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Old April 18, 2015, 02:32 AM
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He's a core player, I know sabbir has come around and made noise but we could and should fit both into the ODI team I don't see any need for a nasir vs sabbir kind of thing when there is enough room to get both into the top 7.
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Old April 18, 2015, 02:38 AM
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Brilliant outfielder! Covers up ground fast and takes exceptional catches. Him and Sabbir are the best fielders I've ever seen in Bangladesh cricket team.
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Old April 18, 2015, 03:20 AM
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Yes I guess Shabbir Has taken over his place with better performances, may be after another 2/3 series, if Sabbir keeps performing like now or better, Nasir will find it difficult to be in first 11 ...

Very nice situation for the team
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Old March 30, 2016, 02:58 AM
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It was a mystery why Nasir wasnt being selected, and how Suvagoto Hom was waltzed right into the team day after flying to India as a replacement player.

There was a story published by a paper, later denied by the Chief.

http://www.bdcricteam.com/2016/03/bc...es-everything/

Noticed Nasir is involved with a lot of non cricketing activities. While there is no harm in all that, could it be a reason why team mgt think he isnt as focused as he should be?

Heres his perfume launched last month http://www.thedailystar.net/city/%E2...aunched-660574

Time will tell the real reason behind his continuous snub.
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Old March 30, 2016, 08:06 AM
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Why Nasir is not playing in the national team?

It has nothing to do with the selectors. He is selected in the national team. It must be the coach (and the Captain) who is ignoring Nasir.


As an outsider, we see Nasir is ignored and we raise the question based on what we have seen him doing in the past in the national team. But we fail to notice that currently "Nasir" is not a "must have" in the team and for him to be noticed by the coach, he need to do the following:
- (A) Impress the coach in the practice with his hard work and dedication.
- (B) Recent outstanding performance (in this case BPL) outside national team.

We know he failed in (B). May be he failed in (A) also. There are too many things that happens outside the real game and behind our eyes that its impossible of us to understand the real issues with a player. We need to trust our coach and his judgment.

Having said that, its not end of the road for him. there is obviously opening for him in the team, and the selectors are not ignoring him.

May be all he need is to work a little bit harder to impress the coach. It can turn out to be a Win-Win proposition for both: him and the team in future.

So nasir should not give up hope... just work hard. We all know what he is capable of... he just need to work a little bit harder. he need to out perform Hom and Mithun in the practice... that's all.
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Old March 30, 2016, 12:03 PM
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Problem with Nadir is that he has not been performing as well. When is the last time he played something crucial?
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Old March 30, 2016, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jeesh
It was a mystery why Nasir wasnt being selected, and how Suvagoto Hom was waltzed right into the team day after flying to India as a replacement player.

There was a story published by a paper, later denied by the Chief.

http://www.bdcricteam.com/2016/03/bc...es-everything/

Noticed Nasir is involved with a lot of non cricketing activities. While there is no harm in all that, could it be a reason why team mgt think he isnt as focused as he should be?

Heres his perfume launched last month http://www.thedailystar.net/city/%E2...aunched-660574

Time will tell the real reason behind his continuous snub.
So, the media is making up quotes now? That's a new low. What publication was that?

It did seem strange that Papon would say things like that publicly. Sounded like something a khet paper would make up except it was in quotes.


All NT cricketers partake in ads and promotions. Shakib does more than anyone else. Why Nasir didn't play in the T20 WC isn't exactly the third secret of Fatima. He hasn't returned to his old batting form, and he was never a great T20 batsman anyway. He isn't a good T20 bowler either. He was in the team as a backup #7. Hom was picked over Nasir because Hom is a better T20 bowler. Nasir starts in ODIs because, surprisingly, he has been bowling well in ODIs.
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Old March 30, 2016, 02:34 PM
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So, the media is making up quotes now? That's a new low. What publication was that?

It did seem strange that Papon would say things like that publicly. Sounded like something a khet paper would make up except it was in quotes.


All NT cricketers partake in ads and promotions. Shakib does more than anyone else. Why Nasir didn't play in the T20 WC isn't exactly the third secret of Fatima. He hasn't returned to his old batting form, and he was never a great T20 batsman anyway. He isn't a good T20 bowler either. He was in the team as a backup #7. Hom was picked over Nasir because Hom is a better T20 bowler. Nasir starts in ODIs because, surprisingly, he has been bowling well in ODIs.
May be the tone of that article on Nasir and Papon's statement was little made up. But seeing this interview on tv it seems Papon clearly thinks Nasir has serious out field discipline issues..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HQn7TcfmOk
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Old March 30, 2016, 05:17 PM
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Tbh he didn't do anything to get a game. He is an average t20 player
However he played better in odi. Some how he lost his finsher mojjo.
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Old March 30, 2016, 05:44 PM
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Tbh he didn't do anything to get a game. He is an average t20 player
However he played better in odi. Some how he lost his finsher mojjo.
There are very few players in the world who are good at odis but not at T20s. End of the day, was he better than at least one of the playing xi?
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Old March 30, 2016, 07:23 PM
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May be the tone of that article on Nasir and Papon's statement was little made up. But seeing this interview on tv it seems Papon clearly thinks Nasir has serious out field discipline issues..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HQn7TcfmOk
It wasn't a matter of tone. They manufactured quotes with Papon saying that Nasir doesn't even show up to practice, that he has 12 different phones and 80 female friends (lol).

According to that interview in the video, Nasir hasn't been putting in enough time/effort in the net with the bat. It's not the same as above, but it is an issue.

In any case, don't get all the noise about Nasir not getting play time in T20 games. He was never a good T20 player with the bat or the ball even when he was in form.

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There are very few players in the world who are good at odis but not at T20s. End of the day, was he better than at least one of the playing xi?
ODI and T20 are two different formats. Nasir, Soumya, Rubel, Mashrafe (captaincy aside) are all decent or better ODI players but are sub-par or poor in T20s. (Maybe Soumya will get better, and Mash earns his keep with his captaincy.) Mushfiq at his best was a WC ODI batsman but only an alright/OK T20 batsman.

That's more than "very few" in Bangladesh alone.

Lately, Nasir has been bowling well in ODIs. Well enough to bowl 8-10 overs. But he isn't a good death bowler which, as usual, means he isn't a good T20 bowler. (The same is true for Mashrafe except he's a bit better.)

And the answer to the last question is no unless you count Saqlain Sajib (LOL), who played one game.
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Old March 31, 2016, 12:02 AM
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The Nasir Hossain who played for Bangladesh around 2011-2013 was an oustanding player whose natural attributes would enable him to play in any format. He could suck up pressure and play those Michael Bevanish knocks, rescuing the team. He was never a big hitter, but at least he could work the ball around, rotate etc. He was also the best fielder in the side.

Sth happened somewhere down the line. Maybe he became more interested in the commercial aspects of cricket, or maybe he doesnt get along with the current coaching team.

Team management seriously needs to think about the next generation players- Nasir, Mominul, Anamul, Liton. They need to trained better, given more exposure. We musnt give up on them. Otherwise we ll face a vacuum situation like Sri Lanka, where we wont have any replacements when seniors move on.
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Old March 31, 2016, 12:03 AM
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If he is reluctant to hit the nets and misses practice, he should be nowhere in the team. As simple as that.
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Old March 31, 2016, 01:21 AM
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From what i ve heard about Hathurusingha, is that he is an absolute fusspot who is very finicky about the tiniest details. He knows everything that happens as if he has drones operating, you just cant get away from him. He is not a harsh/confrontational person, but he is very direct/candid individual, once ur in his bad books u wont find it easy.

Sohag Gazi bore witness to this. And i just wonder whether Nasir is also facing the consequences of not working hard enough.
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Old March 31, 2016, 01:40 AM
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From what i ve heard about Hathurusingha, is that he is an absolute fusspot who is very finicky about the tiniest details. He knows everything that happens as if he has drones operating, you just cant get away from him. He is not a harsh/confrontational person, but he is very direct/candid individual, once ur in his bad books u wont find it easy.

Sohag Gazi bore witness to this. And i just wonder whether Nasir is also facing the consequences of not working hard enough.
good if this is the case. these slackers need the boot
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Old March 31, 2016, 05:33 AM
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I read on PAlo that Hathure was not so interested to have Nasir in WC squad but the selectors insisted.
The selectors are not happy that Nas was dropped afyer one game and not give any more matches.

What I feel is that the coach does not hv faith in Nasir.
Now I know Nasir has not done enough in recent times but the coach/ team mngmnt need to persist with him and back him or show faith in him , we can not lose Nasir.
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Old March 31, 2016, 05:44 AM
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Could have given him one more game. But if he doesnt want Nasir, i am sure the boss has his reasons.
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Old March 31, 2016, 08:21 AM
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Nasir is crap no other reason to why he isn't playing.
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Old March 31, 2016, 09:58 AM
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Here is the thing...
A good cricketer needs to be hungry for success. Nasir does not look hungry.
Mush is out of form too, but he is always at the nets, even during optional practise sessions, he would be the first one in the field. Wicketkeeping is a tough job but his hard work even after a tough day shows he is hungry.

Nasir never looked in form for a long time now. He is even missing catches which is unlike him. He really needs to work hard at the nets now instead of taking a vacation like the rest of the team.
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Old March 31, 2016, 10:23 AM
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At least he cud hv scored 1 run! Which was all we needed
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Old March 31, 2016, 01:03 PM
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The Nasir Hossain who played for Bangladesh around 2011-2013 was an oustanding player whose natural attributes would enable him to play in any format.
Nasir's average is 18.5 with a SR of 113.5 from 31 T20I's. I believe most of those 31 games were played around the 2011-2013 period.

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He was never a big hitter, but at least he could work the ball around, rotate etc. He was also the best fielder in the side.
You don't have to be a big-hitter to be a good T20 batsman, but you've to be able to stroke-play especially if you're a finisher. The in-form Nasir was great in working the ball around and picking up quick singles and two's which made him a good finisher in ODIs esp while chasing, but it didn't make him a good T20 player.

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If he is reluctant to hit the nets and misses practice, he should be nowhere in the team. As simple as that.
The part about Nasir not showing up to training was made up. But Papon said he doesn't spend time in the nets with the bat like every other batsman does.

Even if he thinks of himself as a bowling AR now, he still should be hitting the nets with the bat. If he doesn't put in more effort in the future, he definitely should be off the T20 squad at least. I don't see any need for him in the T20 squad.

He's a decent ODI player who has been bowling well in that format lately, but if he doesn't show more professionalism and put in the work, his place in the ODI side shouldn't be guaranteed either.

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Sohag Gazi bore witness to this. And i just wonder whether Nasir is also facing the consequences of not working hard enough.
Sohag Gazi doesn't even perform at the domestic level these days. He's not even average, he's a below-average player.
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