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Old October 23, 2012, 11:43 AM
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If we end up taking 4 pacers then we'll end up selecting Shahadat, Rubel, Shafiul, and Nazmul. If we end up taking 3 pacers then we'll most probably leave out Nazmul.

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Old October 23, 2012, 11:55 AM
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The only way our pacers are going to end up with good figures in Tests is by continuously bowling down the leg side. Yeah baby, make the batsmen fight for their runs. Eibar dekhi kon Mokhles e Shafiul re thekay.
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Old October 23, 2012, 12:08 PM
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The only way our pacers are going to end up with good figures in Tests is by continuously bowling down the leg side. Yeah baby, make the batsmen fight for their runs. Eibar dekhi kon Mokhles e Shafiul re thekay.
kintu dada mushy to leg side er bowl gula laf diye pabe na, tokhon to pottek bole 4 hobe. Er cheye ja ache tai bhalo
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Old October 23, 2012, 12:10 PM
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All fielders go to leg slip. Amra body line bowling korte na pari, ontoto pacha line bowling to parbo. Razzak mamu parle Shafiul parbe na keno?
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Old October 23, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Tokhon to abar amago player ra ball er dige na taikiye pachar dike takiye thakbe...
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Old October 23, 2012, 12:31 PM
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Just building on Gowza's post. Dolar Mahmud has 142 FC wickets with average of 24. Kazi Kamrul Islam 120 FC wickets at an average of 26. Abu Jayed 49 wickets, average of 20. Mahbubul Alam 133 wickets, average of 25. Sajidul Islam 125 wickets, average of 28.

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Shahadat Hossain 147 wickets, average of 40. Rubel Hossain 41 wickets, average 61. Shafiul Islam 42 wickets, average of 37. Nazmul Hossain 71 wickets, average of 29. Of course the NT bowlers statistics will be a little messed up because they got a hammering in test cricket. But clearly the wickets are not there.

So once again how can we expect inexperienced FC cricketers to be successful in international cricket?
thanks for the status...as we all agree ...even these notable picnic cricket wicket takers dominating picnic season they fail to perform when it matters...how long have we been seeing this trend and why BCB not improving them I am not sure. Some BC members who are very knowledgable about pace bowling probably can shed some light on this but it's been alarming to see if only got One Mash in decade and Rubel is in the pipeline but there is nobody else improving besides just heard U19 bowler Taskin. What on earthe we are doing with the above mentioned pacers (Dolar, Kamrul, Abu Junayed, Subashish, Robin, I doubt Sajidul is still playing gota check it) and on the other hand (national team players like Shahadt, Nazmul, Shafiul). It's so sad to see Rasel went downhill along with Talha and other old recruits and probables for the national side. There has to be something wrong that we are doing to preserve our pace assets.
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Old October 23, 2012, 12:51 PM
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As expected spinners rule round 1. Shahadat was probably one of the better pace bowlers. Good to see Taskin amongst wickets
You also got to look at numbers of overs bowled by pacers compare to spinners.

Number of overs bowled by pacers in round 1(all 4 game):

435 overs, picked up 42 wicket. SO the SR is: (435*6)/42=62.1


Now lets have a look at numbers of overs bowled by spinners:

771 overs(nearly twice as many as pacers), picked up 74 wickets. So the SR is: (7771*6)/74=62.5


As you can see the number(SR) is very much identical. However pacers tend to give way more runs than spinners, hence they get to bowl less but we should also give fair amount chance to seamers too. Only that way our pipeline can get stronger and longer...
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Good stat Nadstar! Rabeed bbhai er job ta khaower ichchha achhey naki?
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Old October 23, 2012, 01:14 PM
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Guys, you will not build a pace pipeline until a coach helps build one, the bowlers are trained to bowl correctly and the mindset in developed to become quick.

Anything else is simply an excuse.

The truth is, a pacer hunt is just a hunt, not a development programme. A national coach only works with national players - and only when he has them to work with.

If you never work on improving an F1 car, you shouldn't wonder why it keeps losing races.
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Old October 24, 2012, 12:35 AM
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You also got to look at numbers of overs bowled by pacers compare to spinners.

Number of overs bowled by pacers in round 1(all 4 game):

435 overs, picked up 42 wicket. SO the SR is: (435*6)/42=62.1


Now lets have a look at numbers of overs bowled by spinners:

771 overs(nearly twice as many as pacers), picked up 74 wickets. So the SR is: (7771*6)/74=62.5


As you can see the number(SR) is very much identical. However pacers tend to give way more runs than spinners, hence they get to bowl less but we should also give fair amount chance to seamers too. Only that way our pipeline can get stronger and longer...
Well put. Thats where having seam friendly tracks will help. Captains must have the courage to give more overs to pace bowlers.
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Old October 24, 2012, 12:51 AM
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The only way our pacers are going to end up with good figures in Tests is by continuously bowling down the leg side. Yeah baby, make the batsmen fight for their runs. Eibar dekhi kon Mokhles e Shafiul re thekay.
chawata ektu beshi hoia gelo na dada? prottekta ball leg e rakhte hoile kotota control aar concentration dorkar chinta kore dekhsen?
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Old October 30, 2012, 10:45 PM
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It's time we develop Nazza! as our own Flintoff 2.0 (Zia is already our Flintoff 1.0). He has raw pace, wicked swing in every direction and is extremely accurate. Add tiger-like brutal aggression and predatory instincts tempered by genius level bowling intelligence, and you're looking at Tait-Holding-Steyn-Akram-McGrath rolled into a single, 5'-6" package. Just as footwork is irrelevant for Nazza! when he bats, height is irrelevant when he plays chin-music with his 155KMPH bouncers.
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We don't need pace pipeline. Shahadat ekai eksho

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Where is Al Amin Hossain? I don't see him playing for any team in the NCL. What happened to him?
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Old November 4, 2012, 06:59 AM
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He played first round for Khulna, bowled very overs and I think he may have taken a wicket or failed to take a wicket. Got benched this round, don't know why. Probably to make room for Shakib.
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He played first round for Khulna, bowled very overs and I think he may have taken a wicket or failed to take a wicket. Got benched this round, don't know why. Probably to make room for Shakib.
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What is pipeline? And, what is pace?
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Old November 7, 2012, 05:44 AM
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Did you have the chance to watch Al Amin Hossain in action in real life? What's your comment on him?
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Old November 13, 2012, 12:20 AM
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Anyone has any video of Al Amin bowling?
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wow Shamim's debut positive jinx???
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Old November 13, 2012, 12:40 AM
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I have been asking about Al Amin because of his FC stats. 40 wickets in 10 FC matches at an average of 16.95 and SR of 34.5 is very very good in any standard. Taking wickets is a habit and this boy also seems to have this habit just like Shohag Gazi.

He didn't play in last 2 rounds of NCL. Has he been with the team as a practice bowler? Or injured?
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Shahadat is among the worst test bowlers to play over 15/20 tests and Rubel is going to take over soon with his Bradmanesque average of 84 in 12 tests. These are beyond pathetic stats.
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ei hosse amader pace pipeline er obostha-
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Old November 13, 2012, 07:15 AM
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the squad for the 2nd test is not announced yet right?
Any chance of Taskin or Stepson to step in?
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Old November 13, 2012, 07:24 AM
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Taskin I reckon needs mire experience before being called up, nazmul, shafiul, al Amin, sajidul or Abu jayed should probably be called up.
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