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March 20, 2014, 11:51 AM
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Public Apology is Needed for this loss
Musfik On-behave of the entire cricket team needs to apologize to the general public of BD for this lose. In sports win or lose is always a possibility but losing to two associates within one month(one of them is filled with holiday players) is not expectable
we now have lost to Kenya,Canada,Ireland,Netherland,Scotland, afganistan and now Hong Kong after gaining test(?) status..we are the only Test(?) playing nation to lose against 7 associates..regarding the number of serious cricket playing nations that number is huge
Faruk Needs to apologize for selecting his "attio" Forhad Pant Veza...seriously cant sand this guy anymore
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March 20, 2014, 11:53 AM
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All the excitement following t20 wc gone out of the window
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March 20, 2014, 11:54 AM
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Seriously, losing to Honk Kong
Some months ago I did not Honk Kong even played cricket properly
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March 20, 2014, 11:54 AM
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No chance. This is the plan.
Mushfiq should step down like he did after ZIM series. This is 1000x worse at least ZIM beat PAK at home. Who has HK beaten?
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March 20, 2014, 11:55 AM
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it is shown again..we cant beat pak team
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March 20, 2014, 11:57 AM
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He also needs to resign after this and the entire management sacked.
Afghanistan and now Hong Kong?
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March 20, 2014, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Night_wolf
Faruk Needs to apologize for selecting his "attio" Forhad Pant Veza...seriously cant sand this guy anymore
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Faruk and Kallis Reza attiyo naki?
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March 20, 2014, 11:59 AM
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We can't have the captain resign in the middle of a tournament, are you guys serious?
Lets wait after the tournament is done with.
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March 20, 2014, 11:59 AM
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I think he can resign after we know how they do in actual group matches - you know matches that matter now that they've gotten through. But yeah this is pretty bad.
PS: Why does Mushy get the blame? The problem was terrible brainless batting, how would changing captains help, out of interest?
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March 20, 2014, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shakibrulz
I think he can resign after we know how they do in actual group matches - you know matches that matter now that they've gotten through. But yeah this is pretty bad.
PS: Why does Mushy get the blame? The problem was terrible brainless batting, how would changing captains help, out of interest?
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Yes the batting sucked. However we could still win this. And the reason we didnt do so lies entirely on Mushy. I love him as a batsman, a fielder and a keeper. However,I dont know who should be the captain but Mushi should not remain the captain. He pissed me off so much after this match. Has no brains whatsoever.
Why keep bowling his useless fast bowlers? Especially why bowl Reza and release the pressure? Why bowl an injured RUbel? Why keep making the useless Al-Amin field in fine-leg? Why do they keep smiling like idiots just because they qualified despite losing so badly against a team like Hong Kong? Even a team like Hong Kong has better fast-bowlers than us(they didnt bowl cross-seam unlike Al-Amin who couldnt control his swing)? Afghanistan fast bowlers are also way better. God so pissed at the moment. We will be slaughtered in the next round.
And even a neanderthal should know the quality of our fast bowlers, then why not use Nasir, Shabbir when you can see the Honk Kong batsmen struggle against spin?
Oh and one more thing, please for the love of god drop Razzak. His time is long past. Bring in Tajiul or A,B,C,Detc or use Mominul instead of him. **** our team-management is filled with brain-dead people and our team is filled with players who get satisfied too easily.
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March 20, 2014, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dark mage
Yes the batting sucked. However we could still win this. And the reason we didnt do so lies entirely on Mushy. I love him as a batsman, a fielder and a keeper. However,I dont know who should be the captain but Mushi should not remain the captain. He pissed me off so much after this match. Has no brains whatsoever.
Why keep bowling his useless fast bowlers? Especially why bowl Reza and release the pressure? Why bowl an injured RUbel? Why keep making the useless Al-Amin field in fine-leg? Why do they keep smiling like idiots just because they qualified despite losing so badly against a team like Hong Kong? Even a team like Hong Kong has better fast-bowlers than us(they didnt bowl cross-seam unlike Al-Amin who couldnt control his swing)? Afghanistan fast bowlers are also way better. God so pissed at the moment. We will be slaughtered in the next round.
And even a neanderthal should know the quality of our fast bowlers, then why not use Nasir, Shabbir when you can see the Honk Kong batsmen struggle against spin?
Oh and one more thing, please for the love of god drop Razzak. His time is long past. Bring in Tajiul or A,B,C,Detc or use Mominul instead of him. **** our team-management is filled with brain-dead people and our team is filled with players who get satisfied too easily.
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You can't even remotely place the blame on captaincy here. And I'm a Shak fanatic but when he used to be captain there used to be a LOT of whining about his captaincy, tacticswise too. Not all of them unfair, but just to keep things in perspective.
You lost this because of shitty batting. There are some weird tactics Mushy constantly keep employing, but that aside he's okay. And I don't know why he hadn't bowled spinners enough, so speculation would be useless I guess. Probably he was worried about leaking runs - Sabbir is still technically a part timer and Nasir's bowling has crashed down a lot. But I still agree that he should've given them a go.
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March 20, 2014, 12:02 PM
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We have been beaten by 7 associates after test status...7 FREKKEN Associates
i am sure preety soon Nepal will join this not so elite group
in 10-20 years we'll have hard time finding out teams that hasn't beaten us at least once
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March 20, 2014, 12:02 PM
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Management sacked
Public apology
Mushy resigns
Shane GONE
Paposh and his negative Karma removed and banned from cricket.
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March 20, 2014, 12:06 PM
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I thought there was a chance Mushy would resign DURING the post match captains interview
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March 20, 2014, 12:16 PM
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I thought there was a chance Mushy would resign DURING the post match captains interview
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No way!
He doesn't have any dignity.
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March 20, 2014, 12:07 PM
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I would probably blame it on Farhad Reza, Mahmudullah, Abdur Razzak, Rubel and Al-Amin's brainless batting. Mushy should only be blamed for giving Reza to ball, when Sabbir was a much better choice given the pitch's condition.
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Management sacked
Public apology
Mushy resigns
Shane GONE
Paposh and his negative Karma removed and banned from cricket.
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March 20, 2014, 12:11 PM
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Okay. Mushy has a lot of positives but he can't put pressure and seems to always have questionable bowling picks. I'll give you that he can only work with what he is given and Reza is not his responsibility.
The part timers from HK batted with more maturity then our professional players. If we didn't have Shakib in the team, imagine where we'd stand against all this associates.
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I would probably blame it on Farhad Reza, Mahmudullah, Abdur Razzak, Rubel and Al-Amin's brainless batting. Mushy should only be blamed for giving Reza to ball, when Sabbir was a much better choice given the pitch's condition.
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March 20, 2014, 08:45 PM
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Okay. Mushy has a lot of positives but he can't put pressure and seems to always have questionable bowling picks. I'll give you that he can only work with what he is given and Reza is not his responsibility.
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Well,
Selectors select 15 men squad...and captain (Mushy), coach choose the playing squad..
Mushy is 100% responsible in today's case.
> Why he gave Reza to bowl the 2nd over when he saw that Hong Kong players are playing our pacer well..?
> Why Mushy did not use Shabbir and Nasir when spinners were doing great?
> Why Mushy picked up Reza over Mominul?
> Why Mushy backed Razzak to be in the WC squad when Arafat was a better choice in the first place (knowing Razzak's current below par form)
> Why Zia is not in the WC squad? Mushy never complained about T20WC squad, thus, my guess is he does NOT like Zia (proof: even when Zia is in the squad, he does not use him as a bowler much)
Anyway, I am ok with everything if Mushy is being honest, work harder, use his brain in the second round while field setting, using bowlers and selecting the playing squad.
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March 20, 2014, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE=kalpurush;1772504]Well,
Selectors select 15 men squad...and captain (Mushy), coach choose the playing squad..
Mushy is 100% responsible in today's case.
> Why he gave Reza to bowl the 2nd over when he saw that Hong Kong players are playing our pacer well..? No clue
> Why Mushy did not use Shabbir and Nasir when spinners were doing great? No clue
> Why Mushy picked up Reza over Mominul? We needed an extra pacer for dew factor. Plus, Veza fry is an impact player, domestic gaint.
> Why Mushy backed Razzak to be in the WC squad when Arafat was a better choice in the first place (knowing Razzak's current below par form)> It's selector choice NOT Mushi's selection
> Why Zia is not in the WC squad? Mushy never complained about T20WC squad, thus, my guess is he does NOT like Zia (proof: even when Zia is in the squad, he does not use him as a bowler much) It's selector's choice NOT Mushi's selection. Apperently, he did and was criticized. True, Mushi did not use the Hulk cause he thinks he is an occasional bowler
Anyway, I am ok with everything if Mushy is being honest, work harder, use his brain in the second round while field setting, using bowlers and selecting the playing squad.[/QUOTE]
Please see my answers above in bold
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March 20, 2014, 12:09 PM
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Mods can you please correct the spelling of apology in the thread title?
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March 20, 2014, 12:09 PM
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The thing is, after one fluke win. All our problems will be overlooked.
Our wins in the last few matches was due to some good performance from the likes of Shakib and Anamul. Today both performed but the others were just simply horrible.
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March 21, 2014, 01:11 AM
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The thing is, after one fluke win. All our problems will be overlooked
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True. Seriously it's hard to take anymore. We don't deserve to keep test status or be a part of the elites. ICC were 100% correct to let us play with the associates. Things were just beginning to get better till the Faruk and co. twisted the selection. And it gotten even worse to let play Reza instead of Mominul. I was all for Zia instead of Reza, but it isn't possible now. But how can we blame one single player for this massive defeat? It's really the failure of the entire team. Shakib is the only one who can bowl. There is no other bowler that Mushi can depend on. Batting wise we really need to give Mahmudullah, Nasir and Reza a break. The sooner the better. So frustrated. We can request ICC to put us on the next intercontinental cup!
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March 20, 2014, 12:13 PM
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maf kore den vai, shesbarer moto ar hobe na,because of good batting in last two matches we qualified otherwise what would have happened, chintakorle ga shirshir kore, it is all managements fault, how they include reza,riyadh out of from razzak in t20.
Hope we we will beat some teams in main round and forget this horrible innings
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March 20, 2014, 12:20 PM
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I think this loss was good for Bangladesh. It should be a learning lesson. Now they should make necessary changes in the team. They should figure out a way to include Zia in the team and get rid of useless Farhad. Why on earth he is on the team is beyond my comprehension. Even Romania national cricket team would not have taken him. Also Mominul should be in the playing 11 instead of Mahmudullah.
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March 20, 2014, 12:22 PM
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Hey guys I think you guys are over reacting to the loss. I have few points to make
1. HK is not as bad a team as many of you are taking them. Remember they qualified for T20 WC and then in WCQ finished in Top 4 getting ODI status till 2018. Only 6 teams have ODI status- Ire, Afg, UAE, Scot, HK & PNG
2. They finished ahead of teams like Can, Ken, Neth in the tournaments
3. They are not a expat side. You might see South Asian names but infact majority of the players in the team have played U15, U19 for HK, hence the cricketers have learned the game in HK itself
4. They are 1 of the 2 Associates which have Multi Day cricket in their domestic tournament
5. They have decent facilities in HK- Remember HK sixes, they always have a HK team and these players play against the best players in that tournament
6. Last, I know many of you will pounce on me for that, BD are better than Associates but not so better that they will win 10 out of 10 times. Against Afg, Ire will would say 7 out 10 times, against others 9 out of 10 times. So you have to give the team this much liberty
Most of the year BD have an empty calender. I hope BCB starts to invite the Associate teams for ODI and Four Day matches. This will help team to experiment a lot, and get it's bench ready when facing the so called Big 8. That is all I have to say. Don't kill me for that
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