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Old August 12, 2015, 04:10 AM
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Default ওরা এত বেয়াদব যে, কল্পনার বাইরে - Papon

বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট বোর্ড বিসিবি এর বর্তমান সভাপতি নাজমুল হাসান পাপন। তার সময়কালে বাংলাদেশ পেয়েছে অনেক বড় বড় সাফল্য। কিন্তু শুরুর দিকের পরিস্থিতি ছিল ভিন্ন। একের পর এক ব্যর্থতা আর শৃংখলাজনিত সমস্যা। যে কারণে শাস্তি পেতে হয়েছিলো এমনকি বিশ্বসেরা অলরাউণ্ডার সাকিব আল হাসানকেও। খবর কালের কন্ঠ'র।

পুরনো সেসব দিন মনে করে পাপন বলেন, 'কিছু খেলোয়াড় দেখলাম কাউকে পাত্তাই দেয় না। ওরা মনে করে, বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেটের ওরাই সব। ওরা এত বেয়াদব যে,কল্পনার বাইরে। ওদের হাবভাব অবিশ্বাস্য। ওরা ঠিকমতো প্র্যাকটিস করে না, নানা ছলছুতো দেখিয়ে ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেট খেলে না। দলের কেউ একজন উইকেট পাওয়ার পর সবাই উল্লাস করছে, তো একজন দেখি উল্টো দিকে হাঁটা দেয়। এসব তো টিম গেমে থাকলে চলে না।’

সাকিবকে শাস্তি দেওয়া প্রসঙ্গে পাপন বলেন, ‘আমি সাকিবকে টার্গেট করি একটা কারণে। ও দেশের সেরা খেলোয়াড়। ওকে সবাই অনুসরণ করে। সাকিবকে ঠিক করা গেলে পুরো দলকেই ঠিক করা যাবে বলে ভেবেছি। কিন্তু ওই তিন ম্যাচের নিষেধাজ্ঞা ওকে পরিবর্তন করতে পারেনি। পরে যখন আরো দু-একটা ঘটনা ঘটে গেল, ভাবলাম যে, আর উপায় নেই। এবার আমার আসল রূপ দেখাতেই হবে।’

পাপন আরো বলেন, ‘ওর মতো বিশ্বসেরা খেলোয়াড়কে কে বাদ দিতে চায়! কিন্তু সেটি আমি করতে বাধ্য হয়েছি। সাকিবের ভালোর জন্য, সামগ্রিক অর্থে বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেটের ভালোর জন্য। ও এবং আরো কয়েকজন ক্রিকেটারের এমন ভাব হয়ে গিয়েছিল যে,কোনো কিছু কেয়ার করে না। নিজেরটা নিয়ে থাকে। আমি সাকিবকে ডেকে বললাম, ‘তুমি কত ভালো খেলোয়াড়,তাতে আমার কিছু যায়-আসে না। বাংলাদেশকে জেতাতে পারো কি না,সেটি আমি দেখতে চাই। নইলে নিজে নিজে খেলে এক নম্বর অলরাউন্ডার হয়ে তোমার নাম বাড়াবে আর বাংলাদেশ দল হারতেই থাকবে,এটি আমি মেনে নেব না।'ওই সময় সবচেয়ে ভয়ংকর হয়ে উঠেছিল,সাকিবের দেখাদেখি আরো অনেকের আচরণও তেমন হয়ে যাচ্ছিল। আমি তাই একটি কড়া বার্তা দিতে চেয়েছি। সেটি কাজও করেছে।’

- See more at: http://www.thebengalitimes.com/sport....BjWwNgrW.dpuf

Very interesting read.
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Old August 12, 2015, 04:40 AM
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Some one translate please.
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Old August 12, 2015, 06:41 AM
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I dont know how much truth there is in Papon's words, however I do agree the kids that time were acting very unprofessionally & seemed quite indiscplined.

I think Haturi also was perfect in installing some discpline into the team ,which is why the current team is performing so well.
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Old August 12, 2015, 07:01 AM
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Until Siddons it was ok. The indiscipline kind of started from the stint of Stuart Law, and exacerbated during Shane Jurgensens era.

During Jurgensens time there was even an article published which said discipline was important in the days of Whatmore, Siddons because Bangladeshi cricket was in a nascent stage, and the players were young. But as the players matured, the approach should be more motivational/collaborative. But we saw with Jurgensen that doesnt work.

Fortunately Hathurusingha has brought back discipline. That doesnt mean he is blasting the players and taking them to task every session-like we saw with Zimbabwe's Mangongo. But he is holding the players accountable for their actions with necessary firmness. He doesnt sugar coat, is absolutely candid, and never shy about expressing what he thinks and has to say. No matter how big superstar a player becomes, one can be rest assured Chandika will keep the persons feet on the ground at all times.
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Kudos to Papon for being honest. At one point, Shakib and Tamim's ego had gone off the charts especially Shakib's. Papon did an excellent job to bring them back to earth and now they realise that Bangladesh team can survive just fine without them and that they are just another member of the team. The turning-point was when Hathurusinghe made it clear to Shakib that he wouldn't be putting up with his s***. And crucially BCB did the right thing and backed the coach. A lot of people were against the punishment doled out to Shakib at the time. Wonder what they have to say now? It just proves how important discipline is to a team's success.
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Old August 12, 2015, 07:36 AM
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Can't disagree with anything Papon says, he makes a lot of sense. Its true that some of the players lack discipline and seem uninterested in what is happening
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Akhon aishob faltu bishoi nia kotha bolar ki proyojon papon er
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Old August 12, 2015, 09:15 AM
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is this Kana-da based online news paper?

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Well they are directly attributing the quotes to Papon and not some anonymous source. But I would question why Papon would speak to some irrelevant newspaper rather than more established ones. However, it is a fact that what is being said in the report did actually go down. Some players were skipping training to shoot advertisements and using the lamest excuses to not participate in domestic tournaments. They have been knocked off their pedestal and it is undeniable that the team environment has improved as a result.
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Old August 12, 2015, 10:42 AM
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Well they are directly attributing the quotes to Papon and not some anonymous source. But I would question why Papon would speak to some irrelevant newspaper rather than more established ones. However, it is a fact that what is being said in the report did actually go down. Some players were skipping training to shoot advertisements and using the lamest excuses to not participate in domestic tournaments. They have been knocked off their pedestal and it is undeniable that the team environment has improved as a result.
I read almost same interview on kaler kontho too.
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Akhon aishob faltu bishoi nia kotha bolar ki proyojon papon er
How we could be sure that Papon said so?? The newspaper quoted Kaler Kontho for the news and there is no news about this in Kaler Kontho!

My guess is this is a year old news - the Bengali Times seems having trouble creating news, thus, the article...
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bang er chatar moto ei shob 'online' tabloid gula je ki shob news kore...obak lagey. Ki headline !! jotto shob faltu report !! 6 ke 9 banaite ustad !!
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Kudos to Papon for being honest. At one point, Shakib and Tamim's ego had gone off the charts especially Shakib's. Papon did an excellent job to bring them back to earth and now they realise that Bangladesh team can survive just fine without them and that they are just another member of the team. The turning-point was when Hathurusinghe made it clear to Shakib that he wouldn't be putting up with his s***. And crucially BCB did the right thing and backed the coach. A lot of people were against the punishment doled out to Shakib at the time. Wonder what they have to say now? It just proves how important discipline is to a team's success.
Ha ha why any one should think otherwise now?

Papon and BCB's act was unfair at that time - banning Shakib without no reason/s.
BCB has failed to show a valid cause to punish Shakib. Also, the timing was not right - you can NOT wait to let a player do more mistakes and then punish - you have to have a policy and procedure in place and judge the players accordingly.

Tiger's current success attributed from many reasons:

-> Mash, the inspiring cap
-> Some new talented players
-> Senior players' regain of their form
-> A great coaching team
-> Selectors and
-> BCB's positive attitude (which they have forced to learn from previous mistakes) etc.

I would say Papon is very lucky that team has bounced back from it's "dark" past with a great cap Mash and a wonderful coach Chandika and his team.
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How we could be sure that Papon said so?? The newspaper quoted Kaler Kontho for the news and there is no news about this in Kaler Kontho!

My guess is this is a year old news - the Bengali Times seems having trouble creating news, thus, the article...
kaler kontho link http://www.kalerkantho.com/print-edi...5/08/11/254863
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What is the point of this being published now
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There was no need to bring this up now. What's in the past is in the past. Our team has come over all that and are performing extremely well as a team. So Papon should've avoided these things if the interview was conducted recently.
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Kudos to Papon for being honest. At one point, Shakib and Tamim's ego had gone off the charts especially Shakib's. Papon did an excellent job to bring them back to earth and now they realise that Bangladesh team can survive just fine without them and that they are just another member of the team. The turning-point was when Hathurusinghe made it clear to Shakib that he wouldn't be putting up with his s***. And crucially BCB did the right thing and backed the coach. A lot of people were against the punishment doled out to Shakib at the time. Wonder what they have to say now? It just proves how important discipline is to a team's success.


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Ha ha why any one should think otherwise now?

Papon and BCB's act was unfair at that time - banning Shakib without no reason/s.
BCB has failed to show a valid cause to punish Shakib. Also, the timing was not right - you can NOT wait to let a player do more mistakes and then punish - you have to have a policy and procedure in place and judge the players accordingly.

Tiger's current success attributed from many reasons:

-> Mash, the inspiring cap
-> Some new talented players
-> Senior players' regain of their form
-> A great coaching team
-> Selectors and
-> BCB's positive attitude (which they have forced to learn from previous mistakes) etc.

I would say Papon is very lucky that team has bounced back from it's "dark" past with a great cap Mash and a wonderful coach Chandika and his team.
Couldn't agree more
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Ha ha why any one should think otherwise now?

Papon and BCB's act was unfair at that time - banning Shakib without no reason/s.
BCB has failed to show a valid cause to punish Shakib. Also, the timing was not right - you can NOT wait to let a player do more mistakes and then punish - you have to have a policy and procedure in place and judge the players accordingly.

Tiger's current success attributed from many reasons:

-> Mash, the inspiring cap
-> Some new talented players
-> Senior players' regain of their form
-> A great coaching team
-> Selectors and
-> BCB's positive attitude (which they have forced to learn from previous mistakes) etc.

I would say Papon is very lucky that team has bounced back from it's "dark" past with a great cap Mash and a wonderful coach Chandika and his team.
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To me it feel like papon wants some credit
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The buck stops at the top i.e. to the BCB chairman.

Yes situation is still not in optimal condition,but there are signs of success or competency in too many areas for long enough so that it cannot be ignored as coincidence or just being lucky.

Yes Players,coaches, selectors are playing the key role for the success who should get the credit,but that doesn't mean we should ignore the top guy who is ultimately responsible for the well being of Bangladesh cricket. Is he making the right decisions in higher level? Is he slowly enforcing the law and order and the accountability to the players? Is he bring the right coaches and supporting them? Is he making small changes that is helping getting the new players and giving them opportunities? Is he protecting the players and the coaches from the politics of BCB sharks? Is he protecting the Bangladesh cricket interest in international cricket politics? Is he handling the new threats (match fixing) properly?

He is doing too many things right in different aspects to just ignore it as if he is just being lucky. Of-course he is not perfect, but he is already much better than 90% of our past BCB Presidents.

Here is the list of 14 BCB presidents that we had:

01 Professor Mohammad Yousuf Ali 1972 14 August 1976
02 Mr. S. S. Huda 14 August 1976 28 September 1981
03 Commodore Mujibur Rahman 28 September 1981 30 January 1983
04 Mr. K. Z. Islam 30 January 1983 18 February 1987
05 Barrister Anisul Islam Mahmood 18 February 1987 27 December 1990
06 Mr. Kazi Bahauddin Ahmed 27 December 1990 01 September 1991
07 Lt Col (retd.) Mustafizur Rahman 01 September 1991 04 July 1996
08 Mr. Saber Hossain Chowdhury, MP 04 July 1996 19 August 2001
09 Mr. M Akmal Hossain 19 August 2001 26 November 2001
10 Mr. Mohammad Ali Asghar, MP 26 November 2001 14 November 2006
11 Mr. M Abdul Aziz, ndc 14 November 2006 29 July 2007
12 Lt General Sina Ibn Jamali, awc, psc 29 July 2007 23 September 2009
13 Mr. A H M Mustafa Kamal, FCA, MP 23 September 2009 17 October 2012
14 Mr. Nazmul Hassan, MP 17 October 2012 Current



If you have a choice to go back and replace Papon with past presidents,who would you chose?

As for me, except for Saber,I would not trade Papon for any other presidents.

We are lucky that,after losing Saber, after a long time we got our 2nd chance with another good President with Papon. And we don't know how to appreciate that,and that's so sad.....


btw how we got Haturu daa, a low profile coach out of no where ? Credit need to be given where credit is due....
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Papon is indeed a good man and the best person to lead BCB at the moment. I never met Papon, does not know him in person. However, whenever I have seen him speaking him in the media, he seemed to me a respectable and qualified guy.

Papon was right about disciplining our cricketers. Spare the rod, spoils the child. As ATMR used to say, whipping (of course on the backside) er upor kono oushodh nai. This is especially true for Bangalis.

Remember who stopped S(k)ujon and Durjo(n)y who wanted to do bossing over Haturi? It is was Papon who stopped their unwanted dadagiri.
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And yes, Shakib had a big attitude problem. So had Mushy and Tamim to some extent. Shakib used to think that he was above the team and it was apparent on how he used to carry himself on the field. By punishing him, Papon sent the right message to make everyone understand that no one is above the team. Even Tendulkar was not above the team. The result? Shakib understood, performed with sincerity in the Zim series, and came back as a performer and a team guy.
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