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Old September 8, 2014, 03:27 AM
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Default 'Did I really not contribute for my country?' - Razzak

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Abdur Razzak, the Bangladesh left-arm spinner, has hit out at sections of the media for their excessive criticism following a slump in his form this year. Razzak, who is Bangladesh's leading wicket-taker in ODIs, has taken only three wickets in six games this year at an average of 112.33 and an economy rate of 6.24. Across formats, in 13 games this year, Razzak has taken only eight wickets.
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Old September 8, 2014, 03:39 AM
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every player gets criticism when in poor form, but he's been in a prolonged form slump so it should not be a surprise for him, talk with your bowling not your mouth.

as far as contributing to BD cricket, of course he has contributed a lot but just because you are highest wicket taker doesn't mean you get a free pass, you still have to perform now. besides mash if he didn't get injured so often probably would be leading wicket taker and shakib will most likely surpass razzak in the future.

also he's been horrible in tests and that's the format the rest of the world (bar possibly india) truly rate players.
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Old September 8, 2014, 06:52 AM
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Razzak is someone who could have been a lot more effective if he maintained a line on or about off stump. Years go by and we see the same crap line on leg stump. Makes me wonder if he ever goes back to watch his own bowling and see where the batsman are scoring off his freebies.
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Old September 8, 2014, 07:32 AM
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putputami ovimani outburst..this is professional cricket please act professionally..there is a reason media criticizes about recent form. Past glories and fame don't count if you can't sustain the success. He served us great as spinner nobody is questioning about this but he has to understand his off form and work hard otherwise it would be tough to keep place.
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Old September 8, 2014, 07:48 AM
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I hate these types of "nekami" talk. That's the problem for us. We love to live so much on past glory that we forget to live the present. Raj is the highest wicket taker for bd. I get that. But now he is no better than a street cricketer and should have the guts to face criticism.

Want us to shut our mouths? Improve Your game or just retire..
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Old September 8, 2014, 08:00 AM
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day by day Razzaq is just proving himself as a very dumb/dull person, no wonder why he hasn't improved after so many years of experience.
As a senior person he should have accepted these criticisms & proved himself with his bowling and later on if he really had any complaints about media then have a go.
This is just not the right moment.
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Old September 8, 2014, 08:09 AM
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Makes me wonder if he ever goes back to watch his own bowling and see where the batsman are scoring off his freebies.
None of our bowlers do that. Not even Shakib. That's the reason their bowling never improved. They are always same.

They do things when they are told to do so. They never do anything on their own unlike their neighbors.
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Old September 8, 2014, 08:31 AM
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Coach should be going through footage with the player so even if they aren't doing it themselves they should be watching it with the coach and getting feedback. Razzak's attitude is why I keep saying the cricket culture isn't right in BD, there's just no real desire or commitment to improve, instead there is just an excuse, and at this level that won't get you anywhere.
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Old September 8, 2014, 08:40 AM
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Coach should be going through footage with the player so even if they aren't doing it themselves they should be watching it with the coach and getting feedback. Razzak's attitude is why I keep saying the cricket culture isn't right in BD, there's just no real desire or commitment to improve, instead there is just an excuse, and at this level that won't get you anywhere.
what do you mean by he does not have commitment to improve? We always do this. If a player is not playing well we blame his commitment.

this is his livelihood. Razzak has repeatedly said over last year that the spinners are not getting the type of support they need. 2012 was the best year even for the spinners.

in last three years we have had spinners who were all one series wonders. They could not repeat their success not because they are not good. It is because the oppositions have all worked them out. And our spinners have not got the technical support they need to overcome the challenge.
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Old September 8, 2014, 08:44 AM
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what do you mean by he does not have commitment to improve? We always do this. If a player is not playing well we blame his commitment.

this is his livelihood. Razzak has repeatedly said over last year that the spinners are not getting the type of support they need. 2012 was the best year even for the spinners.

in last three years we have had spinners who were all one series wonders. They could not repeat their success not because they are not good. It is because the oppositions have all worked them out. And our spinners have not got the technical support they need to overcome the challenge.
Razzak has been around to long to blame poor performance on coach, does he really need a coach to tell him not to bowl down leg side? At his age and experience he should know his game inside and out.
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Old September 8, 2014, 08:45 AM
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The coaches recent comments prove their lack of commitment like needing to be told or made to practice for more than 10 minutes, it's absolutely ridiculous.
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Old September 8, 2014, 11:11 AM
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Trash talks.
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Old September 8, 2014, 11:17 AM
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Typical Bangladeshi cricketer - wants to keep riding on past glory
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Old September 8, 2014, 11:27 AM
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I just hope he pulls off a raqibul hasan and retire. His best has been long gone.
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Old September 8, 2014, 02:52 PM
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Razzak has been around to long to blame poor performance on coach, does he really need a coach to tell him not to bowl down leg side? At his age and experience he should know his game inside and out.
Funny part is he does. And it is not because he does not know what to do, or does not understand the game. Most of the time these are finer details that differentiate. Moreover, a good coach can still teach our players tricks, who sadly have never got the proper training. And that includes Shakib Al Hasan and Tamim Iqbal, unarguably the best players we have produced after the test status. (Rafiq, Bashar, etc were already playing for a while)

Even Murali had to fix his action after reported for chucking. Now you can say that at this stage did he really needed a coach to fix his action. I saw him firing down the leg side and get caught behind a number of times. May be a tiny adjustment needs to make. Some body has analyze the way he is playing and tell him this is where you are doing something slightly incorrect.
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Old September 8, 2014, 02:56 PM
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Instead of helping him, we are hating on him. There is not a single replacement right now. Pure and simple. All the recent spin wonders of Bangladesh have been one series wonder. As soon as the opposition work them out, they are useless. Razzak has gone through this for 8-10 years now already. He ought to continue to play and should get the right support he needs to fix the finer points of the game.
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Old September 8, 2014, 05:01 PM
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and now days razzak can't take any wickets
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Old September 8, 2014, 05:04 PM
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Funny part is he does. And it is not because he does not know what to do, or does not understand the game. Most of the time these are finer details that differentiate. Moreover, a good coach can still teach our players tricks, who sadly have never got the proper training. And that includes Shakib Al Hasan and Tamim Iqbal, unarguably the best players we have produced after the test status. (Rafiq, Bashar, etc were already playing for a while)

Even Murali had to fix his action after reported for chucking. Now you can say that at this stage did he really needed a coach to fix his action. I saw him firing down the leg side and get caught behind a number of times. May be a tiny adjustment needs to make. Some body has analyze the way he is playing and tell him this is where you are doing something slightly incorrect.
the point is after all these years he should know what to do, he's had good coaches in the national team, not the coaches fault he doesn't learn. changing an action is different, it's a much bigger challenge than the normal ones a player has to face. bar the action thing everything you say yes the coach can help with but razzak should be knowledgeable and proactive enough to not need the coach if the coach is doing something else.

i'm sick of the coaches being blamed, so many coaches, never the players fault just the coaches (well i think this mentality on the forum with this has changed now but the coach use to get the majority of the blame).
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Old September 8, 2014, 05:24 PM
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People such as Salahuddin are still around. Why don't Abdur Razzak go seek him out, if he needs help? He needs to realize fans' criticism of him are justified and that he is nothing but being a burden on the team right now. This kind emotional statement won't help him.
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Old September 8, 2014, 08:04 PM
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Blame goes to the selectors as well.
Why keep picking him if he is useless.
We just love to pass the buck.
BCB has no real plan in place to replace the older generation. They setup players to fail. If he is not cutting it anymore, bring someone who will.
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Old September 8, 2014, 10:22 PM
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the point is after all these years he should know what to do, he's had good coaches in the national team, not the coaches fault he doesn't learn. changing an action is different, it's a much bigger challenge than the normal ones a player has to face. bar the action thing everything you say yes the coach can help with but razzak should be knowledgeable and proactive enough to not need the coach if the coach is doing something else.

i'm sick of the coaches being blamed, so many coaches, never the players fault just the coaches (well i think this mentality on the forum with this has changed now but the coach use to get the majority of the blame).
I never said the coaches are at fault. It is rather the lack of it.

and it hardly matters what this posters here think. I will continue to say what.

after the test status, it took a long time to stop the musical chair to b terns of selection. We borrow gan to see the fruit of it in 2010-2012. But now we are back to that. One has to remember we do nor have an azmal waiting in the bench tl be picked instead of razzak
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Old September 8, 2014, 10:24 PM
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People such as Salahuddin are still around. Why don't Abdur Razzak go seek him out, if he needs help? He needs to realize fans' criticism of him are justified and that he is nothing but being a burden on the team right now. This kind emotional statement won't help him.
I agree that the emotional statements do not help. But we have always had the culture of not supporting a player when he is in the wrong side of 30. That even happened to rafiq and Enamul haque
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Old September 8, 2014, 11:17 PM
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It's not about being 30+ it's about him whinging about valid criticism and here we are trying to find a reason why razzak's long term poor form isn't his own responsibility.

Razzak has experienced quality coaching his whole international career I disagree that there is a lack of coaching.

Players have to take responsibility of their own career, coaches are there to help not do it all for you or make excuses for you either.
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Old September 8, 2014, 11:31 PM
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Agree selectors are also to blame, who's going to turn down selection? Selectors are the ones who have to take him out of the equation if he's not up to the task (which he hasn't been for awhile now).

Some players might say they are standing down until they fix certain things but not many and we can't expect that.
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Old September 8, 2014, 11:37 PM
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what a cry baby.... shows why we falter in test cricket or in any competetive situation....

these guys have mental strengh of a 5 year old....

they dont make bangalees like they used to anymore..... tough, real fighter, flood, famine, war survivors.....

now we get bunch of sissies cry over every little thing.....



i am gonna use this example of brazil vs german 1-7 trashing for every mental toughness example..... u cry all day...this is what happens.....

stop playing competetive sports and boshe boshe feeder e dudu khao....
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