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September 16, 2005, 05:35 PM
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how good are we???
It seems our batsman cannot cope with a quality spinner in aspin friendly pitch.. and they cannot handle even a good seaming attck in the seaming pitch...
on that day, capitulation against Murli was inevitable.. interesting that we probably got more runs in the second innings as far as last seven wickets are concerned.....
we probably have to live with it that we are only as good as that.. i think all the good performance is in a frendly condition..
for example:
the test matches down under were played in a non-typical aussie pitch or the four hundred in the first test was poor bowling by opponents....
but we have one or two guys ho can prove some things .. problem i they shine only few and far between...
But fans like us will still expect.. "prisoners of hope cannot be free..."
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September 16, 2005, 08:30 PM
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The problem is not expectation of high scores. Lets say we avoided an innings defeat and made the match to go for fifth day morning session. We would have been very happy with the chivalry. Besides if each player on an average made 20 then we could have a nice scorecard with 7-8 double figures.
Which could give whatmore a smile and Bashar could at least say we know how to play and honor test caps, our home work is well implied,etc. etc. etc.
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September 16, 2005, 08:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by feisal
on that day, capitulation against Murli was inevitable.. interesting that we probably got more runs in the second innings as far as last seven wickets are concerned.....
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Although absolutely true only few people here seems to understand this. Our performances against Eng and SL are a fare representation of the present situation! On a turning wicket we have absolutely no chance against Murali and on a seaming wicket we have absolutely no chance against English pace quatret. 9 out of 10 times Irfan pathan will be able to run through our top order if he get his swing right. Bond and Vettori can retrict us within 180 in all but slow batting tracks. Despite having Rafique and Enamul and Manjural and Razzak Raj, our batsmen are ill equipped to play left arm spin. 9 out of 10 times our batsmen will fail to score more than 300 against any quality attacks even on the most benign of pitches.
But despite all these I think we are going in the right direction. I wish we could have a quality first class structure so that players like Aftab and Ashraful are not thrown into the deep before learning to swim!!
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September 16, 2005, 09:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by feisal
It seems our batsman cannot cope with a quality spinner in aspin friendly pitch.. and they cannot handle even a good seaming attck in the seaming pitch...
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But fans like us will still expect.. "prisoners of hope cannot be free..."
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I think this is a very pertinent post. "How good are we ?"
It is better to ask this question than the following:
1) Is Murali a chucker ?
2) Is Lasith Malingga a chucker ?
3) Is so-and-so 'something that rhymes' ?
4) Who was that umpire ? A Sri Lankan 'chor' umpire ?
5) Can we use Murali's current mental state to do well against him and Sri Lanka ?
You need to look inwards before you look at others.
Thank you feisal for an intelligent post which all of us fellow members would find very useful.
Edited on, September 17, 2005, 2:07 AM GMT, by abherath.
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September 16, 2005, 10:33 PM
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Quote:
1) Is Murali a chucker ?
2) Is Lasith Malingga a chucker ?
3) Is so-and-so 'something that rhymes' ?
4) Who was that umpire ? A Sri Lankan 'chor' umpire ?
5) Can we use Murali's current mental state to do well against him and Sri Lanka ?
You need to look inwards before you look at others.
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September 17, 2005, 12:46 AM
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Excuse me,,, Didnt this very Srilankan team beat India, New Zealand and aniliate Zimbabwe just few months back? Isnt this team the top rated team currently in world cricket? So yes, losing by an innings margin does look bad but you have to consider the oppositions strength.
Bangladesh is not in the top 5 teams... Dont expect that Ashraful, Bashar, Rafique will always shine and get you closer to a win. As Bangladesh is improving,, so are other countries. We are not the only talented team in the world. There are other talented teams too, who work hard, act professional, have adequate financial backing, have great coaches.
Yes, our result is a snapshot of what we were that very day(s) but by no means it say that we are that bad. If that was the case,, Australia is a loses Bangladesh, West Indies is hopeless, India loses in 2 days, and New Zealand takes 26 years for everything, the list goes on......
So Bangladesh is bad,,, live with it. These one day wins against thse might teams will soon convert to more days. The question is when is this soon... I say, Soon you wont be asking that soon...
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September 17, 2005, 01:25 AM
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india is betta then srilanka in tests!!
ranking 3rd currently!
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September 17, 2005, 01:51 AM
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The easier question to answer is "How bad are we?"
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September 17, 2005, 06:53 AM
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How good are we?
as good as our weakest player.
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September 17, 2005, 07:22 AM
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We are as good as any 2nd division cricket team of other international countries
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September 17, 2005, 10:34 AM
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how good are we???
:embaressed: Shobar sham-ne blote hobe... Hate Hari Bhanga ke thik hobe?
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September 17, 2005, 11:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fazal
how good are we???
:embaressed: Shobar sham-ne blote hobe... Hate Hari Bhanga ke thik hobe?
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we can say that in another way so that...
shap-o mare latti-o na bhange
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September 18, 2005, 02:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by One World
Quote:
1) Is Murali a chucker ?
2) Is Lasith Malingga a chucker ?
3) Is so-and-so 'something that rhymes' ?
4) Who was that umpire ? A Sri Lankan 'chor' umpire ?
5) Can we use Murali's current mental state to do well against him and Sri Lanka ?
You need to look inwards before you look at others.
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i agree with you on the all the point exceprt bout De silva, he is just a not a quality umpire and is shouldnt be umpiring at all.
But never mind, we should be looking at how to improve our cricket rather than finding excuses. Looking for excuses will never improve our team. We have to learn from mistakes
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September 18, 2005, 05:08 AM
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peepz... we forget to remember that not too long ago we got annihilated by england in test cricket... sri lanka is similar in strength to england if not better... i don't know where all our irrational exuberance comes from... could it be the win agianst the aussies? in one day cricket there have been lot of instances where underdogs have beaten great teams... let's get on with it, huh?
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