is again RCB containing Gayler, ABDV and Kohli. Pretty confident, sunriser's will pick Musta ahead of other overseas steamers they have as the pitches will suit Musta more than them. Also, has the advantage of performing in the WC

Hopefully. Musta will learn the art of swing from Nehra and Boult . This will benefit him in Test cricket for sure.

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- 12th April vs RCB
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- 23rd April vs Punjab

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Come on Musta-Fizz!!! Show you magic
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Old March 27, 2016, 10:24 AM
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Good thread Nadim bro.

Let's see how the Prince of Mirpur performs.
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Old March 27, 2016, 10:24 AM
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Shouldn't play it. Ipl is a nightmare for bowlers and it destroyed the career of quite a few young bowlers In the past.
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Old March 27, 2016, 10:35 AM
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Shouldn't play it. Ipl is a nightmare for bowlers and it destroyed the career of quite a few young bowlers In the past.
Musta is un destroyable
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Old March 27, 2016, 01:04 PM
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after tamsha we'll see Musha!
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Old March 27, 2016, 01:15 PM
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At auction time I thought he's going to seat out in first few. But now it's almost obvious that he's playing. That's the value of performing at big stage!
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Old March 27, 2016, 02:35 PM
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Shouldn't play it. Ipl is a nightmare for bowlers and it destroyed the career of quite a few young bowlers In the past.
Couldn't agree more. BCB shouldn't let Fizz play IPL. He should be preserved for the national duty.
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Old March 27, 2016, 02:52 PM
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Couldn't agree more. BCB shouldn't let Fizz play IPL. He should be preserved for the national duty.
Depends, experience can be good for him, all in all if he plays about half of the matches it'll be a positive move, am hoping Boult is selected ahead of him half the time.
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Old March 27, 2016, 02:54 PM
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Shouldn't play it. Ipl is a nightmare for bowlers and it destroyed the career of quite a few young bowlers In the past.
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Couldn't agree more. BCB shouldn't let Fizz play IPL. He should be preserved for the national duty.
Agree. Nothing can be done about it though.
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Old March 27, 2016, 03:11 PM
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Agree. Nothing can be done about it though.
Well, I hope BCB doesnt let BD players participate in IPL (or BCCI bans them) since anyway you arent too happy with your star bowler featuring in a stupid Indian tournament
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Old March 27, 2016, 03:30 PM
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Well, I hope BCB doesnt let BD players participate in IPL (or BCCI bans them) since anyway you arent too happy with your star bowler featuring in a stupid Indian tournament
Did you get out of the wrong side of bed this morning be_friend_13? Go get some fresh air dude, really you need some.

Btw, it's good to see you around, but what's up with all the poking. I'm a little matured since last ODI WC, it's time that you show some maturity buddy. Anyway, like I said it's good to have you around. Post more often, and not just the banter type.

And, yes, I'm reiterating my point. I don't want to see our Mustafiz playing in your overrated IPL tournament. But fortunately or unfortunately, I have no saying in it.
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Old March 27, 2016, 03:34 PM
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I was going to open a thread on fiz IPL journey. Beat me to it.

Well. I can't wait to see him at it, it will be great experience for him. . Lots of big names playing, sharing dreasing room, seeing how other quality t20 players from around the world go-on-about t20, can learn alot.
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Old March 27, 2016, 07:08 PM
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Did you get out of the wrong side of bed this morning be_friend_13? Go get some fresh air dude, really you need some.

Btw, it's good to see you around, but what's up with all the poking. I'm a little matured since last ODI WC, it's time that you show some maturity buddy. Anyway, like I said it's good to have you around. Post more often, and not just the banter type.

And, yes, I'm reiterating my point. I don't want to see our Mustafiz playing in your overrated IPL tournament. But fortunately or unfortunately, I have no saying in it.
I am surprised that you are surprised that I sound bitter, my friend. Look around you, I joined this forum as a 14 year old boy back in 2004 or so because I really wanted BD to do well after that 2004 game that you guys won against us, your first win against the Indians in LOI that made me register here that made a lot of Indians like myself sit up and take notice. I think it was also Mashrafe's debut game or something. Obviously, things don't seem that awesome anymore between us and I don't see that changing anytime soon, sorry for digressing. But I hope we dont play BD other than in world events in a bilateral series coz its not worth it.
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Old March 27, 2016, 09:18 PM
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Well, I hope BCB doesnt let BD players participate in IPL (or BCCI bans them) since anyway you arent too happy with your star bowler featuring in a stupid Indian tournament
You do sound bitter all the time. Always picking on one random comment and then generalize and say all BD fans are immature. You don't read into the context..

Here what Miraz bhai and others said was that Mustafiz is still very young. In case you haven't noticed, he missed latter half of Asia cup and the start of WC. So we are just concerned that IPL or any other league where there back to back matches and not enough days in between might be tough for a young guy.

The dig was not directed towards IPL or India. But if you are that sensitive (the same adjective that you have reserved for BD fans) than I have nothing to say.

But why argue with someone who somewhere said Pakistanis are gracious losers. Yea so gracious that even after almost 20 years they think our 99 WC win was fixed. That legends like Wasim and Inzi took money to lose to BD. Yes and the same pak that said BD and India match few days ago was fixed and we lost to make sure Pak are knocked out of WC.

Seriously dude your logic is just...mindblowing
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Old March 27, 2016, 09:28 PM
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Alternatively, i think IPL is going to do loads of good to mustafizur. He will get to be with lot of international players and can pick up tonnes from them. Ofcourse, he can shine an he will be well rounde in LOI cricket atleast.

Its just my opinion, hate towards BCCI should not block some of the fellow poster's hindsight.

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Old March 27, 2016, 09:40 PM
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Alternatively, i think IPL is going to do loads of good to mustafizur. He will get to be with lot of international players and can pick up tonnes from them. Ofcourse, he can shine an he will be well rounde in LOI cricket atleast.

Its just my opinion, hate towards BCCI should not block some of the fellow poster's hindsight.

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That's a good observation. It all depends on Fiz and if he can absorb the pressure and handle the intensity. That's why we are little concerned.

There is no hate for IPL or BCCI in this case. Shakib has been playing in IPL for years and none of us ever complained. If anything, me and many other Bangladeshis watch IPL only because of Shakib.
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Old March 27, 2016, 10:12 PM
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It would be a crime to deprive the IPL of a talent like Fizz, but I wonder if it might be to soon to expose him to a foreign league. He's only 20. I wonder if that makes him the youngest overseas recruit in the IPL ever. Is he mentally ready to withstand the rigours of such a competitive league? I'm not so sure.
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Old March 27, 2016, 10:52 PM
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Well I hope by playing in IPL we are not exposing him to Indians picking his cutters and slower ones with ease. I believe Faulkner was difficult to handle in the first two editions of IPL but not anymore
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Old March 27, 2016, 11:22 PM
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I am surprised that you are surprised that I sound bitter, my friend. Look around you, I joined this forum as a 14 year old boy back in 2004 or so because I really wanted BD to do well after that 2004 game that you guys won against us, your first win against the Indians in LOI that made me register here that made a lot of Indians like myself sit up and take notice. I think it was also Mashrafe's debut game or something. Obviously, things don't seem that awesome anymore between us and I don't see that changing anytime soon, sorry for digressing. But I hope we dont play BD other than in world events in a bilateral series coz its not worth it.
So, at 14 (in 2004) you became a lover boy of BD cricket. At age 25/26 (2016), are you breaking up with BD cricket? Or did you just break up already? Btw, what a coincidence. Mashrafe is also in the twilight years of his career.

I see..that's why all those emotional c**p and bitterness and blaming others. Well...........



and be a happy person again.

We've Mustafiz now, you can fall in love with BD cricket all over again.
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Old March 27, 2016, 11:29 PM
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It would be a crime to deprive the IPL of a talent like Fizz, but I wonder if it might be to soon to expose him to a foreign league. He's only 20. I wonder if that makes him the youngest overseas recruit in the IPL ever. Is he mentally ready to withstand the rigours of such a competitive league? I'm not so sure.

This. I don't know why anyone say that we should not allow him to play the IPL. I think that would be a crime. We don't own him. I would love to see Bangladeshi player in IPL - a league where even some of the best in the world don't get a chance even though they want to play in it because of the quota system.

So to be playing in the 11 as a foreigner is the highest form of compliment. You ARE the best of the best.

Let them figure out Fizz, if he is not that good he will be figured out at some point. Time will tell but till then - let's enjoy and let the kid make some money.
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Old March 28, 2016, 01:27 AM
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i think Fizz is prodigy, ipl is a platform where he can learn more things from his international experienced team mates, will learn how to adopt pressure situation. we shouldn't be scared of whether he will exposed or not. if he is enough talented and smart and sharp there is nothing called exposed. if we are fear of exposal then he will be exposed anyday anywhere, no need to hide him. he should get more exposure to justify his talent be it ipl or bpl.
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Old March 28, 2016, 01:37 AM
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3 reasons why this may not be a great move for BD cricket:

1) Intensity of all these T20 competitions could take a physical toll on him. He's just started out, and already has had an injury that has kept him out for a month or so. Last thing we need is a serious injury setback.

2) By watching him upclose, practising against him in the nets, all these guys will pick up how to play him. At the end only good for Indian cricket. Shub made a nice point, Faulkner was very effective initially. Look how well the Indians have learned to play him.

3) One reason why Franchise T20 is detrimental to cricket, is it can mess up a cricketers priority. Shakib lost a bit of focus, and it has taken him quite a while to find his form back. In Sri Lanka, Lasith Malinga pulled out of the WC saying he isnt fit to play. But now he ll become fit all of a sudden before IPL.

On the positive side though, he might get access to top class coaches, seek advice of players. But did Shakib improve his skills by playing alongside big name players, or under top coaches? Debatable.

Pity BCB wont be able to say anything about it. But if we want Indian players to play in BPL they will shun us.
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Old March 28, 2016, 01:46 AM
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I just hope Sunrise does not put much pressure on him and Mustafiz have guts to say NO whenever he feels uncomfortable playing.
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Old March 28, 2016, 02:43 AM
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3 reasons why this may not be a great move for BD cricket:

1) Intensity of all these T20 competitions could take a physical toll on him. He's just started out, and already has had an injury that has kept him out for a month or so. Last thing we need is a serious injury setback.

2) By watching him upclose, practising against him in the nets, all these guys will pick up how to play him. At the end only good for Indian cricket. Shub made a nice point, Faulkner was very effective initially. Look how well the Indians have learned to play him.

3) One reason why Franchise T20 is detrimental to cricket, is it can mess up a cricketers priority. Shakib lost a bit of focus, and it has taken him quite a while to find his form back. In Sri Lanka, Lasith Malinga pulled out of the WC saying he isnt fit to play. But now he ll become fit all of a sudden before IPL.

On the positive side though, he might get access to top class coaches, seek advice of players. But did Shakib improve his skills by playing alongside big name players, or under top coaches? Debatable.

Pity BCB wont be able to say anything about it. But if we want Indian players to play in BPL they will shun us.
Another point you missed is lots of parties. Is he mature enough to handle all these!!!!
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Old March 28, 2016, 04:13 AM
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Mufi and Jeesh summed it up very well. My major concern is the physical toll. He is physically developing and I am not sure whether he would be able to stay fit when playing a busy IPL schedule with all those travels and nets included. Let him develop physically and he can play IPL and other franchise based T20 in 2-3 years time.

He is good and this is not going to be his only opportunity. We must protect him carefully for national duties.
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