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Old April 21, 2017, 02:54 AM
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Nasir has a better list A record, a similar record to riyad if not better (at least in some respects) in ODIs, he's quite a bit younger, less experienced, better bowler, better fielder etc

Nasir has more pluses than riyad.
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Old April 21, 2017, 06:25 AM
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Lmao at least Mash has confidence in getting 10 quiet overs out of Nasir, won't even see him bowl Riyad more than two.
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Old April 21, 2017, 06:37 AM
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Nasir is bits n pieces yes, but compared to the poser who relies on his brother in law and captain to keep his spot, he's a godsend.

As per finishing ability, a player who has choked in crucial KOs, his fans shouldn't really be criticizing other players finishing skills. It's a person throwing stones in a glass house sort of scenario.

Just like Saffer fans, boast how their players dominate normal LOIs or group stage matches but when a KO match occurs they start booking their flights back home.
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Old April 21, 2017, 07:36 AM
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Nasir's competition is Riyad, not Miraz. Miraz is very much a front line bowling option. His contribution with bat and field come second
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Old April 21, 2017, 09:01 AM
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Both of them look similar. Nasir has experience on his side. Mehedi is nothing special. He is just like any other player from Bangladesh who has a great first few years then fades. I remember Nasir scoring an ODI 100 in his first year of International Cricket. Ideally, I would like to have both in the XI somehow, but that would mean Riyad needs to make way.
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Old April 21, 2017, 05:06 PM
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Nasir's Stats



Full name Mohammad Nasir Hossain

Born November 30, 1991

Current age 25 years 142 days

Major teams Bangladesh, Bangladesh A, Bangladesh Cricket Board Academy, Bangladesh Under-19s, Barisal Division, North Zone (Bangladesh), Rajshahi Division, Rangpur Division, Rangpur Riders

Playing role Allrounder

Batting style Right-hand bat

Bowling style Right-arm offbreak
Mohammad Nasir Hossain
Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
Tests 17 28 2 971 100 37.34 1737 55.90 1 6 110 10 10 0
ODIs 58 47 8 1262 100 32.35 1564 80.69 1 6 110 15 34 0
T20Is 31 24 4 370 50* 18.50 326 113.49 0 2 30 7 15 0
First-class 75 122 6 4279 201 36.88 5 26 65 0
List A 139 117 24 3783 106* 40.67 4446 85.08 4 24 338 71 78 0
Twenty20 95 77 13 1498 80 23.40 1279 117.12 0 5 124 40 39 0
Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests 17 21 861 413 8 3/52 3/130 51.62 2.87 107.6 0 0 0
ODIs 58 37 1052 809 21 3/26 3/26 38.52 4.61 50.0 0 0 0
T20Is 31 11 179 262 7 2/26 2/26 37.42 8.78 25.5 0 0 0
First-class 75 103 4929 2408 68 3/14 4/50 35.41 2.93 72.4 0 0 0
List A 139 112 4425 2944 100 5/36 5/36 29.44 3.99 44.2 1 1 0
Twenty20 95 62 1005 1225 43 3/12 3/12 28.48 7.31 23.3 0 0 0


Miraz's Stats


Mehedi Hasan
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Full name Mehedi Hasan Miraz

Born October 25, 1997, Khulna

Current age 19 years 178 days

Major teams Bangladesh, Bangladesh Under-19s, Kalabagan Cricket Academy

Nickname Miraz

Playing role Allrounder

Batting style Right-hand bat

Bowling style Right-arm offbreak
Mehedi Hasan Miraz
Batting and fielding averages
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 4s 6s Ct St
Tests 7 14 1 189 51 14.53 429 44.05 0 1 27 1 8 0
ODIs 3 1 0 51 51 51.00 71 71.83 0 1 6 0 0 0
T20Is 1 1 0 0 0 0.00 1 0.00 0 0 0 0 2 0
First-class 19 28 2 713 80 27.42 1262 56.49 0 6 98 5 17 0
List A 33 29 1 606 52 21.64 822 73.72 0 4 39 8 8 0
Twenty20 16 12 4 79 41* 9.87 81 97.53 0 0 7 1 8 0
Bowling averages
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w 10
Tests 7 14 1914 1113 35 6/77 12/159 31.80 3.48 54.6 1 3 1
ODIs 3 3 180 142 4 2/43 2/43 35.50 4.73 45.0 0 0 0
T20Is 1 1 12 15 0 - - - 7.50 - 0 0 0
First-class 19 33 4377 2076 76 6/50 12/159 27.31 2.84 57.5 2 6 2
List A 33 33 1452 1055 33 2/19 2/19 31.96 4.35 44.0 0 0 0
Twenty20 16 16 294 363 12 2/12 2/12 30.25 7.40 24.5 0 0 0


Look at List A ....Nasir far outshines Miraz in both batting and bowling and I believe his stats are even better than Mahmudullah.
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Old April 21, 2017, 05:09 PM
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Nasir has a better list A record, a similar record to riyad if not better (at least in some respects) in ODIs, he's quite a bit younger, less experienced, better bowler, better fielder etc

Nasir has more pluses than riyad.
Fully agree! Unlike some posters here you seem to know what you are talking about.
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Old April 21, 2017, 06:41 PM
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Fully agree! Unlike some posters here you seem to know what you are talking about.
Thank you! Just got to do a little research and you realise nasir matches if not betters riyad in every department despite being less experienced and younger. As far as finishing goes nasir has batted 39 innings (from 49 matches) batting from 6-8 with an average of 33.31, strike rate of 81.56 with a century and 5 half centuries. He scored 1066 runs. 7 not outs.

riyad has batted 88 innings (from 102 matches) batting 6-8, average of 29.85, strike rate of 73.42, 0 centuries, 8 half centuries. He scored 1851 runs. 26 not outs.

As a finisher it's pretty clear nasir has performed better than riyad...do not be fooled by Riyad's not outs, sure he stayed not out but did they help the team win? Hasn't helped his average much....nasir has a better strike rate and scores more runs per match batting between 6-8 even though he's younger and more inexperienced...

Riyad has a better record than nasir batting 1-5 but he's also batted there in 30 innings compared to nasir's 8.

For me I'd do a straight swap, riyad for nasir, batting lower down the order, but if nasir was put up the order I wouldn't mind either because seeing what he's so far done internationally at a young age, now on the verge of coming back and scoring lots of runs (batting at 4) and finishing matches domestically I'm confident he can handle batting anywhere from 3 and lower. It's speculation but every spelextion is speculation until it happens. The main issue is that riyad has had enough chances and someone else needs to be given some opportunities.
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Old April 21, 2017, 07:23 PM
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If Nasir is not allowed to play, he should just voluntarily retire in protest
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Old April 21, 2017, 08:25 PM
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Gowza stop throwing facts around!
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Old April 21, 2017, 09:35 PM
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Gowza stop throwing facts around!
Sorry haha.
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Old April 21, 2017, 09:56 PM
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perhaps Nasir's ability with the ball and fielding prowess would be much more useful to the team overall than what Riyad already provides.
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Old April 21, 2017, 10:18 PM
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Both of them look similar. Nasir has experience on his side. Mehedi is nothing special. He is just like any other player from Bangladesh who has a great first few years then fades. I remember Nasir scoring an ODI 100 in his first year of International Cricket. Ideally, I would like to have both in the XI somehow, but that would mean Riyad needs to make way.
Lets hope not. Because the entire country is depending on him as the next long term prospect.

Obviously your assessment is not incorrect, we ve seen so many cases of early promise, which then fades away.
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Old April 21, 2017, 10:24 PM
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Lets hope not. Because the entire country is depending on him as the next long term prospect.

Obviously your assessment is not incorrect, we ve seen so many cases of early promise, which then fades away.
Except as far as batting goes mehedi started poorly and has improved it, here's hoping that's the way things go with him, improvement on the start rather than the kind of norm which is great start then a decline.
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Obviously, Nasir is a much better cricketer than Riad in every possible way...be it batting, bowling, fielding, team play or courage. But, it is his off field pongtami or activities and attitude has seriously affected his performance on the field. Therefore, he was rightly dropped from the side and shunned by the board.

Miraz has tremendous potential and it seems like this lad has the right attitude, skills and dedication to become a very special player. But, for now Nasir should be ahead of him because of his greater international experience and current form.
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Old April 22, 2017, 02:29 AM
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Maybe maturity the difference. Although Riyad shows his fair share of immaturity from time to time.

But Riyad much more focused on his game. Whereas perhaps Nasir has other interests.
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Old April 22, 2017, 03:18 AM
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As far as off field stuff, nasir has started to be more consistent on field so I'm hoping there is a correlation in which that is in part due to improved off field attitude.
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Obviously, Nasir is a much better cricketer than Riad in every possible way...be it batting, bowling, fielding, team play or courage. But, it is his off field pongtami or activities and attitude has seriously affected his performance on the field. Therefore, he was rightly dropped from the side and shunned by the board.

Miraz has tremendous potential and it seems like this lad has the right attitude, skills and dedication to become a very special player. But, for now Nasir should be ahead of him because of his greater international experience and current form.
I think this is the only probable reason I think why he may been dropped otherwise stats are clearly in his favour
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As far as off field stuff, nasir has started to be more consistent on field so I'm hoping there is a correlation in which that is in part due to improved off field attitude.
He has been out for a long time now hope this has made him realize the importance of a goot attitude.
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Obviously, Nasir is a much better cricketer than Riad in every possible way...be it batting, bowling, fielding, team play or courage. But, it is his off field pongtami or activities and attitude has seriously affected his performance on the field. Therefore, he was rightly dropped from the side and shunned by the board.

Miraz has tremendous potential and it seems like this lad has the right attitude, skills and dedication to become a very special player. But, for now Nasir should be ahead of him because of his greater international experience and current form.
Yea the guy who hasnt scored a 50 since 2013 is a much better cricketer then Riyad. Makes sense
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Drop Riyad.... bring back Nasir. Then drop Nasir and bring back Riyad....the cycle continues with no net gain... jai lau sheye kodu.

Need to get our of this recycling process.... think out of the box... time to move on and try someone else.
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