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Old March 18, 2017, 06:32 PM
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Roy has definitely impressed and done his job even though he has no wickets to show for it, Roy has decent pace and Control and more importantly can swing the odd one to confuse batsmen. I see Roy as a longterm solution .
Roy + Fizz +Mohammad Shohid should be our three pace attack with Taskin, Shafiul Rubel as backup!
Not sure on that, seems like we are happy to settle with Roy and shahid because we don't think we can find anyone better, I expect taskin to become a decent test bowler averaging under 32 which imo is better than what Roy and shahid will do so I'd still be sticking with taskin.

Surely there is at least one other young pacer out there worth giving some chances to. Need to aim high and not just settle.
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Old March 18, 2017, 07:27 PM
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Not sure on that, seems like we are happy to settle with Roy and shahid because we don't think we can find anyone better, I expect taskin to become a decent test bowler averaging under 32 which imo is better than what Roy and shahid will do so I'd still be sticking with taskin.

Surely there is at least one other young pacer out there worth giving some chances to. Need to aim high and not just settle.
What about Abu Jayed? Hes picking up a lot of wickets in domestics and looked good in BPL. Lacking in pace though
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Old March 18, 2017, 08:22 PM
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Roy, Shohid, Abu Jayed these are the kind of guys that should pair up with Fizz when we play 2 seamers only. They are more accurate, consistent and can keep things tidy while Fizz and spinners does the damage. When we play 3 seamers, thats when u can afford to play guys like Taskin, Rubel, Al Amin who are generally more attacking and goes for wickets.

But Fizz has been very good in this game. I am actually glad he is bowling at a slower pace. It is enabling him to bowl longer spells. Yesterday he bowled a 7 over spell. Thats impressive for a young guy that just recovered from injury. I would rather he focuses on swinging away from lefties rather then working on pace. He can hit 140s if he wants to but he doesnt need to bowl that pace with his accuracy and intelligence
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Old March 19, 2017, 03:11 PM
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Taskin doesn't have it in him for tests it seems. Looks a far better bowler in ODIs compared to tests. If Taskin plays tests then he should be considered as a 3rd seamer. Roy, Shahid and Fizz should be the 3 seamers if we play tests in Australia, England, Zimbabwe and South Africa.
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Old March 19, 2017, 03:31 PM
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Taskin does have all the raw materials to be successful in tests. At the moment, he just appears little undercooked. I think, he needs couple of first class seasons (at least 30 odd matches in searing hot bowling 20+ overs a day) to build up stamina, endurance, learning to reverse-swing the ball.

Hope the decision makers give him the right guidance / advice and offer him encouragements through out this 'learning' period when he is not part of the test team so that when he does come back, he will be back strongly.
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Old March 19, 2017, 04:54 PM
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Taskin doesn't have it in him for tests it seems. Looks a far better bowler in ODIs compared to tests. If Taskin plays tests then he should be considered as a 3rd seamer. Roy, Shahid and Fizz should be the 3 seamers if we play tests in Australia, England, Zimbabwe and South Africa.
How many dropped chances does taskin have to face others Don't?

He still needs time to be fully ready I agree though

And let's not forget first test match was a complete road
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Old March 19, 2017, 04:56 PM
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Not sure on that, seems like we are happy to settle with Roy and shahid because we don't think we can find anyone better, I expect taskin to become a decent test bowler averaging under 32 which imo is better than what Roy and shahid will do so I'd still be sticking with taskin.

Surely there is at least one other young pacer out there worth giving some chances to. Need to aim high and not just settle.
Test matches are cruel to fast bowlers

Taskin may have a higher ceiling but Roy and especially Shahid are in their prime and better prepared for 2 playing number 2
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Old March 19, 2017, 04:59 PM
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I hope somebody close to Fiz listened today's commentary from Dean Jones. If he can learn to swing the new ball back to the right handers and reaches his pre-surgery speed, he would be extremely effective... I am praying that somebody having his ear also understands this and convinces him to work on these two areas... He has the potential to be an all-time great in Test.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, mustafizur action will make it difficult to swing it back in, not that he can't do it, he can develop good seam movement in and good shape in, but with his action it won't be overnight
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Old March 19, 2017, 05:42 PM
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Fizz bowled brilliant in his early Test career days and after that operation . But he seems to better when the bowl is not fully new.

Out of the 3 pacers, he did the best job. Roy has surprised me and if he keeps working hard will overtake Taskin in Tests. Although out of the three pacers Roy is a better fielder. And all 3 suck at batting.
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Old March 19, 2017, 06:12 PM
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Old March 19, 2017, 08:43 PM
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Fizz bowled brilliant in his early Test career days and after that operation . But he seems to better when the bowl is not fully new.

Out of the 3 pacers, he did the best job. Roy has surprised me and if he keeps working hard will overtake Taskin in Tests. Although out of the three pacers Roy is a better fielder. And all 3 suck at batting.
I'm sorry but Roy wouldn't be able to overtake even a langra Taskin. Roy has gotten most of his wickets from lucky balls...a bit like Al Amin in T20s. Taskin has had a good 5-6 wickets dropped or not given so far early in his career. Not to mention because of his young age, Taskin has way more upside.

Roy should be compared to Shahid, Shafiul, Rabbi, Robiul, etc.
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Old March 19, 2017, 09:20 PM
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Imo when taking two pacers in tests it's an easy decision, fizz and taskin are the two. If we take a third pacer it's more difficult, we could settle for Roy or shahid or we could try to find another good young talent, I really feel Abu hider is worth some matches. I know he isn't the quickest and doesn't have the best FC stats but I feel he should be the 3rd pacer.
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Old March 20, 2017, 01:30 AM
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I'm sorry but Roy wouldn't be able to overtake even a langra Taskin. Roy has gotten most of his wickets from lucky balls...a bit like Al Amin in T20s. Taskin has had a good 5-6 wickets dropped or not given so far early in his career. Not to mention because of his young age, Taskin has way more upside.

Roy should be compared to Shahid, Shafiul, Rabbi, Robiul, etc.
Remind me, but which pacer was taken in the recently played 2nd test and who was dropped among Taskin and Roy πŸ™‚
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Old March 20, 2017, 01:51 AM
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Remind me, but which pacer was taken in the recently played 2nd test and who was dropped among Taskin and Roy πŸ™‚
I dont think Tashkin was dropped, you need to rotate your pacers
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Old March 20, 2017, 02:22 AM
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I dont think Tashkin was dropped, you need to rotate your pacers
Well he wasn't effective thats why dropped/rested. This game was important for us hence why Roy was selected
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Old March 20, 2017, 02:25 AM
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Musta needs to develop his batting.. roy is better than him by miles
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Old March 20, 2017, 02:37 AM
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Well he wasn't effective thats why dropped/rested. This game was important for us hence why Roy was selected
We went with only two pacers in this match. Taskin is not fully physically ready to bowl long spells. Roy is decent and can bowl long spells. Hence Roy got the cut.
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Old March 20, 2017, 02:41 AM
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We went with only two pacers in this match. Taskin is not fully physically ready to bowl long spells. Roy is decent and can bowl long spells. Hence Roy got the cut.
According to Al Furqaan a langra Taskin is better than Roy. His words not mine.

But jokes apart, I also said Taskin atm is not test match ready but comparatively Roy is. Even Roy as a tail ender seemed more comfortable batting as well too.
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Old March 20, 2017, 03:00 AM
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I am really relieved to see Mustafiz finding his rhythm back. Got really worried after seeing him in NZ.
He looks as threatening as before which is extremely great news.
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Old March 20, 2017, 09:45 AM
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By training hard, and bulking up.

His first xpected workload for an average test match should be 20 overs/innings.

Good for him that he actually contributed to this win. He's a cool kid.
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Old March 20, 2017, 09:51 AM
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Ya... fitness is the issue. Otherwise what a great young talent.

very few FBs in the past could change the game in one spell out of nowhere (its not that the pitch was favoring the FB).
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Old March 20, 2017, 10:07 AM
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Another thing is he needs to adjust his radar to a particular format. Only he knows which one. Limited overs? Test? All three formats?
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Old March 20, 2017, 10:25 AM
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I'm sorry but Roy wouldn't be able to overtake even a langra Taskin. Roy has gotten most of his wickets from lucky balls...a bit like Al Amin in T20s. Taskin has had a good 5-6 wickets dropped or not given so far early in his career. Not to mention because of his young age, Taskin has way more upside.

Roy should be compared to Shahid, Shafiul, Rabbi, Robiul, etc.
No doubt taskin has more potential, but when did Roy get lucky wickets, he's bowled tight lines banging it in and nipping it, excellent seam position also in fact much better position than Mustafizur
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Old March 20, 2017, 10:27 AM
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By training hard, and bulking up.

His first xpected workload for an average test match should be 20 overs/innings.

Good for him that he actually contributed to this win. He's a cool kid.
He needs to bulk up gradually, too much too early he'll lose his arm speed

His body type reminds me of a young Pacquiao

Mustafizur could do with adding 5-7 pounds in the next year
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Old March 20, 2017, 10:29 AM
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Mustafizur could do with adding 5-7 pounds in the next year
Of muscles.

(Not fat of course )
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