Why do our players go full retard sometimes?

[MHRAM]

I still cannot comprehend how our senior players like Mushfiq, Riad and Shakib have played so far in this match so far

Just right now Mushy got out playing a poor shot after scoring a boundary. And the very next ball Riad tries to give his wicket away too.

Why does it happen to our senior players? I mean these are players with 50 test match experience. Even Tamim Iqbal is more responsible(in tests) but our middle order batsman aren't

[Kohli_Sox]

They are just stupid

[Eclipse]

Million dollar question.

[Yankees]

They have no incentive to change or get better. They know they won't be dropped and they are the envy of their fellow countryman. So why try harder? It's also our cultural mindset to take the road of least resistance. "Eto kosto korar ki dorkar bhai?"

[Roey Haque]

^ LOL. Has some truth.

[horizon]

At least not due to lack of experience.

[NoName]

Our players can't tell when they're being setup even if God told them!

The fans know, the viewers know, the commies know, heck even ball boy knows when/how the batsmen is being setup but our players? Nope! They going to still play the shot the opposition wants them to!

[Mas_UK25]

Just saw the scorecard, didn't see match 5th day from the start. Mahmudullah got a 50 but couldn't kick on for a ton as usual (but a 50 in 149 balls isa very good effort nonetheless, credit where it's due), Sakib, Mushy, Sabbir got starts, but none of them went on to score big.

Just watching the match live now, seeing how Mehdi and Rabbi defending it nicely, day 5, isn't exactly turning square (not to say it won't but based on what I seen live so far).So had the "seniors" applied better, dug dig who's knows what could have happened.
I'm actually disappointed with the top order first innings none them clicked to score big, openers and number 3, Riyad!

Just wonder. Why and how the seniors keep making a good start into nothing big most times! They don't seem to have to ability to be hungry to always keep scoring, especially when you got a good solid start on a still (despite day 5th) goodish batting wicket.

[NoName]

^ The bro-in-laws went for aerial shots else we'd be in the perfect position

[Yankees]

^ can't tell if you are talking about this match or T20 WC. Heard it way too many times....

[NoName]

Taijul deserves the Master Moron Award

[horizon]

Kapildev was dropped from Indian team for playing such shot. That was the only time he was dropped. Bangladesh selectors need to be a bit bold here ...

Kapil had been dismissed while trying to play an extravagant stroke off Pat Pocock on Day Five in the third Test at the Kotla, when the hosts were fighting to save the Test. India went on to lose that Test and the result allowed England, considered underdogs, to script a fairytale series win. In a move aimed at disciplining the allrounder for playing that stroke, the selectors dropped Kapil for the following Test at the Eden Gardens.

[Mas_UK25]

^ I agree. BD needs to be bold and stump this reckless shots out from some players. Drop, a big name, for playing like that, sends message out clearly.

The way Shakib in the first innings. 2nd innings; Riyad, Mushy, Taijul (who isn't a batsmen but that shot is a disgrace). it's just not on, on the time. and don't give us the ''they are humans'' thing. Humans make mistakes yes, but these reckless, out the blue, risky shots, is in a repeat mode every innings at test.

[Rana Melb]

Because they do not have proper education and their cognitive development haven't happened much. So unable to assess situation and keep playing like dumbass

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by Mas_UK25
^ I agree. BD needs to be bold and stump this reckless shots out from some players. Drop, a big name, for playing like that, sends message out clearly.

The way Shakib in the first innings. 2nd innings; Riyad, Mushy, Taijul (who isn't a batsmen but that shot is a disgrace). it's just not on, on the time. and don't give us the ''they are humans'' thing. Humans make mistakes yes, but these reckless, out the blue, risky shots, is in a repeat mode every innings at test.

But you can't punish Shakib for first innings cause that's how he got runs, if he got out like that in 2nd or like he did vs NZ, then yh sure. He needs to cut that crap out in the second innings when trying to save a test match, but he needs to be free when he's batting on first

Mushfiq had to keep for 200 overs, Captain and made a hundred... He is bound to be mentally tired

Mahmadullah is a bum, didn't expect more, should be dropped

Taijul should have followed suit to rabbi, even taskin had the right mentality

Tamim needs to figure out gears 2 and 3, he's either on 1 or 5, on the rare occasions he's on 4 it's a great treat to watch, that's what warner does better than him, most people on here seem to suggest he never throws it away, which isn't true he does, but Warner always plays on gear 4 or 5 when he is free to do so he never gets bogged down playing a 1 or 2, lowest he goes is a 3, but tamim plays for bangladesh not Australia so he needs to learn to consistently play on a 3

[PoorFan]

Tamim, Mushi, Shakib, Mullah are just 2nd generation of our [somewhat proper] cricket culture, it would take time to find real world class test cricket players in Bangladesh, its a developping process of test cricket culture, wont happen within a generation or two. This is how I convince my poor soul when BD plays test cricket home and away.

[adamnsu]

When the senior players of the Bashar/Pilot era left who were more or less level headed kept the polapines like Tamim/Shakib/Mushfiq in check.

Now the polapines have becomes the seniors by age, but mentality they are still polapines. They dont seem to be too keen on physical fitness, have large egos and make it clear to everyone that they give a rats a$$ to what others think as they know their place is cemented in team.

Sorry for the use of crude words but thats the only explanation I can come up with.

[horizon]

Originally Posted by tiger1000
But you can't punish Shakib for first innings cause that's how he got runs, if he got out like that in 2nd or like he did vs NZ, then yh sure. He needs to cut that crap out in the second innings when trying to save a test match, but he needs to be free when he's batting on first

Mushfiq had to keep for 200 overs, Captain and made a hundred... He is bound to be mentally tired

Mahmadullah is a bum, didn't expect more, should be dropped

Taijul should have followed suit to rabbi, even taskin had the right mentality

Tamim needs to figure out gears 2 and 3, he's either on 1 or 5, on the rare occasions he's on 4 it's a great treat to watch, that's what warner does better than him, most people on here seem to suggest he never throws it away, which isn't true he does, but Warner always plays on gear 4 or 5 when he is free to do so he never gets bogged down playing a 1 or 2, lowest he goes is a 3, but tamim plays for bangladesh not Australia so he needs to learn to consistently play on a 3

In 1984 Kapil was a god in India. He won the World Cup in 1983 that propelled cricket in India. If India can drop Kapil in 1984, Bangladesh can drop Shakib. Instead, Shakib comes out and says in public that he would continue to play his natural game forever. I feel like he's not only getting it wrong, he's sending wrong signal to the budding cricketers. "Natural game" argument doesn't work when you have play Test cricket. If he's right, then ABDV, who adjusts his game to according to the situation, looks fool.

[horizon]

মুশফিকের যুক্তি, ‘পরিকল্পনাটা ছিল আসলে ইতিবাচক থাকা। পঞ্চম দিনের উইকেট, যদিও আর দশটা পঞ্চম দিনের ভারতীয় উইকেট নয়। কিন্তু তার পরও উইকেটে ক্ষত ছিল। সেটাও কঠিন। তখন অনেক ফিল্ডার ঘিরে ছিল, অশ্বিন যদি একই লাইনে বোলিং করে যেতে থাকে, সে ভয়ংকর হয়ে উঠতে পারে। আমি চেয়েছি পায়ের ব্যবহার করতে। অশ্বিনের লাইন-লেংথ একটু এলোমেলো করে দিতে। শটটা খারাপ ছিল না। ঠিকভাবে কাজে লাগাতে পারিনি। কয়েক ওভার আগে জাদেজার অফ স্টাম্পের বাইরে বল রিভার্স সুইপ খেলেছি। ভালোভাবেই লেগেছিল ওটা। অশ্বিনেরটা ঠিকভাবে খেলতে পারিনি। বাউন্ডারি মারতে পারলে ফিল্ডার পিছিয়ে নিত ওরা। তখন সিঙ্গেল নেওয়া সহজ হতো। এটিই ছিল ভাবনা।’

Summary - the plan was to disrupt Ashwin's rhythm, that's why Mushfiq played that shot. He was expecting fielding would be spread after a few successful execution of those kind of shots and it would be easier to rotate strike.

I wonder who planned it this way!

[NoName]

Someone should ask why Taijul tried to go for a hero shot when Miraz and Kamrul showed a draw was a possibility when they started a blockathon.

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by horizon
In 1984 Kapil was a god in India. He won the World Cup in 1983 that propelled cricket in India. If India can drop Kapil in 1984, Bangladesh can drop Shakib. Instead, Shakib comes out and says in public that he would continue to play his natural game forever. I feel like he's not only getting it wrong, he's sending wrong signal to the budding cricketers. "Natural game" argument doesn't work when you have play Test cricket. If he's right, then ABDV, who adjusts his game to according to the situation, looks fool.

We play like 1 test match every 2 years, now that we've finally got a good run, dropping our best player is ridiculously poor idea

And he should keep playing his natural game in most situations, his wicket in first innings was fine, he made his runs playing like that. His wicket vs NZ in second innings was not, let's not also ignore the fact he got out to a very good ball and did not throw it away vs India second innings

And ab is on another level with bat in hand, got think if Shakib could pay defensive he wouldn't? Fact is he's technically lacking to be an all round great batsman

[Yankees]

Originally Posted by NoName
Someone should ask why Taijul tried to go for a hero shot when Miraz and Kamrul showed a draw was a possibility when they started a blockathon.

Give him a break. He was our best bowler and he's a tailender. He wouldn't have been in that position if our top order wasn't so pathetically incompetent.