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October 18, 2013, 08:36 AM
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#3 for odi secured?
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October 18, 2013, 09:01 AM
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#3 for odi secured?
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Let's see if he can deliver there in ODIs.
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October 18, 2013, 09:06 AM
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Knowing our players nature that is one match hit, next match flop, I do not have high expectations from him for 2nd Test. Lets see if he can prove me wrong
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October 18, 2013, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiger444
Like I've said many times, due to the 2nd openers spot and #3 being such weaknesses for a long time, we often overlook the fact that our #4 spot, especially in Tests have been a problem for so long. Ash, Raqibul and Riyad have not been the answers. Finally we've found 1 for at least the next few series.
Hope Mominul can be the answer for the long term at the #4 spot and believe he can be. This innings should give him confidence that he can succeed at this level.
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Yeah I agree. #4 spot was a problem for a long time. Hopefully now we've found our long-term solution and we can focus on the 2 top order spots. The other thing is now there's a lot of competition for the #3 spot with traditional middle order batsmen like Naeem and Riyad competing with the likes of Junaid, Jahurul, Nafees and co.
I agree with Roey with regards to Anamul and Mominul being ODI and Test specialists for the foreseeable future, although I hope both of them find form in both formats. With the emergence of Nasir and pushing Mushy upto #4 in ODIs we've managed to solve both #4 positions in the last couple of years and now we can focus on producing top order batsmen.
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October 18, 2013, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiger Manc
Yeah I agree. #4 spot was a problem for a long time. Hopefully now we've found our long-term solution and we can focus on the 2 top order spots. The other thing is now there's a lot of competition for the #3 spot with traditional middle order batsmen like Naeem and Riyad competing with the likes of Junaid, Jahurul, Nafees and co.
I agree with Roey with regards to Anamul and Mominul being ODI and Test specialists for the foreseeable future, although I hope both of them find form in both formats. With the emergence of Nasir and pushing Mushy upto #4 in ODIs we've managed to solve both #4 positions in the last couple of years and now we can focus on producing top order batsmen.
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I have the same feeling about Anamul/Mominul. I have my reservations about Anamul in ODIs too, but we'll see.
But I don't think the search for good middle order batsmen is over. What if Mushfiq/Nasir gets injured? We need good backups, yo.
#'s 2, 3, 4 in ODIs and T20s and #'s 2, 3 in Tests still up for grabs. If Tamim doesn't stop feasting on cow fat, #1 will open up soon too.
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October 18, 2013, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
I have the same feeling about Anamul/Mominul. I have my reservations about Anamul in ODIs too, but we'll see.
But I don't think the search for good middle order batsmen is over. What if Mushfiq/Nasir gets injured? We need good backups, yo.
#'s 2, 3, 4 in ODIs and T20s and #'s 2, 3 in Tests still up for grabs. If Tamim doesn't stop feasting on cow fat, #1 will open up soon too.
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Good point about the middle order. We might be fine with #'s 4-7 in both ODI's and Tests with the likes of Mushy, Nasir, Shakib, Mominul(Tests) and Riyad(ODIs) there but now we need to find some decent backups so that there's bench strength. That's the next step for us.
Naeem is a good backup to have in the middle order in Tests and ODI's. Jury's still out on Marshall and hope he ends up being the answer at #3 in Tests but we're still not sure about him yet. Then after that the cupboard seems pretty empty. Raqibul is most likely the next man up behind Naeem and Marshall. He's done decent in A team and domestics but more needs to be done before he can be strongly considered. Then don't know who would be after Raqibul. Mehrab Jr? Shabbir? But those 2 have been useless in the DPL. So we need more middle order batsmen to step up in domestics/A team.
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October 18, 2013, 05:01 PM
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naeem is surely the clear #1 back-up for the middle order right now but agree we need to develop another 4 or so who can fill in if required. i also agree raqibul seems the next likely then possibly mehrab at least in tests, shabbir should not be anywhere near the national team right now, possibly for t20s but certainly not the other formats. y'all won't like it but i'm going to say it anyway, i still think shuvagata is someone worth developing and putting time into. sure he's very inconsistent in the shorter formats but so are most fringe BD batsmen when you look at their records, and yes he's not had the best run in FC cricket recently but he's still managed to put in some scores here and there to maintain a very solid average. he looked like a fine player in his zimbabwe series and let's be honest here, other players have been given more chances based on less (nasir for example and we all know where he is at now). anyway not saying put him in the national team now, i'm saying keep developing him and giving him more chances at other levels.
for top order players tamim is still #1, anamul is currently #2 with jahurul being #3 for an opener spot but #4 for the #3 spot behind marshall who currently sits there, then junaid is the next option after those guys i reckon. soumya isn't that far away either i don't think (he played practise matches and was in the prelim squad) and shamsur has been around the team recently.
we really need to get some A series scheduled so guys like soumya, asif etc can get more experience and so we can try and weed out who is worth sticking with and who isn't.
i think junaid was ok in the DPL so he's probably helped his claims to return to the shorter format team, he could possibly get that #3 spot though he's probably contending with momiul, naeem and marshall.
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October 18, 2013, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gowza
naeem is surely the clear #1 back-up for the middle order right now but agree we need to develop another 4 or so who can fill in if required. i also agree raqibul seems the next likely then possibly mehrab at least in tests, shabbir should not be anywhere near the national team right now, possibly for t20s but certainly not the other formats. y'all won't like it but i'm going to say it anyway, i still think shuvagata is someone worth developing and putting time into. sure he's very inconsistent in the shorter formats but so are most fringe BD batsmen when you look at their records, and yes he's not had the best run in FC cricket recently but he's still managed to put in some scores here and there to maintain a very solid average. he looked like a fine player in his zimbabwe series and let's be honest here, other players have been given more chances based on less (nasir for example and we all know where he is at now). anyway not saying put him in the national team now, i'm saying keep developing him and giving him more chances at other levels.
for top order players tamim is still #1, anamul is currently #2 with jahurul being #3 for an opener spot but #4 for the #3 spot behind marshall who currently sits there, then junaid is the next option after those guys i reckon. soumya isn't that far away either i don't think (he played practise matches and was in the prelim squad) and shamsur has been around the team recently.
we really need to get some A series scheduled so guys like soumya, asif etc can get more experience and so we can try and weed out who is worth sticking with and who isn't.
i think junaid was ok in the DPL so he's probably helped his claims to return to the shorter format team, he could possibly get that #3 spot though he's probably contending with momiul, naeem and marshall.
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Shuvagata would need to perform in domestics again to be considered. If he does then I don't see why he can't make it back. But he's got his work cut out for him as the likes of Naeem, Raqibul, and Mehrab Jr are ahead of him. Even Shabbir would be ahead of Shuvagata since he's at least performed in the BPL as of recent.
As for the openers, Tamim obviously is an auto choice for all forms but needs to start firing in Tests. Anamul is the 2nd opener for all forms but needs to fire in Tests as well to solidify his position. And Jahurul should be the backup for Tests while Shamsur and Junaid should be the backup top orders for ODIs.
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October 19, 2013, 01:01 AM
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Shuvagata would need to perform in domestics again to be considered. If he does then I don't see why he can't make it back. But he's got his work cut out for him as the likes of Naeem, Raqibul, and Mehrab Jr are ahead of him. Even Shabbir would be ahead of Shuvagata since he's at least performed in the BPL as of recent.
As for the openers, Tamim obviously is an auto choice for all forms but needs to start firing in Tests. Anamul is the 2nd opener for all forms but needs to fire in Tests as well to solidify his position. And Jahurul should be the backup for Tests while Shamsur and Junaid should be the backup top orders for ODIs.
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Certainly needs to perform in domestics though not sure shabbir should be ahead of him as he's done nothing either to deserve higher honours.
I agree jahurul should be the back up opener in tests, perhaps even an option at #3 and shamsur/junaid the back-ups in shorter formats but I would really like to see some A team cricket with soumya and asif opening so we see what they got in the top order against better bowlers and at the very least for them to get done experience.
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October 19, 2013, 01:17 AM
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after first 4 matches Mominul avgs the highest among BD batsman with 68.45, 2nd is habibul basher with 47.71
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October 19, 2013, 02:24 AM
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after first 4 matches Mominul avgs the highest among BD batsman with 68.45, 2nd is habibul basher with 47.71
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No Abul? Oh wait, he hasn't played 4 tests yet, otherwise no stopping him!
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October 21, 2013, 09:48 AM
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Mominul's SR: 59.73 (test), 59.91 (ODI) and 140.00 (T20).
Average: 68.50 (test), 20.28 (ODI), and 35 (T20).
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October 21, 2013, 01:06 PM
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Mominul has scored 8 consecutive scores of 20+ since debut. That's probably a Bangladeshi record. Interested to know what the World Record is.
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October 21, 2013, 07:40 PM
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I would rather take a batsmen who cries after 181 and 47 then someone else who fokla daat ber koira hashe maraar por
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October 21, 2013, 07:47 PM
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He still has a long way to go, career just started. Consistency is the key. Occasional lapse in judgement is expected as he is still very young. We should persist with him. He is not a quitter, he is a fighter.
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October 21, 2013, 08:13 PM
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My only fear is, playing along with two T20 specialist Tamim and Shakib, he does not follow their every ball boom boom style in Test matches. He should only watch how Amla plays and follow that.
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October 22, 2013, 11:03 AM
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BD team should be required to watch a classic Amla inning everyday!
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We always seem to miss a level headed batting partner who would see the danger sign, come down the track and warn the batsman not to throw it away. I have seen Tendulkar settle the nerves of his younger counterpart many times when a rash shot is played but no one seems to do that in our team.
The ball before Mominul got out he played an ugly crossed batted heave. It was clear he lost concentration. If the batsman from the other end told him to be cool and refocus perhaps he would not have chased that wide delivery. I hope our batsman and at the non striking end keep watch of their partners and help them through the difficult periods (like helping tamim through the 90s)
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^ Was it just my imagination or did Tamim actually speak to Momin after he slashed at the first wide delivery?
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October 22, 2013, 05:44 PM
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^ Was it just my imagination or did Tamim actually speak to Momin after he slashed at the first wide delivery?
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Must be your imagination.
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October 22, 2013, 07:28 PM
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October 23, 2013, 02:18 AM
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I have noticed that on mobile version.
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October 24, 2013, 12:37 AM
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New Bangladesh record of most runs in a 2 match series surpassing Tamim Iqbal's 268.
9 consecutive scores of 20+ since debut.
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October 24, 2013, 04:31 AM
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What a revelation he's turning out to be. Proud to say I always backed him when everyone else was going gaga over Anamul. Only the second Bangladeshi to score back-to-back centuries after Tamim.
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October 24, 2013, 04:31 AM
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