|
Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket
|
March 23, 2010, 12:13 PM
|
|
Cricket Legend
|
|
Join Date: May 12, 2007
Location: London, England
Favorite Player: Shakib/Anamul
Posts: 2,355
|
|
Another infamous Bangladeshi collapse
So once again today we were in a fairly good position and needed to put on a decent score for England to chase, but once again our boys failed to put enough runs on the board. We are also 6 wickets down. Its so heartaching seeing the same thing happen again and again. Whenever England come to bat this pitch seems as flat as a pancake but as soon as Bangladesh come to bat its like all of a sudden it turns into a bowlers paradise!!!!!
When are these guys gonna learn uffffffffff
__________________
COME ON Bangladesh We Are Behind You All The Way
|
March 23, 2010, 12:38 PM
|
|
Cricket Sage
|
|
Join Date: February 18, 2004
Location: New York City
Favorite Player: Mominul, Nasir, Taskin
Posts: 24,918
|
|
it wasn't a collapse per se...such batting is typical in test cricket - i.e markedly low 3rd and 4th innings score due to fatigue, pressure, and in our case de facto cheating on the part of the english due to the umpires.
our boys are only human and only so much can be expected of them. they're not robots.
what they have endured is similar to mild torture and expecting no reaction is just being even more cruel. blame the real culprits: the umpires and the BCB for not springing for the UDRS first chance they got. and Nimbus if they're overcharging us. even the english team cannot be blamed.
__________________
Bangladesh: Our Dream, Our Joy, Our Team
#OneTeam1Dream
|
March 23, 2010, 12:42 PM
|
ODI Cricketer
|
|
Join Date: March 18, 2006
Location: Dominica, West Indies
Favorite Player: Lara & Ashraful
Posts: 710
|
|
Except Tamim, all were out with genuine good ball. Yesterday, Tamim was not comfortable at all. His mindset was totally different than what was on the offer from the pitch and bowlers. Pitch was turning considerably. Hope BD bowlers can produce some of those bowling tomorrow.
|
March 23, 2010, 12:43 PM
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: October 16, 2006
Location: Doha, Qatar
Favorite Player: Mash,Shakib,Tamim
Posts: 7,046
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by al Furqaan
it wasn't a collapse per se...such batting is typical in test cricket - i.e markedly low 3rd and 4th innings score due to fatigue, pressure, and in our case de facto cheating on the part of the english due to the umpires.
our boys are only human and only so much can be expected of them. they're not robots.
what they have endured is similar to mild torture and expecting no reaction is just being even more cruel. blame the real culprits: the umpires and the BCB for not springing for the UDRS first chance they got. and Nimbus if they're overcharging us. even the english team cannot be blamed.
|
|
March 23, 2010, 01:01 PM
|
|
Super Moderator BC Editorial Team
|
|
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,678
|
|
Going into England's tour of Bangladesh, my expectation was 0-3 in the ODIs and two fifth-day stints in the Tests with possibly a draw. That I thought was a realistic expectation and I'm not complaining. Batting in the second inning of the last game of the tour in hot and humid conditions is difficult and ideally, we'd declare at 200 and set them a target of 350, i.e. had the umpires not been so incompetent. England didn't have to score much in the second inning of the first Test either, thanks to a good first inning lead. When you score as many runs as we did here (419), you shouldn't have to bat equally well in your second inning provided your bowlers do their jobs (which they did) and the umpires aren't crap (which they're not; I mean they're not not crap).
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
|
March 23, 2010, 01:03 PM
|
Club Cricketer
|
|
Join Date: April 19, 2007
Favorite Player: Tamim
Posts: 117
|
|
This is no collapse. BD batting has definitely improved, though the bowling has declined, Atherton brought out a good point: the reason weaker sides seem to get more wrong decisions are because they create fewer chances.. with our weak bowling we created fewer chances and the incompetent umpires failed to give the few that were out.
If there is Justice in this world, this test will be a draw, Shakib & Co. need to now grind it out.. (though bowling 66 overs can take a toll on Shak) I wish they could have turned their anger into concentration in batting and lost fewer wickets.. but still possible.. still
|
March 23, 2010, 01:06 PM
|
|
Cricket Guru
|
|
Join Date: August 27, 2007
Posts: 14,497
|
|
IMO, English fielders made up for all the bad umpirings with number of dropped catches (both in 1st and 3rd innings), it will be a real shame if we still lose.
|
March 23, 2010, 01:15 PM
|
Test Cricketer
|
|
Join Date: March 10, 2009
Location: lendon
Favorite Player: TIK47
Posts: 1,899
|
|
Our bowlers except for shakib were not potent enough and allowed (with some help from the umpires) the english to rescue the match. Unless we bowl exceptionally well tommorrow we cant win or draw. I think the maximum runs the last few batsmen can get tommorrow will be another 15 if they play well.
__________________
Cats Graduated to TIGERS 17-10-2010
|
March 23, 2010, 01:46 PM
|
ODI Cricketer
|
|
Join Date: December 27, 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 780
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eshen
IMO, English fielders made up for all the bad umpirings with number of dropped catches (both in 1st and 3rd innings), it will be a real shame if we still lose.
|
How come that makes up what umpire did to us? We would have taken a lead of at least 100 runs, and think about the moral boost had it happened. Nothing to be ashamed of for the BD team, especially after the way they played so far even if the result is a loss. If someone has to be ashamed it's those crocked umpires.
|
March 23, 2010, 01:53 PM
|
|
Cricket Sage
|
|
Join Date: February 18, 2004
Location: New York City
Favorite Player: Mominul, Nasir, Taskin
Posts: 24,918
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eshen
IMO, English fielders made up for all the bad umpirings with number of dropped catches (both in 1st and 3rd innings), it will be a real shame if we still lose.
|
there is a difference still. when u drop catches u can only blame the other team. thats part of the game. getting half of the wrong decisions is also part of the game.
but getting 1 out of 10 howlers is not part of the game, even if the 50-50 decisions are split.
being struck on the pads plumb in front is technically out, regardless of what the umpire says. that is definition of "leg before wicket". the umpires job is adjudge it...he cannot change reality.
however a dropped catch is simply a dropped catch. it is not technically out, because the laws of cricket state that catches have to be held for a batsmen to be out.
__________________
Bangladesh: Our Dream, Our Joy, Our Team
#OneTeam1Dream
|
March 23, 2010, 02:14 PM
|
Cricket Guru
|
|
Join Date: March 3, 2007
Favorite Player: Love them all....
Posts: 14,685
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eshen
IMO, English fielders made up for all the bad umpirings with number of dropped catches (both in 1st and 3rd innings), it will be a real shame if we still lose.
|
No way!!!
Starting an innings with 77 runs deficit is not the same as starting the innings with more than 100 runs lead. You also have to consider that our batsmen have been less tired while coming to bat as they were expected to start the innings yesterday.
__________________
And Allah Knows the best
Last edited by WarWolf; March 23, 2010 at 02:42 PM..
|
March 23, 2010, 07:00 PM
|
Test Cricketer
|
|
Join Date: January 31, 2004
Location: UK
Favorite Player: Shakib Al Hasan
Posts: 1,200
|
|
the truth of the matter is that we chose razzak to bowl, he just wasn't good enough, we have no murali in our line-up so we have to take advantage ofthe limited we have, razzak was too wayward and just not up to the mark;
he has never been great in tests and i hope this isthe last we see of him - we shud have shuvo and saqlain and train them as much as possible
|
March 23, 2010, 07:12 PM
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: March 11, 2010
Favorite Player: Ashraful♥Raqibul foreve
Posts: 1,063
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by fais
the truth of the matter is that we chose razzak to bowl, he just wasn't good enough, we have no murali in our line-up so we have to take advantage ofthe limited we have, razzak was too wayward and just not up to the mark;
he has never been great in tests and i hope this isthe last we see of him - we shud have shuvo and saqlain and train them as much as possible
|
We should hire Murali as a coach when he retires.
|
March 23, 2010, 07:23 PM
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: July 12, 2009
Favorite Player: Rev. Dave Chappelle
Posts: 231
|
|
better teams have beater bowlers who create more opportunities.
weaker teams create fewer chances so the decisions get magnified.
its the harsh truth guys.
Ex: Tamim got dropped 4 times yesterday, still they picked him up within a few balls.
|
March 23, 2010, 09:56 PM
|
|
Cricket Savant
|
|
Join Date: December 23, 2007
Location: The Quiet Place
Favorite Player: Curtly Ambrose
Posts: 27,469
|
|
the difference was the wickets did not fall in quick succession. a partnership was starting to grow run wise or delivery wise and the a wicket fell. it was not a sudden collapse. it was more like wickets at regular interval.
the frustatitng thing is .... we should have got a lead of 120 where we got a deficit of 77. that is 120+77= 197 runs. so actually at this point we could have been 95+197=292 run lead.
anyway we are improving. lets keep on going. we will have a tough time in england. but we also expected tough time at NZ but we did well. so lets try to do well in england too.
then back home in NZ......... i fancy our test win
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:53 AM.
|
|