Bangladeshi best Under-Pressure Cricketer Award!

[BanglaNAus]

Mahmud wins it definetly one does not simply carry on when the team is 10/3

[MohammedShamim]

Tamim is being under appreciated by fans, even though most of us lost/said many things about him, he has contributed more in winning causes then most. If you look at all our wins, be it ODI, Test or T20, he has had a solid score at the top order. Deserves a little mention

[epitaph]

The Riyad of late and an in-form Mushy. Mashrafe's captaincy is also great in pressure situations.

[MohammedShamim]

Salute to all that voted for Mahmudullah, top innings yesterday

[oronnya]

Originally Posted by MohammedShamim
He was sitting on the bench for KKR, initially they got it right, his place was as a sub, might sound harsh.. But was it not us fans going mad about why his not playing and KKR showing disrespect becuase his Bangladeshi? Now he got couple of chances and most often than not his bowling was outstanding (expected in India), his batting was poor, only in last 1-2 season he scored some runs. He went to County, once again his bowling was decent, batting just average or below, same happened in CPL. You see most often than not Indians love promoting their own players and exaggerating others just to have more fans from those countries watching, ratings.. They made Shakib into world class and promoted him so much that most BD fans follow KKR.. I don't exactly like him for he has underpferformed big time in world Tournments when your main star is expected to stand up from the rest.

Originally Posted by BanglaNAus
Hey don't singleize him.Shakib is selfish scored a 45 ball 50 in a match were he need him the most. He bowled like **** and batted even why shouldn't he cope the heat after all it creates essence inside of him to perform.Ur the villain here not shamim he played **** and fans will hate let him do his thing I'm sure we will all praise him when he is back into form.Plus I wouldn't consider his form a rough patch more like a ditch he is trying to crawl out

The last time he hit a 50 was 1 year back

Originally Posted by MohammedShamim
Salute to all that voted for Mahmudullah, top innings yesterday

I don't know when you have joined BC because Riyad was tagged as a sissy player here in BC just 2 years ago. He was never a sissy player but he was not a pressure player either. We lost the Asia cup final by only 2 runs in 2014 just because he was not bold enough to take the responsibility and win it for us. So definitely Riyad was not even a contender for pressure situation player.

[Jadukor]

Originally Posted by oronnya
I don't know when you have joined BC because Riyad was tagged as a sissy player here in BC just 2 years ago. He was never a sissy player but he was not a pressure player either. We lost the Asia cup final by only 2 runs in 2014 just because he was not bold enough to take the responsibility and win it for us. So definitely Riyad was not even a contender for pressure situation player.

People have short term memory. Shakib single handedly won ODI series vs NZ. But that was too long ago and so forgotten

[MHRAM]

I don't get it why people say Shakib goes missing in big matches. Check his stats in last 3 WT20s. Also performed in 07 WC and a few matches of 2011 WC

[oronnya]

Originally Posted by MohammedShamim
He was sitting on the bench for KKR, initially they got it right, his place was as a sub, might sound harsh.. But was it not us fans going mad about why his not playing and KKR showing disrespect becuase his Bangladeshi? Now he got couple of chances and most often than not his bowling was outstanding (expected in India), his batting was poor, only in last 1-2 season he scored some runs. He went to County, once again his bowling was decent, batting just average or below, same happened in CPL. You see most often than not Indians love promoting their own players and exaggerating others just to have more fans from those countries watching, ratings.. They made Shakib into world class and promoted him so much that most BD fans follow KKR.. I don't exactly like him for he has underpferformed big time in world Tournments when your main star is expected to stand up from the rest.

Originally Posted by BanglaNAus
Hey don't singleize him.Shakib is selfish scored a 45 ball 50 in a match were he need him the most. He bowled like **** and batted even why shouldn't he cope the heat after all it creates essence inside of him to perform.Ur the villain here not shamim he played **** and fans will hate let him do his thing I'm sure we will all praise him when he is back into form.Plus I wouldn't consider his form a rough patch more like a ditch he is trying to crawl out

The last time he hit a 50 was 1 year back

Originally Posted by Jadukor
People have short term memory. Shakib single handedly won ODI series vs NZ. But that was too long ago and so forgotten

Yeah you are right and also forgot many many more other contributions from that man specially Shakib's knock against India in Asia Cup 2014 which secured our place in final. If someone wants me to give example of pressure situation games where Shakib helped us win I think I will be able to write a paper as there are soooo many. It's unfortunate that Shakib lost his touch and people are getting chance to bash him. Also I think some new/young members are not aware of those past matches so they can't relate to his contribution.

[MohammedShamim]

Please win us one World Cup match against a Top Quality side with your MOM performance before retirement, thank you Shakib.

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by MohammedShamim
Bro, no expectation = literally no pressure. ....

You can't win even for the sake of argument. Because you have failed to understand the word "pressure".

There are different types of Pressure. Pressure to succeed, pressure to win, pressure to learn and excel over others. Pressure to maintain standard.

Your "no expectation = literally no pressure." couldn't be farthest from the TRUTH.

So, first thing first. Admit your statement was wrong. Then we will discuss the other parts in a civil manner.

Originally Posted by MohammedShamim
It's also sad one has to go back to 2007 to defend Shakib lol

Another fail. What part of my post you didn't understand? Reading is fundamental.

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
2007 WC vs Ind. and the journey started.

I get a feeling although he is has been among the top Alrounders of the world for 8+ years, it is not enough for you. You want Shakib to be a Sobers which no one since sobers could be.

[MohammedShamim]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
You can't win even for the sake of argument. Because you have failed to understand the word "pressure".

There are different types of Pressure. Pressure to succeed, pressure to win, pressure to learn and excel over others. Pressure to maintain standard.

Your "no expectation = literally no pressure." couldn't be farthest from the TRUTH.

So, first thing first. Admit your statement was wrong. Then we will discuss the other parts in a civil manner.

Another fail. What part of my post you didn't understand? Reading is fundamental.

I get a feeling although he is has been among the top Alrounders of the world for 8+ years, it is not enough for you. You want Shakib to be a Sobers which no one since sobers could be.

Simple question? When was the last time he has won us a game against a BIG team in World Cup? do you know why people can't take Shakib as a world class player? It's because class players perform when it matters in the biggest of stages. By your definition of pressure, one could say any match is a pressure match, as one team has to win.. And if a big team plays a small team, the pressure on the big team is that they don't lose, just do a professional job. Every match has it's own pressure. Every player goes through pressure, be it a world class player or a random domestic player... But how do you differ in terms of who is a quality player, that has that extra edge over others in pressure moments? Events? That shows his class when needed the most? Pressure can be defined in different ways, you can describe in a way that suits you.

[Fazal]

Amam dui khaaan prosno ache...

1. Are with done with under pressure cricketer award?

2. if so, now who should get the over pressure cricketer award?


If one is "slow cooker", the other is " pressure cooker" both can cook some really good food.

[icricket]

Originally Posted by Fazal
Amar dui khaaan prosno ache...

1. Are we done with under pressure cricketer award?

2. if so, now who should get the over pressure cricketer award?


If one is "slow cooker", the other is " pressure cooker" both can cook some ready good food.

[oronnya]

Originally Posted by MohammedShamim
Simple question? When was the last time he has won us a game against a BIG team in World Cup? do you know why people can't take Shakib as a world class player? It's because class players perform when it matters in the biggest of stages. By your definition of pressure, one could say any match is a pressure match, as one team has to win.. And if a big team plays a small team, the pressure on the big team is that they don't lose, just do a professional job. Every match has it's own pressure. Every player goes through pressure, be it a world class player or a random domestic player... But how do you differ in terms of who is a quality player, that has that extra edge over others in pressure moments? Events? That shows his class when needed the most? Pressure can be defined in different ways, you can describe in a way that suits you.

Since when World Cup has become an indicator of best player? Messi has failed to perform in World Cups so many times so does that mean he is not a great player? or South Africa chokes almost every WC so does that indicate they are not a good team?

Shakib was in a good batting form in 2012 T20 WC and one of his knock actually featured in cricinfo as one of the best batting of the tournament and the last WC he almost single handedly helped us to go to the group stage as every other players in the team was failing. So he has his moments in WC so does many others but that doesn't prove anything.

[MohammedShamim]

Originally Posted by oronnya
Since when World Cup has become an indicator of best player? Messi has failed to perform in World Cups so many times so does that mean he is not a great player? or South Africa chokes almost every WC so does that indicate they are not a good team?

Shakib was in a good batting form in 2012 T20 WC and one of his knock actually featured in cricinfo as one of the best batting of the tournament and the last WC he almost single handedly helped us to go to the group stage as every other players in the team was failing. So he has his moments in WC so does many others but that doesn't prove anything.

Sister, I think you don't watch football. Messi failed in world cup? this guy single headedly took his team to the world cup final? he failed, to some extent you could argue about Ronaldo (But most of the world cup victories came through his goals).. not sure what is your point? both this players perform in world cup, leagues, etcs...? and while we are having this good discussion, Mahmudullah is getting more votes..hmmmm..South Africa players performed in world cup (they choke as a team), but they have had match winners that brought them victories for them, which Shakib can't do against big team.. in world cup..BUT TOMORROW SHAKIB WILL WIN US THE MATCH AGAINST INDIA

[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by MohammedShamim
Sister, I think you don't watch football. Messi failed in world cup? this guy single headedly took his team to the world cup final? he failed, to some extent you could argue about Ronaldo (But most of the world cup victories came through his goals).. not sure what is your point? both this players perform in world cup, leagues, etcs...? and while we are having this good discussion, Mahmudullah is getting more votes..hmmmm..South Africa players performed in world cup (they choke as a team), but they have had match winners that brought them victories for them, which Shakib can't do against big team.. in world cup..BUT TOMORROW SHAKIB WILL WIN US THE MATCH AGAINST INDIA

Our current mentality towards the players influences the vote. thus Mullah getting more votes. If you got the poll running in 2009-13 Shakib would have won by a landslide. Mushy would have won 2014-15

[MohammedShamim]

Originally Posted by Night_wolf
Our current mentality towards the players influences the vote. thus Mullah getting more votes. If you got the poll running in 2009-13 Shakib would have won by a landslide. Mushy would have won 2014-15

You are right. But had I opened a poll back then, I would have the poll question as "who is the no.1 sissy in the team" and Mahmudullah would have won also? he multi talented bro...

[simon]

I would have prefered multi-poll choices
So I give a na bhot

[Jadukor]

The whole point of this thread is to prove shakib doesnt play well under pressure. Its a narrative shamim likes and that is the whole purpose of this thread. You have proven your point. Congratulations.

[epitaph]

Regarding Shakib, some people are confusing performing under pressure with being in good form.

Currently, the best performer under pressure accolade belongs to Riyad.

In the longer run, it's been Mushy. He was that player even before he became a WC batsman some 3 yrs ago. Our top order and middle order used to fail often, and it was up to Mushy to consolidate the innings. He used to constantly play under pressure and often did a decent patch-up job. And ultimately became a WC batsman and did even more.

[MohammedShamim]

MODS PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD!

THE POLL MEANS NOTHING! NOTHING AT ALL!!! ARGH>>>> DELETE PLEASEEE

[Habib]

Lol. At least now he knows why Shakib got those votes. Also, even after the last match I would still back Riyad to be our finisher as I trust he will learn from the mistake. However, If you want to point finger at the biggest choker in our team, that has to be none other than Mushfiqur Rahim. That guy won't learn. We saw that from him in BPL as well. Well, not everybody has the nerve of steel I guess.

[NoName]

Tbf to Mushfiqur, he did seal the deal for us with those back-to-back boundaries because the Riyad that was batting today on the other end couldn't hit a boundary if his life depended on it. Rahim was in the zone, and holed out sadly we just needed Riyad and Hom to score just even a single.

[MHRAM]

Mushfiqur Rahim has had offers to play for a few RAM slam T20 sides. There has also been news reports stating that South Africa are planning to poach him

[Habib]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
Mushfiqur Rahim has had offers to play for a few RAM slam T20 sides. There has also been news reports stating that South Africa are planning to poach him

Source please?