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I hate to say this but....
Please dont get me wrongg...please...indians deserved the world cup, they were the better team, but what i am going to say right now is nothing to do with them, or else people might misunderstand i am implicity not givinf credit to India...my question is regarding the final itself....i dont want to believe, but those small things keep haunting me.....if anyone saw the live telecast of the final....have u seen that missed runout chance by sanga while gambhir dived, and the misfield of malinga to allow the ball to cross the boundary rope...why does it look to me that they WERE DELIBERATE....although i dont want...I mean there is no excuse....because in both the cases....sangkkara's jump was very unnatural, he's done some great stumpings and runouts, and regarding malinga's misfield, dew shouldnt be an excuse, because he dint even try to get a get a finger to it....why do i feel that this was SCRIPTED.....people might talk to me then tendulkar should have got a hundred if it was scripted, but leave all that aside...i am a cricket fan itself, and i hate to say all these things, but those two instances has been haunting me for the past two days.....and i just want all the members to express their viewpoints about those two instances itself and not derail the topic that if this was fixed, if this was that and all.....
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April 3, 2011, 08:21 PM
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Not really.
I am speaking entirely as myself, but I am getting extremely tired, annoyed and exasperated at all the conspiracy theorists crawling out of the woodwork.
Can you possibly conceive of the amount of deception and number of people involved to make this happen?
If India and Sri Lanka can pull this off, they would also have put a monkey on the moon by know and a woman on Mars and a man on Venus.
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April 3, 2011, 08:49 PM
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April 3, 2011, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace of BD
Please dont get me wrongg...please...indians deserved the world cup, they were the better team, but what i am going to say right now is nothing to do with them, or else people might misunderstand i am implicity not givinf credit to India...my question is regarding the final itself....i dont want to believe, but those small things keep haunting me.....if anyone saw the live telecast of the final....have u seen that missed runout chance by sanga while gambhir dived, and the misfield of malinga to allow the ball to cross the boundary rope...why does it look to me that they WERE DELIBERATE....although i dont want...I mean there is no excuse....because in both the cases....sangkkara's jump was very unnatural, he's done some great stumpings and runouts, and regarding malinga's misfield, dew shouldnt be an excuse, because he dint even try to get a get a finger to it....why do i feel that this was SCRIPTED.....people might talk to me then tendulkar should have got a hundred if it was scripted, but leave all that aside...i am a cricket fan itself, and i hate to say all these things, but those two instances has been haunting me for the past two days.....and i just want all the members to express their viewpoints about those two instances itself and not derail the topic that if this was fixed, if this was that and all.....
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April 3, 2011, 09:51 PM
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I swear some of you guys are too much. Ok we get you are not happy with India winning the Cup. But guess what they won, so deal with it. If it kiils you that much than just take a break from cricket. By all means please spare us from the crazy conspiracy theory.
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April 3, 2011, 10:18 PM
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@Ace of BD -If this was not scripted,who do you think would have won the cup?
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April 3, 2011, 10:30 PM
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Guys dont misunderstand me....i am just talking abt that two instances, maybe scripted wasnt the right thing to say, but were Sanga and co. forced into playing like that....they just dint look like lankan lions out there
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April 4, 2011, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace of BD
Guys dont misunderstand me....i am just talking abt that two instances, maybe scripted wasnt the right thing to say, but were Sanga and co. forced into playing like that....they just dint look like lankan lions out there
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Can you cite an example where your supported team won and you believe the other team was 'forced to play in a way to lose'?
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April 4, 2011, 02:50 PM
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A few matches were definitely fixed.
1. India - Bangladesh: I think the way Tamim batted despite BD needing 350+ runs - something looked fishy. Also, Shafiul had clearly fallen into the hands of the bookies the way he bolwed.
2. England - Ireland: One site had the odds of Ireland winning at 400-1. With that kind of odds, there is enough at stake to buy the whole english team 10 times over.
3. England - India: Clearly, the Indian bowlers had worked with the bookies to let the match slip out towards the end after Strauss had worked out his fee with the bookies to ensure an English win.
4. Pakistan - Windies: Sarwan and Chanders were definitely paid big by the bookies to refuse to play any shot.
5. India - South Africa: Dhone was paid by the bookies to let a toothless Nehra bowl the final over when even Sachin would've defended 14 runs in one over (he has actually defended 6 runs in the last over before).
6. India - Pakistan: This is fixed - every ball of it.
7. India - SL: We all know it was fixed. Countless proofs.
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April 4, 2011, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace of BD
Guys dont misunderstand me....i am just talking abt that two instances, maybe scripted wasnt the right thing to say, but were Sanga and co. forced into playing like that....they just dint look like lankan lions out there
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They dropped Morgan 4 times duh !! Was that scripted too?
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April 3, 2011, 10:32 PM
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And i have cleared myself in the first three lines.......its nothing to do with Inida here
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April 3, 2011, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ace of BD
Please dont get me wrongg...please...indians deserved the world cup, they were the better team, but what i am going to say right now is nothing to do with them, or else people might misunderstand i am implicity not givinf credit to India...my question is regarding the final itself....i dont want to believe, but those small things keep haunting me.....if anyone saw the live telecast of the final....have u seen that missed runout chance by sanga while gambhir dived, and the misfield of malinga to allow the ball to cross the boundary rope...why does it look to me that they WERE DELIBERATE....although i dont want...I mean there is no excuse....because in both the cases....sangkkara's jump was very unnatural, he's done some great stumpings and runouts, and regarding malinga's misfield, dew shouldnt be an excuse, because he dint even try to get a get a finger to it....why do i feel that this was SCRIPTED.....people might talk to me then tendulkar should have got a hundred if it was scripted, but leave all that aside...i am a cricket fan itself, and i hate to say all these things, but those two instances has been haunting me for the past two days.....and i just want all the members to express their viewpoints about those two instances itself and not derail the topic that if this was fixed, if this was that and all.....
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Isn't it entirely possible that they just screwed up on those two plays.... It's a final. Players get nervous, especially in the oppositions home crowd. Just because of two plays, you want to call fixing/scripting?
And honestly, do you really think they would throw the world cup final... Honestly... The amount of honour this will bring to them and their families.
As for Sangakarra's jump, he jumped cause the throw was off. If he didn't, it would have been a misfield.
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April 3, 2011, 11:47 PM
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April 4, 2011, 12:05 AM
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man..i feel a lot beeter....when i think bout it..tbh guys....i was getting affected by reading various reports.....i agree i got into the trap...wheewww thanks for u guys.......i slowly was starting to believe in all this load of bs
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April 4, 2011, 12:16 AM
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Ace of BD, was sachin also being 'forced' to play badly against pakistan ? truth is, even greats have their bad days and the pressure of a WC final gets to them. sanga just had an off-day in the field.
the whole Indian team was physically sick throughout the tournament out of mental stress alone, yuvi couldn't sleep and was vomiting, bhajji had digestion problems and so on.
these guys are human too.
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April 4, 2011, 12:35 AM
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now people know
How WELL + Sensibly Bangladesh Batted against the to be world champs on February 19th 2011...
and how fielding first was indeed the correct decision...now people know! even if it was against a mighty batting lineup: our bowlers just had stage fright that day. That's all folks! otherwise, we could have very easily restricted them below 300 if the world cup hype and emotions didn't get to their heads. but why blame them? they are young... and they are just learning how to deal with media hype + pressure. i would cut them some slack on this one!
my point is essentially this:
Eventually, to be successful in international cricket: Bangladesh Cricket Players need to learn how to handle Fan pressure. perhaps SR Tendulkar can give our players some 'tips' on this issue! if we do not overcome fan expectation then forget 58 and 78 all out..we will see more of them!
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April 4, 2011, 12:58 AM
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If SL were destroying everyone before them, I would be suspicious. But India on paper were the better team, that said I dont think we should a knee jerk reaction to every so called conspiracy theory.
I personally found the body language of the Sri Lankans after the 10th over onwards to be very very negative
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india also chased down a similar target against Aussies .....
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April 4, 2011, 02:35 AM
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There is no shortage for conspiracy theories. From today's Daily Times which is the second (?) biggest newspaper in Pakistan :
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The IT hubs of Bengaluru worked overtime to provide Tendulkar the escape in the Decision Referral System (DRS) when he was actually plumb on an arm ball of Saeed Ajmal.
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Unfortunately, the idiots of Bengaluru forgot to mess with the UDRS when Sehwag was out in the semifinal and the final.
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp...4-4-2011_pg3_2
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For all the amazing geniuses at the IT hub at Bengaluru, doesn't India have the worst UDRS success rate this WC? No wonder all the IT work is now moving further offshore to Vietnam.
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April 4, 2011, 03:32 AM
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For all the amazing geniuses at the IT hub at Bengaluru, doesn't India have the worst UDRS success rate this WC? No wonder all the IT work is now moving further offshore to Vietnam.
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nope, sri lanka, NZ and IIRC pakistan all have worse success rates. India's success rate was around the median value.
what has UDRS success rate got to do with IT hub anyway ?
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For all the amazing geniuses at the IT hub at Bengaluru, doesn't India have the worst UDRS success rate this WC? No wonder all the IT work is now moving further offshore to Vietnam.
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Zunaid, Hi. Your comment on Vietnam caught me by surprise. I travel to Ha Noi once a month. We have implemented some solutions for Vinafone and Mobifone - two of their largest Mobile operators. The problems that we face there are (a) Lack of English speakers (b) No home grwon software support and (c) Lack of dedicated data centres.
In terms of strategic gaps, considering the fact that I actually interact with Software engineers in Vietnam - Vietnam is behind India in capabilty by as much as Surinam is to the US. The gap even in Tier 1 capabilities would mean 22% growth year on year for the next 40 years for them to catch up with India. Forget for a moment moving up the value chain - just basic data centre operations, availability of E1, T2, T3 Line capability will take a minimum investment of USD 500 mill and around 10 years. Satellite availability is very very low. So no, as of now - we don't have to worry about competeing with Vietnam - my required presence there every month is a fair proof of that fact - or else I would have to look for newer opportunities......cheers
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I think he was joking there.
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I think he was joking there.
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You think?
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April 4, 2011, 04:49 AM
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Zunaid, Hi. Your comment on Vietnam caught me by surprise. I travel to Ha Noi once a month. We have implemented some solutions for Vinafone and Mobifone - two of their largest Mobile operators. The problems that we face there are (a) Lack of English speakers (b) No home grwon software support and (c) Lack of dedicated data centres.
In terms of strategic gaps, considering the fact that I actually interact with Software engineers in Vietnam - Vietnam is behind India in capabilty by as much as Surinam is to the US. The gap even in Tier 1 capabilities would mean 22% growth year on year for the next 40 years for them to catch up with India. Forget for a moment moving up the value chain - just basic data centre operations, availability of E1, T2, T3 Line capability will take a minimum investment of USD 500 mill and around 10 years. Satellite availability is very very low. So no, as of now - we don't have to worry about competeing with Vietnam - my required presence there every month is a fair proof of that fact - or else I would have to look for newer opportunities......cheers
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Could ...... not .... resist .....(j/k, please read after the picture)
Off topic: I have had offshore teams in several countries - India, Costa Rica, Russia so am familiar with the scene. I have used developers from Kalyan Rao's new group (he of the Satyam fame) and I think if anything India needs to cautious about East European competition more than Asian particularly because India appears to be moving out of the low skill data entry, phone support outsourcing to higher value work. In fact, I did an ROI and it started to get cheaper for me to higher in US developers than offshore developers for the kind of high-end work we did - the time to market offset any minor $ savings. Unfortunately for me, I could not opt for Bangladesh as the net infrastructure is not there yet - my work involves massive amount of data processing both locally and on the cloud.
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