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Old May 14, 2009, 04:23 AM
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So far so good. Here is the fixture.

Fri 5
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
1st Match, Group B - England v Netherlands
Lord's, London
Sat 6
10:00 local, 09:00 GMT
2nd Match, Group D - New Zealand v Scotland
Kennington Oval, London
Sat 6
14:00 local, 13:00 GMT
3rd Match, Group C - Australia v West Indies
Kennington Oval, London
Sat 6
18:00 local, 17:00 GMT
4th Match, Group A - Bangladesh v India
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
Sun 7
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT
5th Match, Group D - Scotland v South Africa
Kennington Oval, London
Sun 7
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
6th Match, Group B - England v Pakistan
Kennington Oval, London
Mon 8
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT
7th Match, Group A - Bangladesh v Ireland
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
Mon 8
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
8th Match, Group C - Australia v Sri Lanka
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
Tue 9
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT
9th Match, Group B - Netherlands v Pakistan
Lord's, London
Tue 9
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
10th Match, Group D - New Zealand v South Africa
Lord's, London
Wed 10
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT
11th Match, Group C - Sri Lanka v West Indies
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
Wed 10
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
12th Match, Group A - India v Ireland
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
Thu 11
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT
13th Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
D1 v A2
Thu 11
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
14th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
B2 v D2
Fri 12
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT
15th Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
Lord's, London
B1 v C2
Fri 12
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
16th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Lord's, London
A1 v C1
Sat 13
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT
17th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Kennington Oval, London
C1 v D2
Sat 13
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
18th Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
Kennington Oval, London
D1 v B1
Sun 14
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT
19th Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
Lord's, London
A2 v C2
Sun 14
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
20th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Lord's, London
A1 v B2
Mon 15
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT
21st Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Kennington Oval, London
B2 v C1
Mon 15
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
22nd Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
Kennington Oval, London
B1 v A2
Tue 16
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT
23rd Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
D1 v C2
Tue 16
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
24th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
D2 v A1
Thu 18
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
1st Semi-Final - TBC v TBC
Trent Bridge, Nottingham
Fri 19
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT
2nd Semi-Final - TBC v TBC
Kennington Oval, London
Sun 21
15:00 local, 14:00 GMT
Final - TBC v TBC
Lord's, London


As the timing is very suitable I would be able to make around 70% of the matches. My target is to get DirecTV and buy the package. I find Pakistan and RSA as the main contender this time. Recent result of our Natl. team with the A recruites does not put up a rosy picture and there would be a mere possibility for us this time to pass the group level hurdle.

In seaming conditions other than England, Aussies, Pakis, WIndies and Saffers, all should be putting up strong fight. But again Pakis lost to BD in a WC match here in England, that's how they script their cricket. It will largely depend on their team chemistry. A win in Sharjah does not really ensure the ticket for English ground. WIndies team with their intra island politics, board-player contradiction and latest gayle question is much divided like the Pakis to pull through anything. My best bet would be Saffeers although they are not my favourite. I have little hope for Srilankans, they might just end up as same as Us and recent performance of Dilshan and Malinga does not ensure a total team effort.

Another important matter is Umpiring. Hope this time the umpires would provide the audience a clean fair tournament to cherish.
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Old May 14, 2009, 04:26 AM
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Yeah, time will tell
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Old May 14, 2009, 04:31 AM
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Yeah, time will tell
Agree. Time speaks itself. But recent performance of Aussie players in T20 is not so great as of Saffers or Srilankans.
Indians are doing good on the surface as they are the chief in IPL. But Pakis with only one game against Aussies swept them up and showed that what they are capable of if they can unite and perform together. I am very much concerned about the unity of WIndies and the team morale of Our team.
I don't want another Irish pull off like in the ODI WC.
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SA, India and NZ are the favorites this time.
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Old May 14, 2009, 05:40 AM
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Lack of match practice will catch up with Pakistan. They haven't played as a team in a long time and though they can produce the goods once in a while, I don't think they can win consistently enough to win a WC.

India will benefit from the WC. We now know exactly which players are in form. And all the players are in good T20 mode.
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Timing is great. All the matches start at either evening or at midnight(ish) Dhaka time...
Looking forward to watch few more matches than expected.

Especially marking 21st June on my calender...getting myself prepared for Bangladesh V XyZ finals at Lords.
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Old May 14, 2009, 09:55 AM
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I think the team with the most batting firepower will win this tourney. Though Bangladesh is short in it, but they will have india at the start and with a bit adrenalin rush might just spark something. I would dearly love them to get into semis , and from there on who knows?
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i can only watch these (Bolded) matches in toronto.. i can watch some more but i dont wanna watch them..
Fri 5
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT (11:30 am toronto) 1st Match, Group B - England v Netherlands
Lord's, London
Sat 6
10:00 local, 09:00 GMT (4 am Toronto) 2nd Match, Group D - New Zealand v Scotland
Kennington Oval, London

Sat 6
14:00 local, 13:00 GMT (8 am toronto) 3rd Match, Group C - Australia v West Indies
Kennington Oval, London

Sat 6
18:00 local, 17:00 GMT (12 noon toronto) 4th Match, Group A - Bangladesh v India
Trent Bridge, Nottingham


Sun 7
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT (7:30 am toronto) 5th Match, Group D - Scotland v South Africa
Kennington Oval, London


Sun 7
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT (11:30 am toronto) 6th Match, Group B - England v Pakistan
Kennington Oval, London

Mon 8
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT (7:30 am toronto) 7th Match, Group A - Bangladesh v Ireland
Trent Bridge, Nottingham

Mon 8
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT (11:30 am toronto) 8th Match, Group C - Australia v Sri Lanka
Trent Bridge, Nottingham


Tue 9
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT (7:30 am toronto) 9th Match, Group B - Netherlands v Pakistan
Lord's, London

Tue 9
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT (11:30 am toronto) 10th Match, Group D - New Zealand v South Africa
Lord's, London


Wed 10
13:30 local, 12:30 GMT (7:30 am toronto) 11th Match, Group C - Sri Lanka v West Indies
Trent Bridge, Nottingham

Wed 10
17:30 local, 16:30 GMT (11:30 am toronto) 12th Match, Group A - India v Ireland
Trent Bridge, Nottingham

the rest depends.. this is to help myself and also others in toronto.. if i post this here, i will remember to watch the matches at the right time..
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I'd say India or SA are favorites. India obviously has sehway and all the IPLers (plus tendulkars playing really right now). SA has gibbs and devillers.

For BD to even stand a chance Ash to play his best. Praying that happens. This should be fun!
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I'd say India or SA are favorites. India obviously has sehway and all the IPLers (plus tendulkars playing really right now). SA has gibbs and devillers.

For BD to even stand a chance Ash to play his best. Praying that happens. This should be fun!
for BD, also include mash and sakib.. even though they are in good form most of the times..
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at this eary stage, form doesn't mean much. at the same time, "form" is a grossly exagerated concept to begin with.

i am actually more of the opinion that there is no such thing as form. thus the statement "form is temporary, class is permenent" should be "class is everything, form doesn't exist". of course this is barring the odd statistical anomaly which could indicate bad or good form.

but form could change in the same game. how many times have we seen sachin start off shakily only to score a maginificent century?

i think ash and mash will be ready to show something against india come june 6. at least mash will. he might break the 90 mph mark this time...
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Lack of match practice will catch up with Pakistan. They haven't played as a team in a long time and though they can produce the goods once in a while, I don't think they can win consistently enough to win a WC.

India will benefit from the WC. We now know exactly which players are in form. And all the players are in good T20 mode.
Unfortunately, you are going to start the WC with a loss and end up with the same...

Though, I would be cheering for India as my 2nd team...
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Especially marking 21st June on my calender...getting myself prepared for Bangladesh V XyZ finals at Lords.
Me and my beloved son Sreejon would fly to join you then...
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I hope our guys can finally sustain whatever success they may have and finally win 2 in a row against the BIG 8.
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at the same time, "form" is a grossly exagerated concept to begin with.
Form is definitely an exaggerated concept. It is something which sometimes makes a no-name player a hero which suffices with recent IPL performance of some irregular bowler like that Aussie player, cant rem his name on top of my head. [/quote]

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........"form is temporary, class is permenent" should be "class is everything, form doesn't exist". ....
I would stick with the first one. Form exists and till a player is not at the level of Murali, Warne or Sachin, Ponting, Hussey or any other greats the second statement does not really help a team much. The sudden pull off of a win by an underdog is generally a show of superb form which overrides the classier opponent.

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but form could change in the same game. how many times have we seen sachin start off shakily only to score a maginificent century?
Again it goes only for few greats like Lara or Sachin or come back bowlers like Akram.

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i think ash and mash will be ready to show something against india come june 6. at least mash will. he might break the 90 mph mark this time...
I do not know if he would break that 90 dream mark but definitely a combined effort of this two with proper team effort we can (not a surprise any more) win any time against any team. Cricket is 90% played by mind whichever format it is.
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The recent players that fall into form category rather than class category include, McCullum(flop in IPL), Kapali(ICL), Duminy, Bopara etc.

As it is widely accepted now that there is no auto-pilot even in T20 here is some apt remark from a recent article of Peter Rebouck,

"Cricket does not, cannot, work along those lines. The field dominates, days are spent in sporting conflict. Holding the team together, responding to a sudden attack, setback or opportunity, requires a hands-on approach. Captaincy by committee does not work. A hundred decisions are taken every hour. It's more like skippering a racing yacht, always watching for changes in the elements, always knowing that hesitation is fatal, judgment paramount, always looking far ahead and yet also remaining in the moment."
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India are the favourite to win. they have superb batsmen, e.g. sehwag, Ghambir, Raina, Rohit, Yusuf Pathan, Yuvraj and MS Dhoni and also very good bowlers, 7 good batsmen and 4 good bowlers will win them most of the games.

BD will have to beat Ireland to proceed to the next level, they should have been grouped with Scotland or Ireland.
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India in England? I don't know about that...

South Africa could take it this time. Or even Australia, although that's a bit more iffy.
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i think indians will be on form after most of there players had an outing in the IPL.

morever they have a settled squad where aus and Sa are in a rebuilding process.
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According to overall strength, India & South Africa are favorite. Australia yet to win this WC even if they are formally champion of the other two types of cricket.

But after everything I agree with others, Time will Say everything because the game is "Cricket".

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One thing for sure though is that one from India, SA and Aus won't make the semis as all three of the teams are in the same S8 group. So if I am to think logically then from our (S8) group NZ will finish first and Pakistan will finish second and from the other group SA will finish first and India will finish second. So in the semis NZ vs. India: India will come out on top and SA vs. Pak: SA will win. So the final should be India vs. SA...too close to call.
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Dont forget England and The Windians, they can also fire in 20/20 cricket, and who knows, one of the Associate teams e.g. Ireland may make it.The Brits, Ireland, NZ and SA all have bouncy wickets., and BD fails on bouncy wickets.

Many of the players of the IPL are playing for their respective teams, remember Ash and Mash had no real exposure, hope they do well in the practice games and get their form again. Heard that India has 2 practice games.
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West Indies may surprise SL or Australia and advance onto the second round. And I think they will be dangerous there because of there familiarity with the T20 format. But I don't see England advancing further than the S8s, I doubt they will win a single match in the S8s as they will have SA, India and Aus in their group. If Dirk Nannes and ton Doeschante have a good day then England might be knocked out from the first round.
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