Can Ravindra Jadeja Take Away Shakibs Crown

[zsayeed]

Jadeja looks like the REAL deal indeed.

[simon]

nah,I made fun of him before but Jadeja really is doing very well, and as Ind play way too many matches than BD he might get to the number one AR spot.
But staying in that n°1 spot is a different challenge, Sakib has already proved that.

[MohammedC]

No one can match what Shakib does. By becoming number 1 all rounder without playing. I have lost count the number of time he has done that.

Go beat that record Jadeja.

[simon]

^^ya, like recently Hafeez's poor performance in Chmp Trophy got Sakib back to n°1 ,
this happened when Watson once reached n°1 too I think.

[Isnaad]

Shakib has not played 8 matches because of injuries. That cost him a good deal of points. Jadeja will get to number one but it will be short-lived that is for sure.

[BengaliPagol]

Shakib still needs to look to improve because he hasn't been at his best for a while now.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
Shakib still needs to look to improve because he hasn't been at his best for a while now.

yeah for sure, his bowling has fallen away a bit, batting is still pretty good though.

[jeesh]

I wont be surprised if this guy ends up one of the best spinners of the world, well at least one of the best SLA's.

He is a happening bowler. Whether its 4 overs or 10 overs, he ll make things happen, will pick wickets, create panic. Just imagine you have a choice of Ojha, Herath, Jadeja, Vettori, Panesaar, Razzak who do you pick. With his current form Jadeja for me because the impact he creates.

He should also bat up the order, more useful than Raina.

[Maysun]

He is an intelligent bowler.. Makes the batsmen think!

[sum_1]

From AltCricket on Twitter.

[koushik]

Latest Icc Odi All Rounder Ranking
.
All-rounders
Rank Player Team
Pts
1 Shakib Al Hasan
Ban 387
2 M Hafeez Pak 382
3 Ravindra Jadeja
Ind 378
4 Shane Watson Aus
372
5 Angelo Mathews SL
334
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[koushik]

Jadeja today vs SL
7.5 Over
23 run
1 maiden
4 wkt

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[prtikul]

Originally Posted by prtikul
Sir Ravindra Jadeja is one of the worst Indian batsman that I have seen in last 10 years, Yes he is good bowler in Indian conditions but I don't want him to any where near Indian squad in 2015 wc, Pretty much useless in those conditions.

Shakib batsman>>>>>>Jadeja


Shakib bowler>= Jadeja

Still not much changed as far his batting is concerned, Maybe India might play him as a genuine spinner in Australia ahead of Ashwin if situation demands. I am not confident to play him as batting an all rounder.

[jeesh]

Lol. He is a genuine all rounder like it or not. Dont be in denial. Jadeja is a big fish in a big pond. Shakib is a big fish in a small pond. You put Jadeja in Bangladesh he too will have fantastic record with bat and ball. He almost averages 50 in his first class career. But not much he can do in international cricket as long as he bats at 7. In Bangladesh we rely on Shakib to give us the platform to bail us out-he plays a central role in whatever we do. In India there are 6 other world class batsman who have an attempt before Jadeja gets his turn. There are 4 other bowlers who will be given more importance than him.

Sadly we are having a dearth in quality talent in international cricket these days. But Jadeja is one such bright spark. I d support any team against India, but his talent and ability is sth every cricket lover must appreciate. It wont be long before he becomes the worlds number 1 all rounder.

[oronnya]

Originally Posted by jeesh
Lol. He is a genuine all rounder like it or not. Dont be in denial. Jadeja is a big fish in a big pond. Shakib is a big fish in a small pond. You put Jadeja in Bangladesh he too will have fantastic record with bat and ball. He almost averages 50 in his first class career. But not much he can do in international cricket as long as he bats at 7. In Bangladesh we rely on Shakib to give us the platform to bail us out-he plays a central role in whatever we do. In India there are 6 other world class batsman who have an attempt before Jadeja gets his turn. There are 4 other bowlers who will be given more importance than him.

Sadly we are having a dearth in quality talent in international cricket these days. But Jadeja is one such bright spark. I d support any team against India, but his talent and ability is sth every cricket lover must appreciate. It wont be long before he becomes the worlds number 1 all rounder.

achha Jadeja real deal hok or unreal deal hok tate amader labh ta ki hochhei!!!!!! He will never play for BD and we will always be stuck with Shakib so why this comparison going on and on... Even if Jadeja rises to number one that won't make any difference to Shakib's role in BD team... Instead of comparing Shakib to Sobers, Kallis, Jadeja or some other ABCD players let's go to Shakib's thread and discuss about why Shakib is performing so poorly these days.... I mean how hard it is for people to accept that Shakib is just an average international player... khali khali er shathe or shathe compare kore nijeder chhoto na korle hoi na??? Let the Indians celebrate Jadeja's success .. People do appreciate talents from all over the world and you don't have to open a thread and argue all the time to make people love him... that won't happen ever... BD people will always love BD players over any great names regardless of our players ranking...

[jeesh]

I think you are in the wrong section. This section is for international cricket. What else should we open threads about? :-S

[oronnya]

Of course you can celebrate any player's success but can we celebrate someone's success when our own boys are failing miserably??? I mean do we ever celebrate other kid's success when my own child has failed... no we don't ... Now if that means I am not a cricket fan then be it... My support and concerns comes for my team first... Do I really care how India is winning crown after crown when my Bangladesh is still ranking number 9...we appreciate and enjoy other's performance/success but definitely we won't celebrate their victory the way we will for our own ...

[koushik]

Leading ODI wicket-takers
in 2013
1. RA Jadeja (India)------>33
2. MJ McClenaghan (NZ)-->29
3. I Sharma (India) -------->29
4. R McLaren (SA)--------->26
5. SL Malinga (SL)--------->26
6. R Ashwin (India)--------> 24
7. JM Anderson (Eng)----->23
8. Saeed Ajmal (Pak)----->23
9. B Kumar (India)-------->23
10. CJ McKay (Aus)-------->22

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[SS]

Originally Posted by MohammedC
No one can match what Shakib does. By becoming number 1 all rounder without playing. I have lost count the number of time he has done that.

Go beat that record Jadeja.

Ar boilenna Bhai ar besi dhure Mai she

[koushik]

ICC ODI ALLROUNDER RANKING -
1.SHAKIB 387
2.JADEJA 376
3.WATSON 372
4.DILSAN 371
5.HAFEZ 370

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[koushik]

ICC ODI BOWLER RANKING
1.JADEJA 738
2.NARINE 733
3.FINN 718
4.ANDERSON 714
5.AJMAL 712

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[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by jeesh
Lol. He is a genuine all rounder like it or not. Dont be in denial. Jadeja is a big fish in a big pond. Shakib is a big fish in a small pond. You put Jadeja in Bangladesh he too will have fantastic record with bat and ball. He almost averages 50 in his first class career. But not much he can do in international cricket as long as he bats at 7. In Bangladesh we rely on Shakib to give us the platform to bail us out-he plays a central role in whatever we do. In India there are 6 other world class batsman who have an attempt before Jadeja gets his turn. There are 4 other bowlers who will be given more importance than him.

Sadly we are having a dearth in quality talent in international cricket these days. But Jadeja is one such bright spark. I d support any team against India, but his talent and ability is sth every cricket lover must appreciate. It wont be long before he becomes the worlds number 1 all rounder.

you cant say that for sure, shakib almost all the time has to bat in a difficult situation, correct me if i am wrong i can't seem to recall jadeja bailing india out in a difficult situation with the bat.

and all the argument about shakib being the vital part of BD as he bowls all the over he bats all the ball can be argued. he doesn't have a strike bowler. he has to ball under difficult situations, same goes for batting as i mentioned earlier. and he plays for a team that always loses, its hard to keep your game up in this situations, something jadeja doesn't need to tackle.

jadeja might become a great all-rounder, but at the moment he can't hold a candle to shakib no matter what the ranking say(even rankings still say shakib is better) just like shakib can't to kallis despite of the rankings

[Gowza]

comparing stats what you see is that they've achieved similar outcomes regardless of the different situations they both bowl under. as far as batting goes though shakib has done better, over a greater period of time, over a greater number of innings. but it's pretty clear shakib has a greater batting responsibility than jadeja. shakib has batted 124 innings out of his 129 matches, jadeja has only batted 54 innings out of his 80 matches. shakib has 19 not outs in 124 innings, jadeja has 16 out of 54 innings. shakib has 5 centuries and 25 half centuries, jadeja has no centuries and only 6 half centuries (even with the difference in innings batted this doesn't match up).

so by looking at stats you get the feeling they're similar as bowlers, but shakib is the better batsman. however i do agree that shakib bowls and bats under more difficult circumstances more often than jadeja does. plus they have different batting roles in that shakib generally bats between 3-5 and jadeja probably bats around #6/7 most of the time. shakib has a slightly higher wickets per match ratio but that could be because he's relied upon much more for wickets than jadeja is, but it's not that big of a difference anyway (jadeja about 1.18 whereas shakib is about 1.29).

[koushik]

Originally Posted by Gowza
comparing stats what you see is that they've achieved similar outcomes regardless of the different situations they both bowl under. as far as batting goes though shakib has done better, over a greater period of time, over a greater number of innings. but it's pretty clear shakib has a greater batting responsibility than jadeja. shakib has batted 124 innings out of his 129 matches, jadeja has only batted 54 innings out of his 80 matches. shakib has 19 not outs in 124 innings, jadeja has 16 out of 54 innings. shakib has 5 centuries and 25 half centuries, jadeja has no centuries and only 6 half centuries (even with the difference in innings batted this doesn't match up).

so by looking at stats you get the feeling they're similar as bowlers, but shakib is the better batsman. however i do agree that shakib bowls and bats under more difficult circumstances more often than jadeja does. plus they have different batting roles in that shakib generally bats between 3-5 and jadeja probably bats around #6/7 most of the time. shakib has a slightly higher wickets per match ratio but that could be because he's relied upon much more for wickets than jadeja is, but it's not that big of a difference anyway (jadeja about 1.18 whereas shakib is about 1.29).

in overall shakib>jadeja
but in 2013 odi
jadeja>>>shakib

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[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by koushik
in overall shakib>jadeja
but in 2013 odi
jadeja>>>shakib

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i agree with you, currently jadeja has done better then shakib, thats why his ranking is good. ranking shows current top performers and jadeja is the current top performing all-rounder

but shakib since the 2012 asia cup has played only 3 ODIs where Jadeja has played a lot, so you cant compare these two