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[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by Donal C
Taylor wont be able to play for Zimbabwe as he's on a kolpak, as part of being a kolpak you cannot play international cricket, ZCB's eligibility rules dont come into it.

As for Scottish and Irish players, they dont count as internationals, they count as home grown players because Scotland is in the UK as is NI, so they dont need kolpak deals, pretty sure this applies to the Dutch as well (could be wrong), although some Dutch players like Kervezee have stopped playing for Holland but play county, pretty sure thats due to the KNCB though but could be wrong

Thanks. This rule is an absurd rule which was created later on. Kolpak was a slovac handball player.

[brockley]

Kerzevee can play for Holland chooses not 2,choosing 2 qualify for England and turning his back on Holland.

Zimbabwe lost a number of players on kolpak contracts.
If the icc was fair it would crack down on the predatory county system,their is 80 foreigners playing as locals in county cricket,30/40 in the 2nds.
Irish,scottish and Holland players can play for their respective teams,but counties refuse to release them.
I am bitter as a number of australians have entered the county system as locals denying australia those players for our depth.
When a player signs a contract as a local/kolpak they do so by pledging their allegience to mother england,and are committed to that county for 12 months,its disgression on the part of the county whether they can play overseas.
Everyone hates it by thee icc does nothing,and try to argue with an english fan and they will always back the system.

[Tigers_eye]

^ eye opening Brockley.

So it was always the county teams REFUSING the release of players. That is what I thought to begin with. Kolpak is noting but labor agreement and freedom of moving.

[mafizraju]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
past performance doesn't count. You said it. Plus You can't compare us with SL. They had a cricketing structure (domestic league) which goes back to early 1900s. Ours started AFTER we got the test status. Everything before that was all Dhaka based club cricket. May be some in Chittagong.

NZ got to the finals after how many years of Test cricket?
+++
My point was we are not really that bad. Dooms day hasn't come yet for our cricket. I have hope. Every team progresses with time. We have to progress at a higher rate to catch them since we began so low. Do you know what we argued here at BC in 2005?

Who will be our first 30+ average batsman, which player got 50s against a top 8 team and how many, wasting ball doesn't matter cause we can't stick around for 50 overs, does Eng have ordinary attack, will there be a ONE day test match at Australia, HHS. We have come a long way!!!!

It brings back a lot of memories

We really were afraid that test matches in autralia will end up being one day event. Hannan Sarkar scored fifties, and we were over the moon.

With regards to 30+ avg, our top gun Tamim is still under 30. He has been such a disappointment that he has not progressed as much we and he wanted to be. I feel like he has not achieved anything in last four years.

[Ajfar]

Originally Posted by mufi_02
You can rest assure. ICC will not go with 10 team WC in 2019. Almost everyone from the fans to the experts have spoken against it. They will have to expand. If not then IRE can be the 10th team and Zim will be the 11th.

I'm pretty sure it will end up being similar to the T20 WC. The main event will have 10 teams, top 8 will qualify automatically. BD, Zim and top 4 or 6 associates will play in a qualifying round for the 9th and 10th spot. This is probably the solution ICC will provide after all this complaining from everybody.

[Donal C]

With Pakistan falling to #8 as a result of this series how many points behind are Bangladesh??

Honestly, you guys really need to get home tours vs WI,Zim,Afg and Ireland going because if you do well in those you should comfortably make the CT and WC.

[Eshen]

^^If they lose the next match, their rating should be 92, ours 81. Beating Zim, Ire, Afg not going to help us rise, for that we need to beat higher ranking teams.

[NoName]

A few wins against Ind/SA/Aus AT home will surely get us past

[MHRAM]

I would like for us to tour Ireland. Will be more important series to us than playing Pakistan or Zimbabwe in home

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Donal C
With Pakistan falling to #8 as a result of this series how many points behind are Bangladesh??

Honestly, you guys really need to get home tours vs WI,Zim,Afg and Ireland going because if you do well in those you should comfortably make the CT and WC.

Even 4-1 wins vs ZIM, AFG, IRE will probably set us back since the point differentials are so big now. We're now about 30 pts ahead of ZIM, our nearest competitor.

[cricbook]

I'm expecting bd will trash india also...if they can beat Pakistan against their world class bowling attack, India nothing. ....inshallah we will play champions League

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
I would like for us to tour Ireland. Will be more important series to us than playing Pakistan or Zimbabwe in home

What's the logic here?

We preparing standard flat tracks (not as low-slow as they used to be in Pre-Hathuri era) for ODI cricket nowadays. Going forward, our home experience should prepare us to play on most of the surfaces around the world, at least for shorter formats of the game. Why should we jeopardize ourselves on non-standard pitches of Ireland? Sure, that will give Ireland a good chance to score some points on us, but what's there for us to gain?

Only reason to play Ireland on Ireland may be to prepare for a England tour in their early summer.

[Donal C]

Originally Posted by Eshen
What's the logic here?

We preparing standard flat tracks (not as low-slow as they used to be in Pre-Hathuri era) for ODI cricket nowadays. Going forward, our home experience should prepare us to play on most of the surfaces around the world, at least for shorter formats of the game. Why should we jeopardize ourselves on non-standard pitches of Ireland? Sure, that will give Ireland a good chance to score some points on us, but what's there for us to gain?

Only reason to play Ireland on Ireland may be to prepare for a England tour in their early summer.

I suppose the logic would be that it'd prepare your young batsmen and bowlers well and benefit them in future by exposing them to swinging and seaming conditions

[Eshen]

^^ For one-day cricket, it's rare to find seaming pitches nowadays. Like Asad pointed out, it's not worth for us to risk losing points in Ireland, while winning every single match still won't help us rise.

It would be more logical for us to send our A-team, to play few FC matches over there, to gain the sort of experience you are talking about.

[Zeeshan]

Ranking (not Boyd Rankin) will take care of itself. Just perform. that sounds gross

[brockley]

Sounds like you are frightened to play ireland because you might lose?Sure their will be a contest ireland bt bangladesh in the warm up,but thats no reason not to play them.
They are better than zimbabwe now,and will be a competitive side unlike the other associates.
The other side of the coin you may win especially at home.

The other reason to play them is to do your bit.Don't fear losing to them where is your confidence level?

[horizon]

With current Bangladesh pace attack, Bangladesh should beat Ireland in Ireland. Only thing I'm afraid of is Kevin.

[WarWolf]

Originally Posted by horizon
With current Bangladesh pace attack, Bangladesh should beat Ireland in Ireland. Only thing I'm afraid of is Kevin.

Yes. Sometimes Kevin go into beast mood, specially against Bangladesh.

[Shubho]

To be frank, there is no incentive to play lower-ranked teams. This is something that the ICC should have addressed a long time ago. Full members need to lose ranking points if they fail to play lower-ranked nations every year. The top-ranked nations need to be penalized more. This way, there will be some equity in the number of games each nation plays.

Bangladesh were fortunate to obtain test status when we did. Without it, we would be playing 1-2 ODIs a year and our cricket would be nowhere. Heck, even with test status we play 33% fewer ODIs than most full member nations.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Shubho
. Heck, even with test status we play 33% fewer ODIs than most full member nations.

We play less than half, not just 33% less. We play 10-12 ODIs a year, India/Sri Lanka play 25-30.

In my opinion, we should play the likes of Ireland and Afghanistan. We aren't so good yet that we can't benefit by playing them. Touring IRE won't be easy and our boys will learn to cope with swing and seam. We can play them in away tours and that way they can also make some money off it.

There is no point playing other ODI status teams like UAE, HK, PNG. If they improve, we can play teams like Nepal and PNG

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Eshen
^^ For one-day cricket, it's rare to find seaming pitches nowadays. Like Asad pointed out, it's not worth for us to risk losing points in Ireland, while winning every single match still won't help us rise.

It would be more logical for us to send our A-team, to play few FC matches over there, to gain the sort of experience you are talking about.

I still think we should play IRE and AFG (but no other Associates). We shouldn't be high and mighty like the BCCI. Even if we lose a couple of matches, we can make it up now that we beat the F9 sides regularly.

[BANFAN]

Lets take it easy, don't have to go either of the extremes. We need to play the top nations more and actually beat them regularly. We have just beaten Pak, Zim , WI & NZ confidently at home; yet to beat or evenly compete on a regular basis with Aus/SA/SL/Ind/Eng at home....

So we don't need to be so benevolent towards Ireland or Afghanistan. We haven't taken contract of spreading cricket, we have no obligation to arrange additional series with them, because we don't gain anything playing them. Once we are confident with any team at home, our next mission will be to hold on to home performances and venture outside... At that stage we can tour Ireland to have a true series involving may be Afg or other associates just to master the art of playing in those pitches....at the same time giving some chance to the associates to play as well .. We don't need to actually fear losing to them, even if we lose one odd match sometime, that won't hurt us ...

But we are still in our first stage, "Beating all the teams & competing them evenly on our surfaces" this year we have Aus, SA and Ind coming ... Let's do it .. Next year we can think of touring Ireland and call Afg also there, as a Preperation for touring England or Preparing for next World Cup ...

[horizon]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
I still think we should play IRE and AFG (but no other Associates). We shouldn't be high and mighty like the BCCI. Even if we lose a couple of matches, we can make it up now that we beat the F9 sides regularly.

I like the spirit. At least home series against Ireland and Afghanistan should be a good deal.

[Tigers_eye]

19 April 2015

Team	Matches	Points	Rating
Australia	59	7221	122
India	77	8910	116
South Africa	62	6926	112
New Zealand	54	5851	108
Sri Lanka	89	9535	107
England	62	6271	101
Pakistan	68	6318	93
West Indies	57	5246	92
Bangladesh	40	3178	79
Zimbabwe	41	2051	50
Ireland	16	705	44
Afghanistan	20	765	38

[Tigers_eye]

How do they calculate points? can someone give us a link or something? Surely it wouldn't be that difficult to do it ourselves.

Each match equals to how many points?

We have the data. Date ranges (by the year), wins and losses records.