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October 13, 2013, 04:52 PM
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Three 500 run ings in his HC era including 600 against Srilanka.
Well done Ustad Jurgensen.
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October 13, 2013, 08:40 PM
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He gets bashed a lot and even when we achieve success, we find others to credit, when things don't go so well we all blame him. He might not be a high profile coach but there must be something that he's doing right in our improvement as a team. So well done to coach Shane.
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October 14, 2013, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiger444
He gets bashed a lot and even when we achieve success, we find others to credit, when things don't go so well we all blame him. He might not be a high profile coach but there must be something that he's doing right in our improvement as a team. So well done to coach Shane.
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No doubt. .He is doing a great job. Hope he works on Anamul's footwork and most importantly improve our pacers ability to take wickets. Rubel is still crap, Shahadat is still horrible, Shafiul is lost. . He was hired as a fast bowling coach after all. .
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October 14, 2013, 11:32 AM
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No doubt. .He is doing a great job. Hope he works on Anamul's footwork and most importantly improve our pacers ability to take wickets. Rubel is still crap, Shahadat is still horrible, Shafiul is lost. . He was hired as a fast bowling coach after all. .
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thats the only reason he gets bashed, his achievements as a coach for BD is excellent, he is doing everything right but the job he was hired for in the first place, that is to improve the fast bowlers
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October 14, 2013, 12:30 PM
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I won't give much credit to SJ for the success we are having in internationals , because I haven't seen anyone improving individually, he is just lucky that during his era players like NAsir,Momin,Gazi came in.
Our pace attack is pure crap, knowing that he was mainly a bowling coach if he was that efficient we would have witnessed some significant improvement in our pace attack.
Like during Siddons time although the team didn't look good but we have seen many of our batsmen improving under him.
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October 14, 2013, 12:53 PM
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Simon, I would give due credit to Shane. Under him the players are playing like a team and that's why we are getting success. In Siddons era there were hardly any team performance and you don't go anywhere except going down with only individual performances.
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October 14, 2013, 03:04 PM
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Simon, I would give due credit to Shane. Under him the players are playing like a team and that's why we are getting success. In Siddons era there were hardly any team performance and you don't go anywhere except going down with only individual performances.
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Exactly. There has been lots of articles about how coach Shane has focused on team performance and greater unity. The players have credited him for that. Thats an important part of coaching as well.
Also don't put all the blame on Shane for the poor performances on our pacers. These players have to be held accountable as well. If Shahadat cries about having to attend practice then what can a coach do? And coach Ian has said this many times that our players are told things by coaches but they fail to apply them in matches. Again up to the players to learn and improve
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October 14, 2013, 03:12 PM
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Please forget Ian Pont! Just look forward.
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October 14, 2013, 04:25 PM
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Please forget Ian Pont! Just look forward.
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But why?
If Ian said something which happens to be true, you should accept that. Constrictive criticism should always be welcome.
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October 15, 2013, 12:29 AM
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I guess John Buchanon was also a great coach of the Australian Team
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October 15, 2013, 01:49 AM
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I guess John Buchanon was also a great coach of the Australian Team
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hahaha...are you seriously making the comparison?
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October 15, 2013, 02:21 PM
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hahaha...are you seriously making the comparison?
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I believe the likes of Nasir, Shakib, Mushy, Tamim, Ryad, Gazi. Razzak, Mashrafi etc will perform regardless of who is coaching at the moment. These group of cricketers have been around for awhile now and they are already at a level where they can perform against international teams. Most of these guys were developed by Dav, Siddons,Stuart Law etc. Right now we have an experienced and consistent group of core cricketers under a captain with good people skills. I would like to see intelligent tactical decisions employed on the field as well as improvement to Marshall, Anamul. Alamin. Abul, Robiul in the next few series before i am impressed by SJ. I dont believe we can attribute just results with his coaching skills because before SJ came in our performance at home was already on the rise (Asia cup).
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October 15, 2013, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiger444
Exactly. There has been lots of articles about how coach Shane has focused on team performance and greater unity. The players have credited him for that. Thats an important part of coaching as well.
Also don't put all the blame on Shane for the poor performances on our pacers. These players have to be held accountable as well. If Shahadat cries about having to attend practice then what can a coach do? And coach Ian has said this many times that our players are told things by coaches but they fail to apply them in matches. Again up to the players to learn and improve
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the team thing is true although i think what we got out of the siddons era is more consistent batting from tamim, shakib and mushy and without their consistency that came from that, we wouldn't be producing the team efforts we are right now (might be producing team efforts but not to the standard they currently are).
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October 15, 2013, 04:47 PM
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the team thing is true although i think what we got out of the siddons era is more consistent batting from tamim, shakib and mushy and without their consistency that came from that, we wouldn't be producing the team efforts we are right now (might be producing team efforts but not to the standard they currently are).
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Oh ya no doubt Siddons was a good coach as well. He was a good coach in a different way. He helped our batsmen a lot from a technique standpoint.
For the most part, I've been pretty pleased with our coaches. In some way they have helped to get us to this point. From the likes of Whatmore, Siddons, Law and now Jurgs
Now coach Shane needs to take us to the next level which I hope he can
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October 15, 2013, 11:46 PM
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Shane may be a better man-manager coach then a technical coach. Explains why there is team unity even though most of the technical improvements are coming from the self-motivated players. Now imagine a line-up of Shane as HC, Siddons as batting coach, Ponty as fast-bowling coach, Saqlain as spin-bowling coach and Fountain as fielding coach. Not impossible - BCB can ask sponsors to put their names in for each position (Jomuna Bash Pacer Coach Ian Pon, Jhokmok Tel Batting Coach Jamie Siddons).
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October 16, 2013, 12:00 AM
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Shane may be a better man-manager coach then a technical coach. Explains why there is team unity even though most of the technical improvements are coming from the self-motivated players. Now imagine a line-up of Shane as HC, Siddons as batting coach, Ponty as fast-bowling coach, Saqlain as spin-bowling coach and Fountain as fielding coach. Not impossible - BCB can ask sponsors to put their names in for each position (Jomuna Bash Pacer Coach Ian Pon, Jhokmok Tel Batting Coach Jamie Siddons).
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Cool idea Razab bhai
It would be a dream team ^^^
All it takes is BCB's willing to do ...
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I won't jump on the Shane train. He is a former fast bowler right? What has he done to fix the blemishes of Rubel to make him better? Or get the balls to question the repeated selections of Abul and Shahdat?
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October 16, 2013, 06:26 AM
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I won't jump on the Shane train. He is a former fast bowler right? What has he done to fix the blemishes of Rubel to make him better? Or get the balls to question the repeated selections of Abul and Shahdat?
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I don't think brain transplant is a legal option for coaches... so can't blame SJ for failing with Rubel
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Shane may be a better man-manager coach then a technical coach. Explains why there is team unity even though most of the technical improvements are coming from the self-motivated players. Now imagine a line-up of Shane as HC, Siddons as batting coach, Plenty as fast-bowling coach, Saqlain as spin-bowling coach and Fountain as fielding coach. Not impossible - BCB can ask sponsors to put their names in for each position (Jomuna Bash Pacer Coach Ian Pon, Jhokmok Tel Batting Coach Jamie Siddons).
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Good post Razab Vi. I do agree with you. Shane is probably good man manager. Man management is a major part of head coach. If BCB can provided coaching line up u suggested that would be good. I forgot the name of current assistant coach. Probably he is giving a good service in both batting and fielding department,so BCB is not filing the due batting coach post.
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ICC World Twenty20: Q&A with Bangladesh coach Jurgensen
By Shajan Miah BBC Sport
A nation's eyes will be on Bangladesh when the ICC World Twenty20 gets under way on Sunday.
The hosts open the tournament against Afghanistan, giving them an immediate chance to avenge their defeat by the qualifiers in the Asia Cup, a tournament in which they lost all four games.
But Bangladesh's Australia-born coach Shane Jurgensen tells BBC Sport why he believes his side could shock the bigger nations.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/26573651
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March 17, 2014, 08:28 AM
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Is he riding on the fact that this is probably Bangladesh's best ever team with many players in their peak age. So the team would do well under any decent coach.
Or is he really doing a good job motivating the players and getting them performing as a unit.
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March 20, 2014, 11:39 AM
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Jurg, please, it's time for you to go. Even associate teams now have better pacers. You are a total failure in your area of specialty.
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March 20, 2014, 11:48 AM
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Jurg, please, it's time for you to go. Even associate teams now have better pacers. You are a total failure in your area of specialty.
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March 20, 2014, 11:53 AM
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Time for him to go.
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March 20, 2014, 11:55 AM
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See how Hong Kong kept runs going despite losing wickets. I cant believe a coach doesnt have any influence to prevent such things from hapenning
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