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Old March 23, 2015, 05:27 AM
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Old March 23, 2015, 05:41 AM
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Old March 23, 2015, 07:39 AM
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Gotta love the ICC.

Ranked 11th in ODI's as we get no games, yet even though we're ranked 9th in t20 we have to qualify and two full members including one in 13th get automatic qualification.

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Old March 23, 2015, 07:58 AM
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Lol at saeed ajmal still being no 1 bowler
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Old March 23, 2015, 08:05 AM
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One would have thought with the best batting lineup and limitedly strong bowling line up Ind would be a top Test side. They are almost invincible at home. How come they are ranked #7?
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Old March 23, 2015, 08:08 AM
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Ranked 11th in ODI's as we get no games, yet even though we're ranked 9th in t20 we have to qualify and two full members including one in 13th get automatic qualification.
That's how you get games.
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Truly, 14 teams should be in World cups ODIs and T20. 4 teams in test.
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Old March 23, 2015, 08:22 AM
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Gotta love the ICC.

Ranked 11th in ODI's as we get no games, yet even though we're ranked 9th in t20 we have to qualify and two full members including one in 13th get automatic qualification.

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ICC is pathetic.

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Old March 23, 2015, 08:58 AM
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so ratings = matches/points . we need to catch WI soon.
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Old March 23, 2015, 09:08 AM
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One would have thought with the best batting lineup and limitedly strong bowling line up Ind would be a top Test side. They are almost invincible at home. How come they are ranked #7?
fragile and vulnerable when the ball moves a little bit. India has no hope at Test.
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Old March 23, 2015, 09:40 AM
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I am sorry bangladesh qualified for the t20 world cup,but generally they suck at T20 dunno how to play it,better one day team than T20 team,they need to play it more,if not internationally domestically.
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Old March 23, 2015, 09:49 AM
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...India has no hope at Test.
I disagree. They have a better structure. They have all these bowling academies. On top of that they have the financial resources to instill pitches/conditions to replicate conditions abroad. With one BKSP we are producing these kids. Imagine the day when we will have a BKSP on each division.

They are few years removed from #1 ranking. The greats are being replaced. It will take time. Just like the Aussies have done well in replacing McGrath and Co. Bailey would do just fine after Clarke.
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Old March 23, 2015, 10:57 AM
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Default A blast from the past

ICC ODI rankings:

27 September 2006

7. WI - 102
8. Eng - 99
9. Zim - 33
10. BD - 33.

28 July 2009

8. WI - 87
9. BD - 50
10. Ire - 26
11. Zim - 23.

Source: Old BC threads.
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Old March 23, 2015, 11:02 AM
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So the difference between us and big 8 in 2006 was 66 points. In 2009, in became 27. Currently (2015) it is 16.
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Old March 23, 2015, 11:04 AM
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In next 4 series at home we win 4/5 games, we would be somewhere around 84-85 range.
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Old March 23, 2015, 11:18 AM
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So the difference between us and big 8 in 2006 was 66 points. In 2009, in became 27. Currently (2015) it is 16.
We haven't improved. Afghan pacers will smash us on Aussie pitches in the world cup. Forget about England, even Scotland will crush us.

Oh woops...
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Old March 23, 2015, 11:19 AM
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We haven't improved. Afghan pacers will smash us on Aussie pitches in the world cup. Forget about England, even Scotland will crush us.

Oh woops...
tsk tsk tsk. They are just kids. Leave them alone.
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Old March 23, 2015, 11:24 AM
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Gotta love the ICC.

Ranked 11th in ODI's as we get no games, yet even though we're ranked 9th in t20 we have to qualify and two full members including one in 13th get automatic qualification.

Meritocracy

T20 rankings has no influence on ODI cricket. Last time I checked, Bangladesh and zimbro had to qualify for t20 world cup 2014 so how is it unfair?
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Old March 23, 2015, 11:50 AM
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We haven't improved. Afghan pacers will smash us on Aussie pitches in the world cup. Forget about England, even Scotland will crush us.

Oh woops...
I must say I had similar thoughts.......thank god our team performed and saved the blushes. Credit should be given to the batters for coping with the condition. But they have definitely been helped by the drop in pitches which have been fairly true and without much sideway movement (bar NZ game).
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Sir Donal,
Let me remind you that Bangladesh did not get automatic qualification in T20 WC for which Bnagladesh was the HOST, they had to qualify by playing against Nepal, HongKong, and Afghanistan, yes its funny that host nation had to qualify for the tournament (only in Cricket it is possible).

Rankings are different for each format (Test, ODI, T20), and they are being used accordingly.

If you get to play T20 WC, ICC will only look your T20 ranking, not ODI ranking.

We may have to play qualifying stage along with top two or four associate teams for next CWC if we don't climb to 8!


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Ranked 11th in ODI's as we get no games, yet even though we're ranked 9th in t20 we have to qualify and two full members including one in 13th get automatic qualification.

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Old March 23, 2015, 02:05 PM
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Lookikg at the team rankings it just shows how important it is to have a strong bowling attack to top in Tests.
And how important batting is in shorter formats.
Its surprising that Aus and SA are not so good in T20s .
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Old March 23, 2015, 02:56 PM
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Point is Bangladesh and Zimbabwe dont have to play a totally pointless t20 qualifier in May whereas we do.

Dont even get me started on the stupidity of the preliminary round/qualifier 2.0 either
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Point is Bangladesh and Zimbabwe dont have to play a totally pointless t20 qualifier in May whereas we do.

Dont even get me started on the stupidity of the preliminary round/qualifier 2.0 either
Yes that's true. But it does give much needed practice. In a way I'll be sad if we jump to 8th and don't play in the 2018 world cup qualifier because that's 5-6 ODIs less we get to play. All matches we'd have won.
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Old March 23, 2015, 03:09 PM
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Yes that's true. But it does give much needed practice. In a way I'll be sad if we jump to 8th and don't play in the 2018 world cup qualifier because that's 5-6 ODIs less we get to play. All matches we'd have won.
Humble as always

In all seriousness though its just so frustrating.

People moan about the ODI WC and say the t20 one should be 16 teams or what not.

What they dont realise is the t20 world cup is pretty much a 10 team world cup, so the one world cup that everyone agrees should be expansive ends up being the only one that isnt
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Point is Bangladesh and Zimbabwe dont have to play a totally pointless t20 qualifier in May whereas we do.

Dont even get me started on the stupidity of the preliminary round/qualifier 2.0 either
You can rest assure. ICC will not go with 10 team WC in 2019. Almost everyone from the fans to the experts have spoken against it. They will have to expand. If not then IRE can be the 10th team and Zim will be the 11th.

But how does the rest of the year look for IRE? Are they scheduled to play any test team?
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Old March 23, 2015, 03:42 PM
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You can rest assure. ICC will not go with 10 team WC in 2019. Almost everyone from the fans to the experts have spoken against it. They will have to expand. If not then IRE can be the 10th team and Zim will be the 11th.

But how does the rest of the year look for IRE? Are they scheduled to play any test team?
We have an ODI vs what will likely be an England C team in a few weeks. (Bet any money they'll pick Rankin just to annoy us)

Then we co-host the t20 qualifiers with Scotland, followed by an ODI vs Australia.

I've heard on Irish websites that a 2 or 3 ODI series vs New Zealand is on the cards at the end of summer, followed by a tour of Zimbabwe who we'd then host in 2016. But I've heard these kinds of things before, I'll reserve judgement until something concrete is announced.

As for the 2019 WC, I genuinely believe the ICC will stick with it this time. Last time they backed down as having no qualifier was I'm pretty sure illegal, now that they've thrown 1 spot for grabs they'll stick it out I think.
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