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Old February 20, 2017, 06:46 PM
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Default Why Tusher Imran Failed- A curious case of Benjamin?

‘’দল ঘোষণার ঠিক আগ মুহূর্তে বিসিএলে ডাবল সেঞ্চুরি করে আলোচনায় চলে এসেছেন প্রাইম ব্যাংক দক্ষিণাঞ্চলের অভিজ্ঞ ব্যাটসম্যান তুষার ইমরান। তবে ব্যাপারটা আলোচনাতেই সীমাবদ্ধ থেকেছে। নির্বাচক কমিটির এক সদস্য আক্ষেপ করে বললেন, ‘তুষারের বিসিএলে ভালো খেলেও লাভ কী? এত দিন পর তো আর তাকে সরাসরি জাতীয় দলে নেওয়া যায় না। এই মুহূর্তে আমাদের একটা “এ” দল খুব দরকার ছিল।’ তবে তুষারের মতো ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে যাঁরা ভালো করেছেন, তাঁদের আশাবাদী করতে পারে বিসিবির ক্রিকেট পরিচালনাপ্রধান আকরাম খানের কথা, ‘যারা পারফর্ম করবে, তাদের জন্য কিন্তু দরজাটা সব সময় খোলা থাকবে।‘’ Source:Prothom Alo

BC fan (including me) might have discarded him long time back as he never blossom in national outfit. Recently, I have realised that he started his Test career when he was 20 and BD just started to play test. Except Bashar and Ash nobody actually did well in Test and eventually lost in translation. I cannot remember is anyone currently playing from that bunch. Tusher Imran is the only one who is playing well and doing exceeding well (9000 runs). Some people said he is one of the best in red ball cricket and defiantly his stats are supporting it. Furthermore, he is frequently scoring better than current national players in longer version of the game. Why did not our management try him for long period of time, why he was not given another chance and have we learnt our lessons etc. - all need to be a good case for investigation for our future Test players strategy and planning. Someone has to have a vision for our Test team; just giving opportunities to our young ODI/T20 players might not be fruitful in the long run. Test needs mature heads- no doubt about it whereas we are playing with all the young players who need couple of years to get the maturity (subject to consistency).

In my opinion, Nayeem, Nafees and Tusher Imran should get a chance in Test team as I am still thinking Somuya Sarker and Shabbir have been dragged to Test arena a bit early. I would like to see fans view of the world as well; also BD think-tank!

Tusher Imran’s recent interview:

http://m.prothom-alo.com/sports/arti...A6%BF%E2%80%99
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Old February 20, 2017, 08:05 PM
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The way I see it, we did not phase out the senior players like Akram, Bulbul etc (and ofcourse not giving Nannu test cap) in a planned way. 2000-2003 we played too many rockies and suffered so much. No wonder we did not win any International match during this time. Specially in Test match, we just gave the cap whoever scored some domestic runs in a single season. Al-Shahriar Rokon, Ehsanul Sejan, Hannan Sarkar, Sanwar Hosssin, Tushar Imran etc ... all came & go just like that. We could have done so much better if there was some sort of grooming, planning. We lost a generation of players with zero contribution in National team. Sad story indeed.
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No one should be discarded based on age. Infact its the other way around! If a player at low 30s continues to improve as a player then you know they are very motivated and driven to perform.

Players like Tushar, Alok, Nafees should still be in contention given they can perform consistently and perform better then the young guys...Experience is a very important ingredient for a good Test team.
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^well selectors had not set an example by brining back any old horse yet. All im hearing the door is open!
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Tushar got fair share of chances - he was always a good domestic player who could not convert in international. His first class average is near 40 and test average is less than 9 after 10 innings.
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And thats why we still dont have a decent test batting lineup. We wouldve been better if they gave chances to some experienced players and mix them with the rookies. The ODI team got better because they have this one guy Mash who is a veteran and he basically started taking responsibility on and off the field and using his experience to life the game for the team. But u look at our test team.. we dont have an experienced senior that is doing that. Literally everyone is playing for stats. Mushy we all know playing for stats seeing how he doesnt wanna let go of his titles and specialist position despite sucking at it, Tamim and Shakib are "Amra ebhabei kheli" type players just trying get a decent stats going for them and Riyad doesnt even have his role in the side figured out. One or 2 veterans in the side wouldve really helped in taking some leaderships (unofficially) where needed
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Always been a big fan of him. Like Alok, maybe the issue is a lack of confidence in international cricket maybe. He has the shots and patience to succeed in international cricket i think. The selectors thought so too until 2007.
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Naeem Islam got a test hundred and it is kinda inexplicable why he has been discarded from the Test squad. well, by that token Abul Hasan also got a test hundred against the same opposition.
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Though his official age is 33, he is more likely 36+ by now. That's retirement age from international cricket unless you're still super fit, and fitness was never Tushar's forte.
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He was a good batsman though-when he started. Showed a lot of maturity, was able to keep runs ticking without getting bogged down (In an era where we couldnt take singles).

Still, even now, 10 years later we lack the structure to support such players. No place for them to go improve their skills, fitness other than playing these first class games.
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This Guy is worth a good look:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...er/629059.html

Yasir Ali Chowdhury: I think he has what it takes to succeed in international cricket(maybe Tests). his first BPL game I think he got a 50.
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Though his official age is 33, he is more likely 36+ by now. That's retirement age from international cricket unless you're still super fit, and fitness was never Tushar's forte.
To verify I am not making a baseless assumption about his age, I checked his U/19 record. He last played for the U/19 team back in 1999, alongside Rajin and Hannan. He did not feature in 2000 or 2002 U/19 WC, though he was supposed to be eligible for both tourny.

Back in the time, age group players had to go through medical test to confirm their age, BCB in general did not trust certificate age.
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Tushar got fair share of chances - he was always a good domestic player who could not convert in international. His first class average is near 40 and test average is less than 9 after 10 innings.
Agreed. I have watched most of his innings. Shob shomoi practice game e valo khelto ar main game e flop. Duita char tar porer ball e out.
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Send him to A team tours. Play him on some close to international games to see how he copes with the pressure. I have seen him play live, he seemed very nervous at the international level. Maybe he has improved, but remains to be seen. His records are amazing though, but ask Graeme Hick, that doesn't always translate
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if its australia or nz or even pakistan he might get another chance but our history doesnt support it

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Tushar got fair share of chances - he was always a good domestic player who could not convert in international. His first class average is near 40 and test average is less than 9 after 10 innings.
SO you judge a player after 10 innings also, in the dark age of our test history when we always thought of surviving. How many chances Somuya got? Now Tusher is more matured. I am sure he knows his game now and applying accordingly. The point is every one should have a chance to come back and normally upgraded version do well.
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তুষার-অলকদের জন্য জাতীয় দলের দুয়ার খোলা
ক্রীড়া প্রতিবেদক | ২১ ফেব্রুয়ারি ২০১৭, ১৬:২৪
দুর্দান্ত খেলা তুষারদের নিয়ে নতুন করে ভাবতে শুরু করেছেন নির্বাচকেরা। ফাইল ছবি
দুর্দান্ত খেলা তুষারদের নিয়ে নতুন করে ভাবতে শুরু করেছেন নির্বাচকেরা। ফাইল ছবি
ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে ধারাবাহিক আলো ছড়াচ্ছেন তুষার ইমরান। জাতীয় লিগের শেষ তিন ম্যাচে টানা সেঞ্চুরি করেছেন ৩৩ বছর বয়সী ব্যাটসম্যান। ছন্দটা তিনি টেনে এনেছেন বাংলাদেশ ক্রিকেট লিগেও (বিসিএল)। বিকেএসপিতে বিসিএলের চলমান চতুর্থ রাউন্ডে বিসিবি উত্তরাঞ্চলের বিপক্ষে ডাবল সেঞ্চুরি করেছেন প্রাইম ব্যাংক দক্ষিণাঞ্চলের এই টপ অর্ডার ব্যাটসম্যান।

বিসিএল দারুণ যাচ্ছে নাঈম ইসলামেরও। বিসিবি উত্তরাঞ্চলের হয়ে তিন ম্যাচে সেঞ্চুরি করেছেন দুটি। সিলেটে দক্ষিণাঞ্চলের বিপক্ষে তো ফিরেছিলেন ডাবল সেঞ্চুরি থেকে ১৫ রান দূরে থেকে। ঘরোয়া প্রথম শ্রেণির ক্রিকেটে ধারাবাহিক ভালো খেলছেন অলক কাপালি, জুনায়েদ সিদ্দিকও। বোলিংয়ে আবদুর রাজ্জাক নিয়মিতই জাদু দেখাচ্ছেন। এবার বিসিএলেও এখনো পর্যন্ত সর্বোচ্চ উইকেটশিকারিও তিনি। বোলিংয়ে তাঁকে অবশ্য চ্যালেঞ্জ জানাচ্ছেন শুভাগত হোম। কদিন আগে ফতুল্লায় দক্ষিণাঞ্চলের বিপক্ষে ম্যাচে সেঞ্চুরি ও ১০ উইকেট নিয়ে হইচই ফেলে দিলেন এই অলরাউন্ডার।
এই যে তুষার, নাঈম, জুনায়েদ, অলক, রাজ্জাকদের কথা বলা হচ্ছে, প্রত্যেকের কিন্তু টেস্ট খেলার অভিজ্ঞতা আছে। সময়ের স্রোতে তাঁদের সামনে এখন কঠিন বাস্তবতা। জাতীয় দলের দরজাটা কি তবে বন্ধই হয়ে গেল? শ্রীলঙ্কার বিপক্ষে টেস্ট সিরিজ সামনে রেখে আজ ১৬ সদস্যের দল ঘোষণা করেছে বিসিবি। সেই তালিকায় তুষার-রাজ্জাকদের ঠাঁই হয়নি। কিন্তু ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে যাঁরা দুর্দান্ত খেলছেন তাঁদের ভবিষ্যৎ কী? জাতীয় দলের দরজাটা কি তবে বন্ধই হয়ে গেল তাঁদের জন্য?
তুষারদের ফের জাতীয় দলে সুযোগ পাওয়া নিয়ে বিসিবির প্রধান নির্বাচক মিনহাজুল আবেদীন কিছু বাস্তবতা তুলে ধরলেন, ‘‘অনেক দিন আমাদের ‘এ’ দলের সফর হচ্ছে না। গত এক বছর এইচপির (হাইপারফরম্যান্স) কোনো প্রোগ্রামও আমরা করতে পারিনি। ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেট থেকেই এখানে খেলোয়াড় আসে। আমাদের ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে বেশ কিছু খেলোয়াড় কিছুদিন ধরেই অসাধারণ খেলছে। নাম যদি বলি, তুষার ইমরান ও অলক কাপালিরা ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে ভালো করছে। এদের একটা প্ল্যাটফর্ম আমাদের দিতে হবে।’’
মিনহাজুলের কথায় তাই আশা খুঁজে পেতে পারেন তুষার-রাজ্জাকরা, ‘‘অবশ্যই এরা আমাদের নজরে আছে। বয়সের জন্য তারা আমাদের নজরের বাইরে চলে যাইনি। তবে তাদের আন্তর্জাতিক ক্রিকেটে ফিরতে হলে অবশ্যই ‘এ’ দল কিংবা এইচপি দলের হয়ে কোনো সফর করতে হবে। তখন বোঝা যাবে তাদের অবস্থাটা আসলে কেমন।’’
ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটে দুর্দান্ত খেলা ক্রিকেটারদের সরাসরি কেন জাতীয় দলে সুযোগ দিতে চান না নির্বাচকেরা? তারও ব্যাখ্যা দিলেন মিনহাজুল, ‘‘আমাদের ঘরোয়া ক্রিকেটের মান নিয়ে সব সময় কথা হয়। বিকেএসপিতে যে উইকেটে খেলা হয়, বিশ্বের আর কোনো দেশে এত ফ্ল্যাট উইকেটে খেলা হয় না। যারা রান করছে তাদের সুযোগ দিতে (জাতীয় দলে) গেলে আগে একটা প্ল্যাটফর্ম আগে তৈরি করতে হবে। সেখানে তাদের পারফরম্যান্স দেখে জাতীয় দলের জন্য বিবেচনা করা হবে। এখন ২৪জন খেলোয়াড়ের একটা পুল আছে। ‘এ’ দলের সফরটা যদি হয় তখন তাদের একটা সুযোগ দিতে পারব।


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SO you judge a player after 10 innings also, in the dark age of our test history when we always thought of surviving. How many chances Somuya got? Now Tusher is more matured. I am sure he knows his game now and applying accordingly. The point is every one should have a chance to come back and normally upgraded version do well.
Can't compare apple with orange my friend. Soumya after playing 9 test innings averages about 32. His ODI average is over 40.

Its not just that Tushar got out cheaply... its also how he got out. His was technically very flawed batsman.. just like Ehsanul Haque Sezan... great in domestic circle where you get 1-2 bad balls every over but not in international arena where you rarely get bad balls.

You don't have to agree with me - just give him another chance, you will know what I mean. I have lived through those nightmares and I rather not go through those again.

Btw, you know how Tushar got out in his highest test score (28 runs)? STUMPED! Stumped in a test match! Let that sink in for a bit!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63996.html

I rest my case.
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remember him very well from those test and odi innings. Stands tall and plays his shots. Looks like Damien Martyn when on song.

But question is, should we bring a veteran back or give chances to player like mosaddek/Shanto.

Also the domestics stats (esp when BCL is absent of national players) seems always sketchy to me. Even Sohrawardi Shuvo and Elias Sunnys scores centuries at will.
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Have you people seen him bat, he had flawed technique, he was vulnerable both on outside and inside of the bat
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^^ Not a Tushar fan either, but that was ten years ago though (unless you went to ground to watch him play in domestics recently). It may not be impossible for him to tighten up his techniques since then.
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Just curious, but a curious case of which Benjamin?
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^^ Not a Tushar fan either, but that was ten years ago though (unless you went to ground to watch him play in domestics recently). It may not be impossible for him to tighten up his techniques since then.
No, am going from back then, but am mostly responding to those giving examples of other players, other players that came good after a while always had decent technique
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