World Cup Match Thread: Bangladesh vs. Ireland, February 25th, 2011 SBNS, Dhaka 14:30 Local, 8:30 GMT 3:30 EST 2:30 CST 0:30 PST

[senman]

Originally Posted by Jadukor
I would play Nafees ahead of Naeem who failed with both bat and ball and bank on Nafees to get it right in a couple of games even if he failed against Ireland... Nafees is a squad member of the 15 and has earned his right to be a part of the final 11... He is a good player of spin and has two recent centuries under his belt one of which was while chasing 300+ total. I would prefer him over Ashraful...

Buddy the problem is India is the best players of spin, Naeem failed because he is not of the calibre of Murali. I bet he will do fantastically well against other teams, who have no clue against spin, the last thing you want to do is going with 3 seam attack or minus 1 spinner like Naeem against Eng or S.A

[cricket_king]

Originally Posted by senman
I read in the newspaper Ireland team scouted Bangladesh yesterday, so probably they would have worked out one or two tactics against Bangladesh. Instead of changing the team its time to change the tactics,
If Bangladesh bat first:
Get 90 runs in the first 15 overs, milk the bowling from 16to 40 overs score at least 115~125 runs, then go berserk at the last 10 overs probably score 100 runs. Then open with spinners since Ireland practice on seaming wickets they will find it difficult to face the spinners.

If Bangladesh bowl first:
Open with spinners and go with full spin attack ,clean up the lower order using spin or pace contain them within 200 or 220
Tamim batted really well yesterday, he should be doing samething that try to stick around till the end, other batsmen should give Bangladesh blazing start and reach the target within 35 ~40 overs, thereby can offset the negative Run Rate.

^ Now that's just silly. Opening with spinners have never worked, especially not for us, and that kind of underestimation will only lead to a loss. Ireland may find our spinners tough in our conditions, but there's no way it'll work if the ball barely spins, which will be the case if we open with spinners. 3 pacers and Shuvo ahead of either Naeem or Mahmudullah IMO.

[Jadukor]

Originally Posted by senman
Buddy the problem is India is the best players of spin, Naeem failed because he is not of the calibre of Murali. I bet he will do fantastically well against other teams, who have no clue against spin, the last thing you want to do is going with 3 seam attack or minus 1 spinner like Naeem against Eng or S.A

There is no doubt Indians are the best players against spin...but thats no excuse for the half trackers Naeem was bowling. He averages 40 runs per wicket with the ball as a spinner and with the bat, his last 50 came against zimbabwe in Nov 2009... I don't think changing a player of his caliber makes that much of a difference to the squad if we are as good as we think we are....

3 seam attack might not be a good idea against Ireland I agree, but even if Nafees isn't picked I would prefer Shuvo as a specialist spinner ahead of Naeem

[Night_wolf]

ok this is now atm the most important match in the wc for bd..a lose here and thats it..we r out

[Jadukor]

Originally Posted by Night_wolf
ok this is now atm the most important match in the wc for bd..a lose here and thats it..we r out

naah... ai match harmu na... their pacers will be useless against us on this track..and they dont have quality spinners either... we just have to play our normal game and we got this...

[ahms]

India shook our bowler's confidence. They need regrouping and start back again keeping basic right. Batsman should not relax either, they need to do their homework. India showed the way how to bat. Anything less than demoralizing performance against Ireland is not accepted.

Tigers need to roar which can be heard in all four corners, from Dhaka to Delhi, Chittagong to Colombo.

[mehedi]

keep the same team for this game atleast

Good luck

[allrounder]

who is our second wicket keeper?

[amar11432]

Please Bring Shahriar Nafees Against Ireland

[magic boy]

Originally Posted by amar11432

Please Bring Shahriar Nafees Against Ireland

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[ahms]

Originally Posted by senman
Buddy the problem is India is the best players of spin, Naeem failed because he is not of the calibre of Murali. I bet he will do fantastically well against other teams, who have no clue against spin, the last thing you want to do is going with 3 seam attack or minus 1 spinner like Naeem against Eng or S.A

I agree with Senman somewhat. No drastic change is necessary. However, Shuvo could be better option than Naeem.

[Rifat_02]

Time to get our own little revenge. I want a crushing victory

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[Fazal]

Originally Posted by amar11432

Please Bring Shahriar Nafees Against Ireland

That may make sense, but that will not happen anytime soon.

Taklu Da still SN-er upor Goshha Korey ache...

[safa]

Assalamu walaikum brothers....
Congrats to the bangladesh team for playing good cricket in the first match.The bowling cost us the match,as shakib said.I think shafiul was a bit nervous,hoping that he will come back strongly because he is player of that class.The biggest blunder bangladesh made against the India match was playing only 2 pacers,they should have played 3 pacers instead,because indians are a better players of spin.Lets forget that now,start from scratch against IRE.To be honest they are a dangerous team with good players.More than that they have nothing to lose,as their coach said they will target only specific teams.In my opinion their targets will be 1.NED 2.BAN 3.WI.If you go through their warm up matches it clearly shows that they played with good team effort,almost everyone contributed for them.I think 8 of their batsmans scored btw 40-80 in those matches.
IRE:
They have good batsmans in Porterfield,Joyce,Neilo'brain,kevino'brain,stirlin g,Botha.
Their bowling is also good with Johnson,Rankin,Langford smith along with spinners the 18 year old Dockrell, & White.
BAN:
For BAN to win against them they definitely need a wholesome team effort rather than individual performances from shakib or tamim. IRE are not good players of spin,so my team BAN against IRE is as follows
Tamim Imrul Junaed/Nafees Mushfiq Shakib Ashraful Mahmudullah shuvo/Nazmul Razzak Shafiul Rubel
Junaed innings against IND was not upto the level,once he tried the pullshot it went up in the air & a difficult chance was put down.During the introduction of spin he struggled a lot to pick up gaps.Not much footwork by him.Later he find gaps and got a good going but didn't utilise it.
There is no other position suited for Mushfiq than the no 4.He can't hit the ball hard.Also he is struggling to find gaps during PP.But he can rotate the strike well,also a better player of spin.Eventhough Raqibul played well he has to sacrifice his position for team's cause.
Many say Mahmudullah bowled badly but IMO he bowled ok.But he wasn't economical but he got a breakthrough.IMO both ASH & RIYAD are PP choices also they can bowl around 14-16 overs btw them with legspin & offspin which adds variety to the bowling attack.ASH is a player who can hit hard,pick gaps during PP he is a dangerous players if he gets going.
MY PATTERN WILL BE 4-1-2-2-2.
4 batsmans 1 genuine allrounder 2 allrounders 2 SLA's 2 pacers
Last but not least,the main thing which costs the game against IND is the 3rd WKT parternership btw SHEWAG & KOHLI.They rotated the strike very well,run a number of 2's,punished the bad deliveries to boundaries and they took the game away from us.I WANT THE BATSMENS TO PUT A SHOW LIKE THAT.
TAMIM promised he wants to be the top scorer in every match & he kept the promise in the very first match.Similarly SHAKIB promised that we will be able to beat any team other than the subcontinent teams. I want SHAKIB to fulfill the promise he made...
I finish here by saying the quote in one of our brothers profile said by Michael Jordan:"TALENT WINS GAME BUT TEAMWORK WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS"
INSHALLAH, ALLAH BLESS ALL OF US -Ameen

[safa]

Assalamu walaikum brothers....
Congrats to the bangladesh team for playing good cricket in the first match.The bowling cost us the match,as shakib said.I think shafiul was a bit nervous,hoping that he will come back strongly because he is player of that class.The biggest blunder bangladesh made against the India match was playing only 2 pacers,they should have played 3 pacers instead,because indians are a better players of spin.Lets forget that now,start from scratch against IRE.To be honest they are a dangerous team with good players.More than that they have nothing to lose,as their coach said they will target only specific teams.In my opinion they targets will be 1.NED 2.BAN 3.WI.If you go through their warm up matches it clearly shows that they played with good team effort,almost everyone contributed for them.I think 8 of their batsmans scored btw 40-80 in those matches.
IRE:
They have good batsmans in Porterfield,Joyce,Neilo'brain,kevino'brain,stirlin g,Botha.
Their bowling is also good with Johnson,Rankin,Langford smith along with spinners the 18 year old Dockrell, & White.
BAN:
For BAN to win against them they definitely need a wholesome team effort rather than individual performances from shakib or tamim. IRE are not good players of spin,so my team BAN against IRE is as follows
Tamim Imrul Junaed/Nafees Mushfiq Shakib Ashraful Mahmudullah shuvo/Nazmul Razzak Shafiul Rubel
Junaed innings against IND was not upto the level,once he tried the pullshot it went up in the air & a difficult chance was put down.During the introduction of spin he struggled a lot to pick up gaps.Not much footwork by him.Later he find gaps and got a good going but didn't utilise it.
There is no other position suited for Mushfiq than the no 4.He can't hit the ball hard.Also he is struggling to find gaps during PP.But he can rotate the strike well,also a better player of spin.Eventhough Raqibul played well he has to sacrifice his position for team's cause.
Many say Mahmudullah bowled badly but IMO he bowled ok.But he wasn't economical but he got a breakthrough.IMO both ASH & RIYAD are PP choices also they can bowl around 14-16 overs btw them with legspin & offspin which adds variety to the bowling attack.ASH is a player who can hit hard,pick gaps during PP he is a dangerous players if he gets going.
MY PATTERN WILL BE 4-1-2-2-2.
4 batsmans 1 genuine allrounder 2 allrounders 2 SLA's 2 pacers
Last but not least,the main thing which costs the game against IND is the 3rd WKT parternership btw SHEWAG & KOHLI.They rotated the strike very well,run a number of 2's,punished the bad deliveries to boundaries and they took the game away from us.I WANT THE BATSMENS TO PUT A SHOW LIKE THAT.
TAMIM promised he wants to be the top scorer in every match & he kept the promise in the very first match.Similarly SHAKIB promised that we will be able to beat any team other than the subcontinent teams. I want SHAKIB to fulfill the promise he made...
I finish here by saying the quote in one of our brothers profile said by Michael Jordan:"TALENT WINS GAME BUT TEAMWORK WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS"
INSHALLAH, ALLAH BLESS ALL OF US -Ameen

[Shakil_TX]

I don't think our batting is the issue here. We did not loose to India because of bad batting, we lost because our bowling was horrible guys. I think our batsmen did great by scoring 283 runs against a very strong team like India who in my opinion is one of the major contenders and actually may win this world cup. Our bowling was loose and below par at best. Our bowlers did not bowl at the right line and length and that allowed the Indian batsmen to post a mammoth total of 370. Our batsmen are not capable of scoring 371 runs against India, I think any of the top countries will have a hard time crossing that huge total of 370 against a very strong team like India. So I think we really need to concentrate on our bowling which I think was our weak link in our recent match against India. And lastly for God's sake please take the power play earlier when we have players in the middle set and batting well, please let's not wait too long to take our 2nd power play. We are just wasting and giving away our 2nd power play.

[bdtiger]

Waiting...

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by cricket_king
3 pacers and




Shuvo ahead of either Naeem or Mahmudullah IMO.

3 pacers against Ireland? We should play 2 pacers IMHO.
+1 for the second part

[simon]

good luck boys,win it and win it big.

[al Furqaan]

we should play the same XI...last chance for the non performers.

[Rinathq]

I have always said this that playing against India and playing 2 pacers where none of them being a fully fit Mashrafee Mortaza is impossible to win unless our batsmen pull a miracle. I really hope our coaches go with 2 pacers this time because its Ireland and not try to correct the mistake by putting a third pacer. That will be ANOTHER mistake. Naeem, Mahmudullah isnt doing anything with batting and little with bowling. So why not have a better bowler and same quality batsman?
so y squad would be,

Tamim
Imrul
Junayed
Shakib
Mushfiq
Nafees
Raqibul
Shuvo
Razzaq
Shafiul
Rubel

Exactly 5 bowlers but good ones. If we have to think about bowling 50 overs and vareity attack against Ireland, i dunt see why we are hoping for next round. Solid batting attack, stronger bowling attack....

[Roni_uk]

Just saw Mashrafee's interview in cover drive prog of NTV. Bulbul (ex captain) asked him to take initiative and give the pacers some tips. Mashrafee agreed to do so. Apparently he has been telling Bulbul during yesterday's match about how Shafiul and Rubel should bowl to Tendulkar, Sehwag etc. .. well he was missed.

We need to beat Ireland by huge margin to get the NRR up.

[Shehwar]

We must not take The Irish team lightly and yes SN could be a big help against them.

[ialbd]

Bismillah.... this is a big game for us given the position we are in....

cant wait for 25th....

[firstlane]

Originally Posted by ahms
India shook our bowler's confidence. They need regrouping and start back again keeping basic right. Batsman should not relax either, they need to do their homework. India showed the way how to bat. Anything less than demoralizing performance against Ireland is not accepted.

Tigers need to roar which can be heard in all four corners, from Dhaka to Delhi, Chittagong to Colombo.

Ireland will be infront of the wound tigers on February 25. By saying wound tigers i dont mean 11, they will face 25-30 thousands wound roaring tigers. I am afraid Irish players will get chills down their spines, there is no escaspe from that.