Advertisements and Performance Trend

Isnaad · #1 March 26, 2011, 11:42 PM

I was very eager to open a thread regarding this and finally I got the time...
From what I ve observed, almost everyone who does take part in different advertisements or other aspects of the media acquires a downward trend in their performances. Examples-
M.S.Dhoni
Kevin Pietersen
Shakib Al Hasan
Mushfiqur Rahim
Tamim Iqbal
Habibul Bashar
and many more...
Exception-
Sachin Tendulkar
My point is, a cricketer's main job is to play cricket. If his focus is on other things as well, it can hamper his performance and can make it deteriorate.
What say?

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mac · #2 March 26, 2011, 11:47 PM

Can't agree. We want our cricketers to be professionals and its a part of being professional sportsman. But its kind of true that too much media attention and easy money have spoiled our kids.

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amar11432 · #3 March 26, 2011, 11:54 PM

Afridi? He does Ads but his performance didn't deteriorate.

Isnaad · #4 March 27, 2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by amar11432
Afridi? He does Ads but his performance didn't deteriorate.

Never saw his ads. Maybe he is an exception. By the way, hasn't his batting deteriorated a lot?
My general point is, we can look into this matter regarding the declining of performance.

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Isnaad · #5 March 27, 2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mac
Can't agree. We want our cricketers to be professionals and its a part of being professional sportsman. But its kind of true that too much media attention and easy money have spoiled our kids.

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Maybe our players aren't yet up to that level of professionalism to handle the media life that well....

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Ajfar · #6 March 27, 2011, 12:50 AM

Cricket player's career doesn't last for that long, so they have to make the most of whatever comes across their way. We have to remember that at the end of the day this is their occupation, this is how they make money. If anything I'd would think the endorsement's would bring the best out of them, considering the better you play the more deals/ or better deals will come across your way. There are plenty of reason's behind a player's off form, Advertisement deals alone can't a reason for them to deteriorate their form. Usually ads and stuff takes place outside the cricket field, they just take some time out of their time to do this sort of things, it shouldn't be a problem at all for a professional player to handle this little bit of pressure.

How did KP's performance go down? he scored a double hundred 2 months and won a Test match for England in Australia. He was promoted up the order after one of England's opener got injured, and he handled it quite well, and than got injured.

How did Mushy even make that list? For a player who average below 25, when was his performance ever so good that we can actually say it went down?

BANFAN · #7 March 27, 2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by amar11432
Afridi? He does Ads but his performance didn't deteriorate.

Afridi's performance was worse than Ash at some point, but Pakistan kept persisting with him. He is a match winner on his day.

al-Sagar · #8 March 27, 2011, 02:39 AM

advertisements are part of cricketers life. Advertisements cant be the main reason of a players bad performance.

almost all players are doing advertisements. as we mainly see indian channels we see indian players and some big international players like KP, Dilshan, Maliga now doing Pepsi. But if u look at the local channels of other countries u will find most AUS, SL, ENG, SA, WI are players are doing ads on their local/regional televisions promoting their products in media.

its the same in other sports too.

Ajfar · #9 March 27, 2011, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BANFAN
Afridi's performance was worse than Ash at some point, but Pakistan kept persisting with him. He is a match winner on his day.

Match winner on his day? He practically won them all the games in this world cup. When someone performs consistenly like that, he can be a match winner anyday not on his day. Do you know how many wickets he's got in this world cup?

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Raynman · #10 March 27, 2011, 08:38 AM

Could be something to look into. I'm guessing since any player that has not done advertisements has never seen his performance deteroriate, making commericals could be a bad thing.

We should take the 'professional' part out and just provide the basis needs (food, clothing, shelter) to the national team members. After they leave the team, they can figure out how to earn a living and take care of their families. While they are putting on the jersey they are on our time and our schedule. Any activity including marriage and even playing cricket that is not related to BD (IPL, County etc.) should be run past the fans to see if it can be admissible or not.

Then there is the crazy notion that making advertisements is a sign of a player having performed well and built a strong fan base and allowing advertisers to pour money into these players can be an incentive in itself for players to perform well, but thats just crazy because money is pure EVIL. These are young boys and they should not be allowed to make money. They can make money once they retire and utilize the skills they learned playing cricket in the corporate world.

Sovik · #11 March 27, 2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BANFAN
Afridi's performance was worse than Ash at some point, but Pakistan kept persisting with him. He is a match winner on his day.

He is doing what he should have been doing all along. Concentrate on his bowling. He has been a very good ODI bowler for last couple of years.

Raynman · #12 March 27, 2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sovik
He is doing what he should have been doing all along. Concentrate on his bowling. He has been a very good ODI bowler for last couple of years.

He himself admits to being a bowler first who can once in a while be handy with the bat. Afridi should not be relied on to win a match by bat. He can accelerate a good platform or demoralize the bowlers for a short stay at the crease but his main strength is the ball.

Shame as that is how Ashraful started out. But his debut test century and the two innings vs. AUS and SA made everyone force him to a top order batsman. I think we could have gotten a lot more out of him if he was handled differently.

simon · #13 March 27, 2011, 10:00 AM

Ash participating in too many tv programs with models like Tinni,Monalisa,Prova spoiled his performance level too.

BANFAN · #14 March 27, 2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sovik
He is doing what he should have been doing all along. Concentrate on his bowling. He has been a very good ODI bowler for last couple of years.

You are right, he has adjusted into his new role of a bowler very well. And he was given this time and opportunity to adjust to this role.

Isnaad · #15 March 28, 2011, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by simon
Ash participating in too many tv programs with models like Tinni,Monalisa,Prova spoiled his performance level too.

Ever checked on his 'spikes' (Not the jutar spike, spiked hair). No wonder he is more into media than his performance.
Maybe he danced lyk dat in the Ireland match to catch the attention of 'Bangla Cinema Directors!' xD

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Isnaad · #16 March 28, 2011, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Raynman
Could be something to look into. I'm guessing since any player that has not done advertisements has never seen his performance deteroriate, making commericals could be a bad thing.

We should take the 'professional' part out and just provide the basis needs (food, clothing, shelter) to the national team members. After they leave the team, they can figure out how to earn a living and take care of their families. While they are putting on the jersey they are on our time and our schedule. Any activity including marriage and even playing cricket that is not related to BD (IPL, County etc.) should be run past the fans to see if it can be admissible or not.

Then there is the crazy notion that making advertisements is a sign of a player having performed well and built a strong fan base and allowing advertisers to pour money into these players can be an incentive in itself for players to perform well, but thats just crazy because money is pure EVIL. These are young boys and they should not be allowed to make money. They can make money once they retire and utilize the skills they learned playing cricket in the corporate world.

Yes, i agree...just lyk the cadets in the armed forces.

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Isnaad · #17 March 28, 2011, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by offstump
advertisements are part of cricketers life. Advertisements cant be the main reason of a players bad performance.

almost all players are doing advertisements. as we mainly see indian channels we see indian players and some big international players like KP, Dilshan, Maliga now doing Pepsi. But if u look at the local channels of other countries u will find most AUS, SL, ENG, SA, WI are players are doing ads on their local/regional televisions promoting their products in media.

its the same in other sports too.

Ofcourse it is not the main reason. I just pointed out the fact that it could be 'one of them'!

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Isnaad · #18 March 28, 2011, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bangladesh_sy
Cricket player's career doesn't last for that long, so they have to make the most of whatever comes across their way. We have to remember that at the end of the day this is their occupation, this is how they make money. If anything I'd would think the endorsement's would bring the best out of them, considering the better you play the more deals/ or better deals will come across your way. There are plenty of reason's behind a player's off form, Advertisement deals alone can't a reason for them to deteriorate their form. Usually ads and stuff takes place outside the cricket field, they just take some time out of their time to do this sort of things, it shouldn't be a problem at all for a professional player to handle this little bit of pressure.

How did KP's performance go down? he scored a double hundred 2 months and won a Test match for England in Australia. He was promoted up the order after one of England's opener got injured, and he handled it quite well, and than got injured.

How did Mushy even make that list? For a player who average below 25, when was his performance ever so good that we can actually say it went down?

Mushy did ok in 2010. But just after he did the ad of my one tv (one of the worst ads i ve evr seen!) his performance boomed down as if, he is a keeper only and cant bat at all...!

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_Rafi_ · #19 March 28, 2011, 04:00 AM

Mushfiqur has done C grade ads of a C grade television and become a C grade cricketer. Thats called Advertisement and Performence Trend.

Isnaad · #20 March 28, 2011, 04:17 AM

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Mushfiqur has done C grade ads of a C grade television and become a C grade cricketer. Thats called Advertisement and Performence Trend.

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Sohel · #21 March 28, 2011, 04:19 AM

Dhoni's in simply too many ads. He is no Sachin yet and who's to say all that posin' & smilin' ain't affecting his battin'?

al-Sagar · #22 March 28, 2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Isnaad
Ofcourse it is not the main reason. I just pointed out the fact that it could be 'one of them'!

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i could be and again it could not be.

reyme · #23 March 28, 2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BANFAN
You are right, he has adjusted into his new role of a bowler very well. And he was given this time and opportunity to adjust to this role.

A huge credit goes to one of the greatest spinner of all time Abdul Qadir! Is there anyway we can get Abdul Qadir as our Spin Bowling coach?

Isnaad · #24 March 28, 2011, 10:31 PM

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A huge credit goes to one of the greatest spinner of all time Abdul Qadir! Is there anyway we can get Abdul Qadir as our Spin Bowling coach?

Talk with BCB...

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Direct-Hit · #25 March 29, 2011, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Isnaad
I was very eager to open a thread regarding this and finally I got the time...
From what I ve observed, almost everyone who does take part in different advertisements or other aspects of the media acquires a downward trend in their performances. Examples-
M.S.Dhoni
Kevin Pietersen
Shakib Al Hasan
Mushfiqur Rahim
Tamim Iqbal
Habibul Bashar
and many more...
Exception-
Sachin Tendulkar
My point is, a cricketer's main job is to play cricket. If his focus is on other things as well, it can hamper his performance and can make it deteriorate.
What say?

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Very interesting thread.
I can add to this a first hand experience from the West Indies.
During the last 10 years Pepsi has sponsored (used for advertising purposes) various WI cricketers. It has almost become an urban myth in the region that signing a Pepsi contract almost always means a huge drop off in performance. So much so, that players are almost loath to do it, just in case the myth is true ! (however I can personally verify that lots of WI Pepsi linked players inevitably end up getting dropped due to poor / under performance / other reasons)

The only logical (unsuperstitious) reason is that unless a player has a really high work ethic, sponsorship contracts tend to give the player an air of "Hey I've made it, cos I am paid to advertise products"

Draw your own conclusions !