***The Donald Trump Thread***

[ToBeFair]

The escalator ride that changed America....... and the world

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...history-227148

[Tiger49]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ince-of-whales
This is just the funniest thing ever

[Roey Haque]

President Trump relaunches his 2020 campaign. May you serve 4 more years. Keep America Great.

[ToBeFair]

Noam Chomsky is spot on as always:

Trying to deduce any kind of grand strategy from a president who confuses the West with California and believes the moon is part of Mars can feel like a fool’s errand, if not “the purest acid satire.” But as Noam Chomsky argues in an interview with Truthout this week, “there is a strategy”—one that has empowered the far right across the globe and ultimately endangers human life on earth. If Ronald Reagan’s presidency was a tragedy, he speculates, then Trump’s is history repeating itself as farce.

“It’s understandable that the farce elicits ridicule, and no doubt some are relishing the coming photo-op of Trump and Boris Johnson upholding Anglo-American civilization,” claims the celebrated linguist and philosopher. “But for the world, it’s dead serious, from the destruction of the environment and the growing threats of terminal nuclear war to a long list of other crimes and horrors.”

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/no...ated-as-farce/

[ToBeFair]

Fascist in Chief

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly……
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 14, 2019

….and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how….
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 14, 2019

[ToBeFair]

BTW, Trump is ramping up his demagoguery so that people and media have no breathing room to talk about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Trump knows how to play the media. He is a master of drowning you out in white noise.

[ToBeFair]

The recent Mueller testimony, to borrow Trump's words, was a TOTAL DISASTER and DISGRACE, and a big, beautiful, tremendous WIN and a re-election gift for Donald J. Trump

In my life, I hate people who position themselves on the middle to evade responsibility. I hate with passion who play football and pass the ball and dodge when the time and situation demands a quick decisive decision. I face similar situation in my office everyday, where people paid to make decision dodge their duty and keep issues dragging instead of killing it.

Bob Mueller was given a task of enormous importance. He was entrusted to make a decision. He was given all the resources. He needed to be clear with his conclusion. But he did not come clean. It was a conscious decision on his part. Even if I accede that a sitting president cannot be indicted, no one is asking Mueller to indict Trump. But as part of his conclusion, he can definitely say this: Based on my finding, I ask Congress to impeach the president (or otherwise).

He did not do that. He instead came up with a report and a testimony where both parties can claim victory.

Bob Mueller is a DISGRACE. He was a disgrace to begin with, because he lied to American public and facilitated the Bush administration to start the illegal war in Iraq.

To Democrats: Russiagate was a Podesta-Clinton concocted lie to begin with, but even if I overlook that fact, the onus of Russiagate falls on the shoulder of Democrats and not Trump. Because 2016 election was conducted and overseen under Obama - a democratic administration. If Russia has intervened in the election, the blame should squarely be on Obama and his administration, and NOT on Trump.

[ToBeFair]

A great interview: A professor discusses how Trump uses scandal fatigue to violate all norms and ethics. He also discusses the long term effects of Trumpism on domestic and foreign policies.

[ToBeFair]

[ToBeFair]

As if recent Mueller testimony was not enough humiliation for the democrats and the security state, the court handed another victory to Trump by correctly dismissing DNC lawsuit about Russian interference.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...l-hack-1441166

The Commander in Tweet wasted no time to seize the moment and gloat about it in twitter:

“Wow! A federal Judge in the Southern District of N.Y. completely dismissed a lawsuit brought by the Democratic National Committee against our historic 2016 campaign for President,” he tweeted. “The Judge said the DNC case was ‘entirely divorced‘ from the facts, yet another total & complete.....vindication & exoneration from the Russian, WikiLeaks and every other form of HOAX perpetrated by the DNC, Radical Democrats and others. This is really big 'stuff' especially coming from a highly respected judge who was appointed by President Clinton. The Witch Hunt Ends!“

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...l-hack-1441166

[ToBeFair]

Trump advised his daughter Ivanka to make and release a sex tape so that she could make more money of her brand

According to a profile of Ivanka Trump in New York Magazine, Donald Trump actually tried to get his daughter to release a sex tape after Paris Hilton’s tape was released. He believed that it would be a huge money maker and that it would boost her profile, even if it came at the expense of her dignity. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins explains what this tells us about Trump’s relationship with his daughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bb0hEQOVoE

[Shingara]

ToBeFair, apnar jonmo ki Americay ?
Trump key eto oposondo koren ken ? We , who live outside the US, thinks he is a decent guy - not perfect but ok. He's the only US president who hasn't started war somewhere in the world. Even everyone's beloved Obama raged war in Libya!

What Trump instead does is threaten countries like Iran and N Korea so that they pipe down.

[Fazal]

So Kamal Harris owns a gun for her protection. But she wants to ban guns? What a fraud.

As a procecutor she was ruthless against drug users, but now to get popular she says she smokrd drugs ...and as a Jamaican it's pretty common to smoke weed. What a big time fraud...

She is in the lime light out because she is a woman with dark skin color.

How pathetic it is....

[ToBeFair]

Jeffrey Epstein, who used to supply underage girls to powerful elites like Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, suddenly commits suicide inside a prison cell.

He was under suicide watch. And on top of that, it is almost impossible to commit suicide inside a prion cell. Yet, he found a way to hang himself

Epstein undergoing trial would have unearthed many dirty secrets about the Clintons and the Trumps and others in their rank. So, coincidentally he commits suicide at a very convenient time. Can it get anymore brazen than this?

BTW, another JFK style investigation coming up

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...eories-1456309

[ToBeFair]

Trump's trade war brilliantly explained in this article

America’s chief competitor in the trade war is obviously China, which subsidizes not just worker costs but the costs of its businesses. The government owns 80% of the banks, which make loans on favorable terms to domestic businesses, especially state-owned businesses. If the businesses cannot repay the loans, neither the banks nor the businesses are typically put into bankruptcy, since that would mean losing jobs and factories. The nonperforming loans are just carried on the books or written off. No private creditors are hurt, since the creditor is the government and the loans were created on the banks’ books in the first place (following standard banking practice globally).

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China thinks this is a better banking model than the private Western system focused on short-term profits for private shareholders. But U.S. policymakers consider China’s subsidies to its businesses and workers to be “unfair trade practices.” They want China to forgo state subsidization and its other protectionist policies in order to level the playing field. But Beijing contends that the demanded reforms amount to “economic regime change.” As Hudson puts it: “This is the fight that Trump has against China. He wants to tell it to let the banks run China and have a free market. He says that China has grown rich over the last fifty years by unfair means, with government help and public enterprise. In effect, he wants the Chinese to be as threatened and insecure as American workers. They should get rid of their public transportation. They should get rid of their subsidies. They should let a lot of their companies go bankrupt so that Americans can buy them. They should have the same kind of free market that has wrecked the US economy. [Emphasis added.]”

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To understand what is happening here, it is useful to review some history. The free market model hollowed out America’s manufacturing base beginning in the Thatcher/Reagan era of the 1970s and ’80s, when neoliberal economic policies took hold. Meanwhile, emerging Asian economies, led by Japan, were exploding on the scene with a new economic model called “state-guided market capitalism.” The state determined the priorities and commissioned the work, then hired private enterprise to carry it out. The model overcame the defects of the communist system, which put ownership and control in the hands of the state.

The Japanese state-guided market system was effective and efficient—so effective that it was regarded as an existential threat to the neoliberal model of debt-based money and “free markets” promoted by the International Monetary Fund (IMF). According to author William Engdahl in “A Century of War,” by the end of the 1980s, Japan was considered the leading economic and banking power in the world. Its state-guided model was also proving to be highly successful in South Korea and the other “Asian Tiger” economies. When the Soviet Union collapsed at the end of the Cold War, Japan proposed its model to the former communist countries, and many began looking to it and to South Korea’s example as viable alternatives to the U.S. free-market system. State-guided capitalism provided for the general welfare without destroying capitalist incentive.

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Just as the U.S. had engaged in a Cold War to destroy the Soviet communist model, so Western financial interests set out to destroy this emerging Asian threat. It was defused when Western neoliberal economists persuaded Japan and the Asian Tigers to adopt a free-market system and open their economies and companies to foreign investors. Western speculators then took down the vulnerable countries one by one in the “Asian crisis” of 1997-8. China alone was left as an economic threat to the Western neoliberal model, and it is this existential threat that is the target of the trade and currency wars today.

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The implication is that China, being too strong to be knocked out of the game as the Soviet Union was, needs to be coerced or cajoled into adopting the neoliberal model and abandoning state support of its industries and ownership of its banks. But the Chinese system, while obviously not perfect, has an impressive track record for sustaining long-term growth and development. While the U.S. manufacturing base was being hollowed out under the free-market model, China was systematically building up its own manufacturing base and investing heavily in infrastructure and emerging technologies, and it was doing this with credit generated by its state-owned banks. Rather than trying to destroy China’s economic system, it might be more “favorable to U.S. interests and values” for us to adopt its more effective industrial and banking practices.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/ne...atch-in-china/

[Fazal]

Originally Posted by ToBeFair
Jeffrey Epstein, who used to supply underage girls to powerful elites like Donald Trump and Bill Clinton, suddenly commits suicide inside a prison cell.

Why stopping at these two names.... few more names already came up former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D) and former Sen. George Mitchell (D-Maine) from the accuser. And also Bill Gate's name came up.


There quite a few big shot's name (with clean public image.... polical and non-political) was about to come up in the trial. May be they should be the prime suspect. Now the case will be dropped (as he is dead) and those name never come to public. Those unknown names (that would come up in the news later at some point) are the prime beneficiary of this suicide.


Epstein had lots of money and he was a democrat (and serious Obama Supporter) and donated a lot of high provide democrats... not one or two... many.


btw there is another gay Billionaire in CA (Ed Buck) , who also a huge Democrat Donar, two gay (prostitutes) died in his house due to "drug overdose" within years and nothing really happened to him (so far).... he is not implicating Trump.... so it is not getting any highlight in the news link


These kind of scumbags are being tolerated by the two parties because they provide the money to the parties.... they only come up for wrong reasons.... to take an upper-hand to the opponent only for political reason..... not for moral reason.


Harvey Weinstein (another Democrat donor and supporter) got away with so long because of his political connection, has nothing to do with Trump the politician.



Michael Jackson is another scumbag got away with child abuse (sexual abuse).

[ToBeFair]

^^ You are correct -- so many high profile names are connected with Jeff Epstein, both political and apolitical. Example: Physicist Laurence Krauss.

As you used to say: sujoger ovabe majority are choritrobaan

BTW, the killing of Epstein is truly bipartisan - in fact this is the epitome of bipartisanship in Washington.

[Fazal]

Originally Posted by ToBeFair

BTW, the killing of Epstein is truly bipartisan - in fact this is the epitome of bipartisanship in Washington.

I also suspect the same. Epstein used them, they used him. Now that he is a damaged good and may hurt their reputation.... they cut the loss before more damage is done to their "good" image.

[ToBeFair]

Trump is now hammering Clinton with Jeff Epstein

“I know he was on his plane 27 times, and he said he was on the plane four times,” Trump said. “But when they checked the plane logs, Bill Clinton — who was a very good friend of Epstein — he was on the plane about 27 or 28 times. So why did he say four times?”

“The question you have to ask is, did Bill Clinton go to the island? Because Epstein had an island. That was not a good place, as I understand it, and I was never there,” Trump said Tuesday. “So you have to ask, did Bill Clinton go to the island? That’s the question. If you find that out, you’re going to know a lot.”

Clinton responded in Clintonian "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" way

“President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York,” Clinton spokesman Angel Ureña said last month. "He’s not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade, and has never been to Little St. James Island, Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida.”

Ureña also hit back against Trump's effort to link the Clintons to Epstein's suicide, tweeting on Saturday: "Ridiculous, and of course not true — and Donald Trump knows it. Has he triggered the 25th Amendment yet?"

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...theory-1460646

[ToBeFair]

How Trump should not be resisted:

There are two things about this very stupid story that I can understand, kind of:

1. If Trump actually said we should nuke a hurricane to stop it in its tracks, then that’s funny because it’s a weird and bad idea that was debunked in the ‘50s because the hurricane would act as a perfect vehicle for spreading radiation.
2. If Trump insisted on it, that would be scary.

However, I also know two other things. First, Trump didn’t insist on it, because that would take us to Mad King realms that even he hasn’t reached. Second, this story isn’t being treated as something funny…it’s being treated as “alarming.”

All of which fundamentally misunderstands both Donald Trump and the correct method of combating Donald Trump, all in a very quintessentially Feckless Liberal way.

See, sometimes Trump just says things. That’s part of his modus operandi. So yes, I fully believe that in some meeting, he put on his best blowhard face and was like, “LET’S NUKE THE CANES!” And some people nervously laughed, and told him as politely as possible that it wasn’t prudent. And then, I’m sure, Trump half-forgot the rebuke, because he doesn’t pay attention to literally anything that won’t further the narcissistic narrative he imagines for himself in a running director’s commentary that plays in his bizarre ego-brain, and then at a later meeting he probably said the exact same thing, and the same exact process played out. And then he probably forgot it.

Again, that’s funny…in the sort of absurdist, unsettling way that the dark pageantry of Trump can be funny. But it’s not the stuff of high crimes, because it was never going to be carried out, and that’s not Trump’s way of doing business.

What some liberals want from this story is more evidence that Trump is deranged and/or crazy and/or unstable and/or whatever. “I call him Dangerous Donald,” they say to themselves, echoing Hillary Clinton’s very embarrassing debate moment. But none of that is true, is it? He’s not deranged or unstable or crazy—he’s a monster, but a crafty one, and for very different reasons. He’s also a loudmouth, and this “nuke the hurricanes” moment needs to be recognized as the symptoms of that, and not something more serious. Because—guess what—his supporters know it’s not serious. His non-supporters, for the most part, know it’s not serious. Trump, when he said it, wasn’t that serious—he was just spewing words, the verbal equivalent of throwing wet spaghetti at a wall to see what sticks.

What is serious? Children in cages, attacks on healthcare, legions of conservative judges with lifetime appointments, tax cuts for the wealthiest people that aggravate an already dismal state of inequality, trade wars that threaten recession, and the empowerment of white nationalists like the KKK who now parade close to my hometown with banners echoing Trump’s own slogans.
I mention this not as a lecture, but to emphasize that in order to beat Trump, we have to focus on issues that actually affect average Americans. By flapping our arms in a tizzy every time he says something idiotic but ultimately irrelevant, we contribute to a media culture that emphasizes the superficial and negates the substantial. It’s no coincidence that every time something like this happens, the president perpetuates it on Twitter. He wants the absurdity, and he can turn it to his advantage. There’s nothing the man loves more than a spectacle, even if it seems, at first, to make him look foolish.

Trump’s base won’t care about bombing hurricanes, but they may care about something that impacts their actual lives. Even if they don’t—even if they’re too far gone—the vast millions of potential Democratic voters want inspiration. That inspiration is out there, but it doesn’t come from smug rebuttals to off-the-cuff proposals that were never serious in the first place. It doesn’t come from getting caught in the cyclone that is our president’s media circus. Trump’s greatest ally is distraction, and his biggest enemy is focus.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...ear-bombs.html

[ToBeFair]

This article is very long, but it is a very well written article about understanding the psychology of Donald Trump.

If you want to understand what President Trump will do in any situation, then, it’s more helpful to ask: What would TV do? What does TV want?

It wants conflict. It wants excitement. If there is something that can blow up, it should blow up. It wants a fight. It wants more. It is always eating and never full.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opini...-tv/ar-AAGUlYO

[ToBeFair]

Did Trump just tweet on behalf of Mike Pence? If not, then I must say: Pence has mastered the Art of Deal Butt-Kissing.

If it pleases the court, I’d like to enter the following into the record:

Exhibit A) This tweet from Donald Trump, the president of the United States:

A lot of Fake News is being reported that I overruled the VP and various advisers on a potential Camp David meeting with the Taliban. This Story is False! I always think it is good to meet and talk, but in this case I decided not to. The Dishonest Media likes to create...
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 9, 2019

Exhibit B) This tweet from Mike Pence, the vice president of the United States:

That’s Absolutely Right Mr. President. More Fake News! The Dishonest Media never contacted our office before running with this story and if they had, we would have told them I FULLY support your decision. https://t.co/zjzro1fzSg
— Vice President Mike Pence (@VP) September 9, 2019

Pence’s, um, uncharacteristically enthusiastic capitalization aside (in my head, I’m picturing the president grabbing the phone out of Pence’s hand and mashing this out while Pence looks on in a combination of shock and hero worship) can we agree that this is the most pathetically kiss-*** thing Pence has tweeted to date?

https://splinternews.com/this-is-pat...nce-1837989849

[Zeeshan]

Originally Posted by Shingara
ToBeFair, apnar jonmo ki Americay ?
Trump key eto oposondo koren ken ? We , who live outside the US, thinks he is a decent guy - not perfect but ok. He's the only US president who hasn't started war somewhere in the world. Even everyone's beloved Obama raged war in Libya!

What Trump instead does is threaten countries like Iran and N Korea so that they pipe down.

As much I don't like you, I agree that at least this moron didn't start any war. And he doesn't hate Trump. As with anything in life, it's incredibly subtle and nuanced. Start seeing the word beyond good and bad, hate vs like and instagram hearts vs instagrams not f---in hearts.

[ToBeFair]

Trump is inept but Dems are more inept. Proof of Dem ineptness (1) Nominating Hillary (2) RussiaGate (3) Impeachment Saga (4) Propping up Creepy Joe, Crooked KamalaSutra, Pesky Pete, and LYIN' Liz . Result: In a fight between inept vs more inept, inept aka Trump wins easily and always!

[ToBeFair]

Trump is too dumb to play 3D chess but his firing of John Bolton with 2020 election at sight was a brilliant move. He can now use it to tout his anti-war message and his base is too dumb to ask why he had hired Bolton in the first place. Another Trump win.

BTW, losers like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are crying that Trump fired Bolton. And you wonder why these pathetic democrats claim loss from the jaws of victory?