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May 14, 2014, 11:49 AM
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Chappell details player rating method
First it was Major League Baseball at the Sydney Cricket Ground, now Cricket Australia has revealed the country’s chief cricket body utilises a complex player ratings system from a concept shared by the Boston Red Sox.
National Talent Manager and former Test captain Greg Chappell offered the insight this week during a presentation at the AFL’s national talent forum in Melbourne, where he identified the Red Sox as one of several world sporting bodies achieving best practice in the field of talent identification and development.
The system ranks over 500 players from under-17’s right through to state and international cricketers on a sliding scale from 20 to 80. Players assigned a rating of 60 or above are those deemed talented enough to play at Test level, while state-level cricketers earn a minimum rating of 50.
The highest level, a rating of 80, is reserved for exceptional talent the calibre of past legends Don Bradman and Shane Warne.
Players are ranked across different categories such as batting, bowling, fielding and wicketkeeping, as well as character and attitude.
Each player is assigned a current rating and a projected rating, thereby identifying the future stars of Australian cricket from an early age.
The projected rating figure assists CA with initiatives such as succession planning, and where to focus training and development resources in order to achieve the most beneficial outcomes.
Attributes such as game awareness, execution of plans, athleticism and anticipation are key elements across the four game-sense categories, with character and attitude the only measure that does not contain a projected rating.
The rating tool prioritises performance and attributes, rather than simply focusing on athletic prowess and technique.
Players are rated a minimum of three times a year by state talent managers and the National Selection Panel, which provides a quick reference of all the players in the Australian cricket system in order to help prioritise talent resources across the country.
Chappell said the rating system is not only a guide for today, but a look to the future in recognition of the fact the game is always evolving.
He also identified the Brazilian soccer team, New Zealand’s All Blacks and Australia’s hockey program as world leaders in discovering talent and developing their athletes to perform at the highest level.
An interesting read:
http://www.cricket.com.au/news-list/...er-rating-tool
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May 14, 2014, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 5tonne
Chappell details player rating method
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Players are ranked across different categories such as batting, bowling, fielding and wicketkeeping, as well as character and attitude.
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Attributes such as game awareness, execution of plans, athleticism and anticipation are key elements across the four game-sense categories, with character and attitude the only measure that does not contain a projected rating.
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The rating tool prioritises performance and attributes, rather than simply focusing on athletic prowess and technique...
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I wonder how can someone rate bunch of players on this? What are the criterias on characters and attitude? Seems like, not knowing the details, Sobers would fail. If Sobers fails, then the system is incorrect. My 2 cent.
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May 14, 2014, 01:57 PM
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What's the max rating for our players? A 10?
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May 14, 2014, 09:57 PM
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I wonder how can someone rate bunch of players on this? What are the criterias on characters and attitude? Seems like, not knowing the details, Sobers would fail. If Sobers fails, then the system is incorrect. My 2 cent.
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Why would Sobers fail?
I'm huge into quants. Done right, insights derived from data is invaluable.
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May 14, 2014, 09:58 PM
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Not quaints?
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May 14, 2014, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Zunaid
Why would Sobers fail?
I'm huge into quants. Done right, insights derived from data is invaluable.
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Off field character.
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May 25, 2014, 05:53 AM
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Could it be that "Moneyball" type Sabermetrics has hit cricket? If so, then it's great news for teams like Bangladesh, provided our scouts and selectors have a clear understanding of the process. Sadly, they don't yet
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June 2, 2014, 06:52 AM
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Richard McInnes Manager / Head coach, National Cricket Academy Former BD U19 Coach
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Interestingly we tried to implement this type of system in Bangladesh in 2012, but could not get the selection panel at senior or youth level to support the concept.
You can establish a range of qualities that you wish to assess players on, they are not fixed, although some qualities have been shown over history across multiple countries and sports to be consistent in identifying the players who go on to become the best or champions.
The benefit of this type of rating and projections is to refine your selection process, to ensure you are investing the time and resources in the players "most likely" to "succeed" at the highest level. one of the issues within BD cricket is trying to work with too many players and not having the time or space to actually do enough with them to get them to the level required to succeed. It is catch 22 situation, as you want to develop enough players to have a good first class and domestic system, but at the same time really have to focus on investing in 20 or 30 players to ensure the national team is performing well.
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June 2, 2014, 07:55 AM
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Thanks for still hanging around coach.
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