Match Thread: 2nd ODI, New Zealand vs. Bangladesh at Dunedin, NZ; February 08, 2010

[Nadim]

BD vs NZ ODI 2 - 2 days 06 hr. 44 min. 02 sec.

Isn't it 1 day, 6 hrs and 44 mins left??

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2nd ODI: New Zealand v Bangladesh at Dunedin
Feb 8 (12:00 local, 23:00 GMT)

[Ashfaq]

Originally Posted by shuziburo
Australia and NZ used to be classy sides. But, the days of Ian Chappell and Glen Turner are sure gone. I cannot stand the Australia and the NZ teams of the current days. Both teams have good players, but are classless. Money is partly responsible. But, that cannot be the only reason. There still are classy world-beaters in other teams.

What Vettoti and Co. did to our batters is now a recognized part of the game. If our batsmen are not professional enough to reign in their blood lust, that doesn't mean the opponent is a class-less butch. That's as lame as lame excuses go.

I don't know how you can hate the NZ players. They are one of the most commited sides of modern cricket. It's always uplifting to see a Vettori and a Southee annihilate the so called big names.

[One World]

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[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Beamer
My line up

1. Tamim 2 Imrul 3 Sakib 4 Riyad 5 Ash 6 Aftab 7 Nayeem 8 Rahim 9 Rajib 10 Shafi 11 Rubel.

can't argue with that...although eshen keeps pumping out impressive numbers for ash at 3, i get the feeling he's going to start the rot every time. though he looked impeccable in the tri series (except last game).

[nycpro96]

shakib should try 1st down. see what happens. he's batted there before

[Rifat]

Originally Posted by rafi_mc69
MMW- We are going to win this match.

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[nafees_mashrafee]

i believe a collapse could be prevented by just adjusting the batting lineup a little bit. mushfiq and mahmudullah can handle pressure much better than ashraful and out of form raqibul. also, Shakib must, must, must get his batting form back before he becomes the new ashraful.

batting lineup to prevent a batting collpase (it is worth the try and i'm the result won't be any worse than the first ODI):

1) tamim
2) imrul
3) mushfiq (will negotiate the middle overs)
4) mahmudullah (will negotiate the middle overs)
5) Raqibul (will negotiate the middle overs when pressure is less and ball is a bit older)
6) Shakib (play a few overs and have a crack at powerplay)
7) Ashraful (just play your natural game during powerplay or final 10 overs)
8) Nayeem (same as ashraful)
9) shahadat
10) nazmul/rubel
11) shafiul

[Purbasha T]

Ok, can there be no policy or something that no two type of grafters can be at the crease at the same time? Like no two of - Mushy, Ash (in the current form? oooh yes, oohhh gulli yes) and Raqibul at the same time. Always the next batsmen coming in needs to be sent making sure of that combination. So that at least one person is there to score runs at good rate, and the other one, if not able to do that, just rotate strike. Now the problem is just rotating the strike is a big problem for some of our batsmen.

No idea if this makes sense, just came onto my mind and I brought it out. But to be honest, something needs to be done with the batting order. It's not a one-off collapse that we're talking about. It's match after match. Even in tri-series, most of the matches had mini-collapses. Surely some shuffling would help. I don't mind how, just any. At least trying something different has a chance greater than the one we currently have has.

[view360]

How wise it is to send players to bat when they are struggling to find form ? They will try to stay with 20% strike rates and get themselves out after playing 15 balls. An international match is not a place to find forms. There is NCL for that purpose. We can and should select only players with good forms for the national side. When one player is struggling with his form on one end , this puts pressures on the other batsmen.

[bangla-red]

Originally Posted by nafees_mashrafee
i believe a collapse could be prevented by just adjusting the batting lineup a little bit. mushfiq and mahmudullah can handle pressure much better than ashraful and out of form raqibul. also, Shakib must, must, must get his batting form back before he becomes the new ashraful.

batting lineup to prevent a batting collpase (it is worth the try and i'm the result won't be any worse than the first ODI):

1) tamim
2) imrul
3) mushfiq (will negotiate the middle overs)
4) mahmudullah (will negotiate the middle overs)
5) Raqibul (will negotiate the middle overs when pressure is less and ball is a bit older)
6) Shakib (play a few overs and have a crack at powerplay)
7) Ashraful (just play your natural game during powerplay or final 10 overs)
8) Nayeem (same as ashraful)
9) shahadat
10) nazmul/rubel
11) shafiul

You're basically saying that our top 5 will last 40 overs... ambitious.

[sadi]

I think this is should be our lineup for tomorrow's game:

Tamim
Imrul
Mushfiq
Mahmudullah
Naeem
Shakib
Ashraful
Aftab
Shahadat
Shafiul
Rubel

Mahmudullah and Naeem should bat up the order since they can build up the innings. Ashraful and Aftab can play their crazy shots at the end if necessary!!

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Beamer
My line up

1. Tamim 2 Imrul 3 Sakib 4 Riyad 5 Ash 6 Aftab 7 Nayeem 8 Rahim 9 Rajib 10 Shafi 11 Rubel.

Mine too.

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by sadi
I think this is should be our lineup for tomorrow's game:

Tamim
Imrul
Mushfiq
Mahmudullah
Naeem
Shakib
Ashraful
Aftab
Shahadat
Shafiul
Rubel

Mahmudullah and Naeem should bat up the order since they can build up the innings. Ashraful and Aftab can play their crazy shots at the end if necessary!!

Well, this line-up looks good too!

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by Siraji
What Vettoti and Co. did to our batters is now a recognized part of the game. If our batsmen are not professional enough to reign in their blood lust, that doesn't mean the opponent is a class-less butch. That's as lame as lame excuses go.

I don't know how you can hate the NZ players. They are one of the most commited sides of modern cricket. It's always uplifting to see a Vettori and a Southee annihilate the so called big names.

Just because something is commonplace does not mean that it is right. It is partly ICC's fault to allow this to happen. Taunting is heavily penalized in many games, even in the US. However, if your opponents are classless, you can beat them without becoming one. (And yes, Australia and NZ are classless sides.) That is what our players need to learn. They will have to ignore Vettori and Co. I will continue to hate these bullies and thugs.

Vettori annihilating so called big names? I hate to break it to you, but Vettori is a big name. Apparently, look at things differently and I can live with that.

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by Purbasha T
Ok, can there be no policy or something that no two type of grafters can be at the crease at the same time? Like no two of - Mushy, Ash (in the current form? oooh yes, oohhh gulli yes) and Raqibul at the same time. Always the next batsmen coming in needs to be sent making sure of that combination. So that at least one person is there to score runs at good rate, and the other one, if not able to do that, just rotate strike. Now the problem is just rotating the strike is a big problem for some of our batsmen.

No idea if this makes sense, just came onto my mind and I brought it out. But to be honest, something needs to be done with the batting order. It's not a one-off collapse that we're talking about. It's match after match. Even in tri-series, most of the matches had mini-collapses. Surely some shuffling would help. I don't mind how, just any. At least trying something different has a chance greater than the one we currently have has.

These days I am afraid whenever a good partnership develops. I know whenever it breaks, there will be a landslide.

[Rommel]

Is the countdown right? I could have sworn the match is tomorrow...

[FaHiMa]

Originally Posted by sadi
I think this is should be our lineup for tomorrow's game:

Tamim
Imrul
Mushfiq
Mahmudullah
Naeem
Shakib
Ashraful
Aftab
Shahadat
Shafiul
Rubel

Mahmudullah and Naeem should bat up the order since they can build up the innings. Ashraful and Aftab can play their crazy shots at the end if necessary!!

like the lineup but
i say switch imrul with junaed! is taking a risk with imrul worth it?? plus junaed and tamim seem to work well together.

[FaHiMa]

Originally Posted by Rommel
Is the countdown right? I could have sworn the match is tomorrow...

i dont think so //... for GMT and EST its tomorrow...
GMT - 23:00 sunday
EST - 6:00 ? sunday ...
NZT- 12:00 monday

i think ...lol

[nycpro96]

Originally Posted by Rommel
Is the countdown right? I could have sworn the match is tomorrow...

I'm pretty sure its wrong. We should be able to watch it at 6 PM tomorrow

[beshideshi]

Ash should drop from no.3. I dont know what secret JS knows, but from what I have seen, Ash is much better suited when the ball is a bit older. I believe Ash should come in at no.5. Statistically that is his best spot.
I say have this batting order
Tamim
Imrul
Mushfique
Raqib
Ash
Shakib
Riyad
Nayeem
Shahadat
Shafiul
rubel/nazmul/razzak/chokmokh shen

Often we have seen BD losing unnecessary wickets after the openers get out, denying the lower/middle order a launch pad to really take off. My point is, if Raqib/Mushy can bat upto the 30th over, with the score at 120-130/3. The team will have tremendous launching pad and will allow Shakib/Ash to play their game.
just my thoughts.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Every day of play in this tour starts right before a weekday. Shu-hucks.

[taklima_naj]

Originally Posted by sadi
I think this is should be our lineup for tomorrow's game:

Tamim
Imrul
Mushfiq
Mahmudullah
Naeem
Shakib
Ashraful
Aftab
Shahadat
Shafiul
Rubel

Mahmudullah and Naeem should bat up the order since they can build up the innings. Ashraful and Aftab can play their crazy shots at the end if necessary!!

I like this lineup but will siddons understand that, i dont think so

[billah]

Originally Posted by wiseshah
my new line up


tamim
Imrul kayes
mushfiq
mahmudullah
naeem
aftab
sakib
ashraful
shahadat
shafiul
rubel

I like this order, except, would like to see Riyadh at one down, not Mushfiq. #3 position is too important and Mahmudullah has, I think, the right temperament. All the top teams in the world have always had their strong batsmen at # 3. Viv Richards, Zaheer Abbas and Dravid to name a few. And yes, if for any reason, this # 3 fails, we will need Mushfiq to stop a collapse. Shakib is just playing chance game with his batting these days.

[zainab]

last match Mccallum and Guptill did not wreak havoc. I dont think we will see the same scenario next match. These two will score runs this time, NZ bat very deep and Oram, the demolition man is there with the batting powerplay. he killed Bangaldesh. I felt sorry for the poor bowlers, they had no clue how to bowl to him and he challenged them all the time. Let's hope that BD can restrict them to less than 300 runs if they bat first, and if BD bats first, for heaven's do not repeat what happened in 2008., bowled out for less than 100 runs, with Mccallum finishing the match in less 10 overs. they should think about the spectators who paid money to watch a 50 over match.