Fire the fielding coach!!!

[mij]

Originally Posted by MarufH
There are three options selectors should consider.

1. Dhiman
2. Jahurul
3. Amanul

Any one of them will do better job than Mushy. He should concentrate on batting and captaincy.

I am with you. Selector what a waste. Do we really need selector's?

[Naimul_Hd]

Fire the fielding all coaches !!!

We can play better than this without any coaches around.

[patriot]

Only in BD you would throw away gold and replace that with cheap imitation jewellery.

[Nadim]

I badly Miss Salauddin. he couldn't have done any worse. Plus, he used to have some EXTRA NET session with our batsman, which benefited alot for TAMIM, Junaid and many more. Seems like they are missing him. I say Bring him back. Sack the rest.


No wonder why S.Imran quit from A team. bcb pay huge amount of money for foreign coaches but when it comes to improvement, then they seems to do worse than deshi coaches. So why pay less to deshi coaches?

[Direct-Hit]

LBW103 for BCB president, no better still, for Prime Minister.

The first thing I do when I come onto the forum is to check what LBW103 has posted, and then see how many people are consequently upset by it. You make my day LBW103. I salute you. (JF)
ps I loved your previous signature !

[Fazal]

Ah hah.

We had that suspicion, but slowly .... it all makes more sense.

[simon]

ar koto golagoli korbo, ar koto rokto boibey.

[munnabhai]

Stuart Law and his crew needs to be kicked out. Under Fountain we hardly dropped catches but then again we had better fielders like Naeem over Riyadh, Shuvo over Rabiul, Rubel and Shafiul over Shahadat and Junaid who was an excellent slip fielder, is way better than Mofees.

[Fazal]

The Captain lead in the field and set the standard. When the captain himself is below par in his primary role i.e. wicket keeping, its natural things will fall apart during fielding.

Plus as Munna Bhai MBBS mentioned, we replaced players in the team (some of them for performance reason) with worse fielders.

Plus except for limited Fountain era, our fiedling was always bad. In that aspect it tells us Fielding Coacj can indeed make a quick impact, and Fountain era was an exception than a norm in Bangladesh cricket (for whatever reason it might be).

[roman]

I miss Pont and Fountain

I heard that BCB will be free from any political influence pretty soon. Cant wait for it.

[MSM B2C]

Only Indian Fans have the power to come togerther UNITED to get RIDE of anyone whether it is The Head Coach, The So called Captain... They are more UNITED then us BANGLADESHIS. WE Bangladeshi fans are only good for talking and bragging... If those things happend in INDIA, I guess the indian crowd will go super mad and crash everything, I mean its not right. But common they have power to do something. We bangladesh cricket are useless for nofthing and same goes for US Fans... No one gives a damn!!!! I just feel so sad that we dont have no right although we pay the money to see this lasy bunch of players ran by donkeyss!

[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by roman
I heard that BCB will be free from any political influence pretty soon. Cant wait for it.

this cant happen in bangladesh..i dont have high hope

[Fazal]

Originally Posted by MSM B2C
Only Indian Fans have the power to come togerther UNITED to get RIDE of anyone whether it is The Head Coach, The So called Captain... They are more UNITED then us BANGLADESHIS. WE Bangladeshi fans are only good for talking and bragging... If those things happend in INDIA, I guess the indian crowd will go super mad and crash everything, I mean its not right. But common they have power to do something. We bangladesh cricket are useless for nofthing and same goes for US Fans... No one gives a damn!!!! I just feel so sad that we dont have no right although we pay the money to see this lasy bunch of players ran by donkeyss!

So what you suggest? We crash everything? As if cricket is not a sports but it's out life and death?

Thanks ... but no thanks... I love cricket, but I don't want cricket take full contol of my life to tha point that I cannot lead my life beyond cricket.

[MSM B2C]

Originally Posted by Fazal
So what you suggest? We crash everything? As if cricket is not a sports but it's out life and death?

Thanks ... but no thanks... I love cricket, but I don't want cricket take full contol of my life to tha point that I cannot lead my life beyond cricket.

thats exactly a typical bengali fans thinking we will remain in the same spot as long as we have fans like yourself and me.. we are typical... we tend not to look for things that will improve our cricket. We talk and try to find ways of avoiding things, we are bengalis. Then we end up BASHING players and blaming management and etc... why and who, this and that lol... You should check indian forum how they are, there analitical skills are very positive. Did the fans of INDIA not change the INDIAN team and take them to a next Level?

[Fazal]

Originally Posted by MSM B2C
thats exactly a typical bengali fans thinking we will remain in the same spot as long as we have fans like yourself and me.. we are typical... we tend not to look for things that will improve our cricket. We talk and try to find ways of avoiding things, we are bengalis. Then we end up BASHING players and blaming management and etc... why and who, this and that lol... You should check indian forum how they are, there analitical skills are very positive. Did the fans of INDIA not change the INDIAN team and take them to a next Level?

Actually you are not right. that’s exactly what a typical American Fan thinks.

The Indian Fan's behavior that you are portraying (if its true) is not the typical way a fan should react, that’s not a role model, that’s what a fan should avoid ... that's reason why dhoni's house was stoned.

If we want to be active, there are ways to do that. not the way you suggested ... not in your initial comment where you mentioned "crashed everything".... now if you want to change your position and try to say we need more analytic discussion, or should do more civil protest through proper channel, then yes why not..... But "crash all"?.... no thanks, please don't promote violence as a means of protest.

[MSM B2C]

Originally Posted by Fazal
Actually you are not right. that’s exactly what a typical American Fan thinks.

The Indian Fan's behavior that you are portraying (if its true) is not the typical way a fan should react, that’s not a role model, that’s what a fan should avoid ... that's reason why dhoni's house was stoned.

If we want to be active, there are ways to do that. not the way you suggested ... not in your initial comment where you mentioned "crashed everything".... now if you want to change your position and try to say we need more analytic discussion, or should do more civil protest through proper channel, then yes why not..... But "crash all"?.... no thanks, please don't promote violence as a means of protest.

I did not mention we should Crash Everything, I was saying what the Indians did out of Fraustration. I would love to do civil protest against those Donkeys, But I can assure you know one will come forward and will want to do this. Everyone will say yes I am in blahh.. blah... and the End Bengalis will sit on the chair and say Naaah.. Lets leave it. All i wanted to say is why do the indians have so much passion about cricket and why do they hold so much power in changing things that we dont have. we are useless.

[simon]

I don't remember how sharp we were under Julien, it's easy to compare bowling or bttng perfrmnce by looking at the score card but for fielding u need to watch the H/L of every match or read cricinfo commentary.

[mufi_02]

Fountain, are you all set for Pak job?

[Fazal]

Originally Posted by MSM B2C
I did not mention we should Crash Everything, I was saying what the Indians did out of Fraustration. I would love to do civil protest against those Donkeys, But I can assure you know one will come forward and will want to do this. Everyone will say yes I am in blahh.. blah... and the End Bengalis will sit on the chair and say Naaah.. Lets leave it.

lets see your quote

Originally Posted by MSM B2C
If those things happend in INDIA, I guess the indian crowd will go super mad and crash everything, I mean its not right. But common they have power to do something. We bangladesh cricket are useless for nofthing and same goes for US Fans... No one gives a damn!!!!

Your original post give me an impression that if it was in india they would crash everything. But bangladeshis are useless as we not crashing everything in protest.

Originally Posted by MSM B2C;1447727
All i wanted to say is why do the indians have so much [B
passion about cricket[/B] and why do they hold so much power in changing things that we dont have. we are useless.

Why they have so much passion? Who knows? Why should we care ?

Why they have so much power? Give an example where fan's power against their board changed or influenced board's decision? Actually fan base power give their control board leverage and power against all other ICC members.

[MSM B2C]

Originally Posted by Fazal
lets see your quote


Your original post give me an impression that if it was in india they would crash everything. But bangladeshis are useless as we not crashing everything in protest. I did not mention to crash everything... we are afraid to protest leave alone crashing haha You can view what I write in your own way.

Why they have so much passion? Who knows? Why should we care ?!!!! We should learn from others, as Our minds are same as......

Why they have so much power? Give an example where fan's power against their board changed or influenced board's decision? Actually fan base power give their control board leverage and power against all other ICC members.

Take Pakistan as an example.... Fan + Player power has overthrown the pervious board... Now they have a new Board


Look at the positive of fans power!!!

Also take football as an Example... Soon Steve Kean of Blackburn Rovers (English Football League) will be OUT lol... It is called fans Power¬¬¬ And the pressure is getting to the owner plus the respective people who own that club.

[Fazal]

Originally Posted by MSM B2C
Take Pakistan as an example.... Fan + Player power has overthrown the pervious board... Now they have a new Board


Look at the positive of fans power!!!

You said about Indian fans. Now you are giving example of Pakistani fans. Please stick you your point, otherwise its very confusuing what you are trying to say.

Now about your claim that Pakistani fans overthown the previous board? Where did you get that? With match fixing saga, hostile relationship with key players, not so friendly relationship with ICC and other memebers, slowly being isolated.... those are reasons why it was so obvious that Butt was removed. Why you get the idea direct "crashing everything" by fans caused this change?

[Direct-Hit]

Originally Posted by simon
I don't remember how sharp we were under Julien, it's easy to compare bowling or bttng perfrmnce by looking at the score card but for fielding u need to watch the H/L of every match or read cricinfo commentary.

There are complete fielding statistics for every game I was involved with except the one where I was temporary Head Coach against Zim. My stats show all relevant info: wkts, chances, runs saved v missed, etc etc. Surely your current fielding coach takes the same statistics ? How else can he compare performances, assist selectors, create training programs ? You need facts not opinions, as people argue over opinions; lot harder to argue black and white statistics on game performance.

Incidentally the guys who usually argue against using fielding statistics tend to be the ones who people say are "amazing fielders" because they have taken a few great catches. Truth is, they are scared of being held accountable and are often guilty of terrible fielding errors, but everybody gets selective amnesia. Very often the weaker fielders prefer using statistics because it shows they are not that bad really compared to the so called best !!!

FYI using the Cricinfo commentary feed is not reliable for fielding as these guys do not have the necessary coaching / fielding expertise to correctly assess a situation plus they are doing it whilst trying to record the entire game. Their POV is similar to a very keen fan, definitely not an expert.

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[Fazal]

Originally Posted by MSM B2C
Also take football as an Example... Soon Steve Kean of Blackburn Rovers (English Football League) will be OUT lol... It is called fans Power¬¬¬ And the pressure is getting to the owner plus the respective people who own that club.

I hope you understand cricket is not football..... and national team is not like another professional team. And did the "Blackburn Rovers" fans "crashed everyjing" before the changed happen? Or was it more civilized way of protest by fans that casused the change?

[Direct-Hit]

Originally Posted by mufi_02
Fountain, are you all set for Pak job?

Can I plead the fifth . . . .

[MSM B2C]

Originally Posted by Fazal
I hope you understand cricket is not football..... and national team is not like another professional team. And did the "Blackburn Rovers" fans "crashed everyjing" before the changed happen? Or was it more civilized way of protest by fans that casused the change?

with you on board and our fans we shall see where our cricket is heading. good luck.