ICC Constitution Revamp

[Mas_UK25]

BD will get more of the slice let's hope BCB standa firm against BCCI not like they invited us for full tour 1 test in 27 years, pffft!!

I'm sure Papon, is in favour of this. PPL saying India throwing series at us.LOL, long gone are the early 00s days my friends...

[horizon]

Originally Posted by brockley
HOW THE ICC REVENUES WILL BE SPLIT (2015-2023 RIGHTS CYCLE)
ICC Gross Revenues
(In US$) 2.5 Billion 2.6 Billion 2.7 Billion 2.8 Billion 2.9 Billion 3 Billion
BCCI 255-260 270-275 285-290 305-310 320-325 335-340
ECB 120-125 130-135 135-140 145-150 155-160 160-165
CA 110-115 120-125 125-130 135-140 140-145 150-155
CSA 110-115 120-125 125-130 135-140 140-145 150-155
PCB 110-115 120-125 125-130 135-140 140-145 150-155
WICB 110-115 120-125 125-130 135-140 140-145 150-155
NZC 110-115 120-125 125-130 135-140 140-145 150-155
SLC 110-115 120-125 125-130 135-140 140-145 150-155
BCB 110-115 120-125 125-130 135-140 140-145 150-155
ZC 75-80 80-85 85-90 90-95 95-100 105-110
IRE 50-55 55-60 55-60 60-65 65-70 70-75
AFG 50-55 55-60 55-60 60-65 65-70 70-75

Read this one to understand where BCCI has objections.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/c...y/1081733.html

With IPL & mini-IPL in horizon, money is probably not the biggest issue anymore.

[brockley]

You have not argued why BCCI needs double all the other boards.
Why do they need that much money,sure 80% is generated by India,but their will be 12 nations.Shouldnn't it be socialist,and we want to grow the game,5.5 million a year for test nations to be Ireland and Afghanistan a year is redicolous.

[horizon]

Originally Posted by brockley
You have not argued why BCCI needs double all the other boards.
Why do they need that much money,sure 80% is generated by India,but their will be 12 nations.Shouldnn't it be socialist,and we want to grow the game,5.5 million a year for test nations to be Ireland and Afghanistan a year is redicolous.

What do you think a board does? It serves the population. If you add the population of rest of the cricket countries you won't get Indian one. Development of cricket in India is the primary purpose of BCCI, among 1.2 billion poor Indians it takes money. Do you really think a board of SL would need the same amount of money as that of India to run the cricket board?

[Vepu]

Originally Posted by horizon
What do you think a board does? It serves the population. If you add the population of rest of the cricket countries you won't get Indian one. Development of cricket in India is the primary purpose of BCCI, among 1.2 billion poor Indians it takes money. Do you really think a board of SL would need the same amount of money as that of India to run the cricket board?

You guys talk like BCCI is the poorest board of all. BCCI is the richest board and in no way struggling when it comes to money.
You are greedy when you have more than enough but still want more.

[Neel Here]

Originally Posted by brockley
You have not argued why BCCI needs double all the other boards.
Why do they need that much money,sure 80% is generated by India,but their will be 12 nations.Shouldnn't it be socialist,and we want to grow the game,5.5 million a year for test nations to be Ireland and Afghanistan a year is redicolous.

this is simply a new form of colonialism and exploitation.

in the british raj era India was looted to bankroll the british empire around the world and now ICC (I mean ECB & CA) expect to do the same to fund themselves. naked greed, jealousy & thieving mentality on display.

how is it remotely fair that the country that brings in 70-80% of the revenue receives as much share as ones that bring 1-2 %. heck, if ICC tries to strongarm this I would rather BCCI move out of ICC altogether. I would like to see how much money other member countries have to share around then.

[horizon]

Originally Posted by Vepu
You guys talk like BCCI is the poorest board of all. BCCI is the richest board and in no way struggling when it comes to money.
You are greedy when you have more than enough but still want more.

BCCI doesn't do what it is supposed to do. That is why it is not struggling. If BCCI starts making toilets in each of indias cricket grounds they will exhaust all budget.

[Neel Here]

Originally Posted by Vepu
You guys talk like BCCI is the poorest board of all. BCCI is the richest board and in no way struggling when it comes to money.
You are greedy when you have more than enough but still want more.

reminds me of the ant and grasshopper story.

whatever BCCI has is earned by itself,it's not as if other boards are paying BCCI that money. just because it is competent, hence rich and other boards are mostly incompetent and hence poor does not give them a right to steal that money to cover up their incompetence.

oh btw, please tell me how much revenue ECB and ACB (as CA was known back then) shared among poorer boards when they were the richest boards and running ICC from 1950's - 1990 's ?
even now, why is it only BCCI that is expected to part with its hard earned resources and not CA or ECB ? you are getting duped and you dont realize it. in a few years when BCB becomes richer they will come for you in the same way. I would love to see how you like it then !!

[horizon]

BCCI is the richest board is equivalent of saying India is richer than Singapore.

[Vepu]

Originally Posted by horizon
Read this one to understand where BCCI has objections.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/c...y/1081733.html

With IPL & mini-IPL in horizon, money is probably not the biggest issue anymore.

There are other t20 leagues around the world. Big bash, cpl, bpl, psl, slpl. SA starting their own t20 league. You dont see any1 complaining except bcci. Every1 is happy to have more int. Cricket but bcci.
If you want a window for IPL with no other int. Cricket going on for over a month than bcci should allow 7 foreign players in the X1

[Neel Here]

vepu, did you bother reading the article ??

clearly, no. the word IPL doesn't even occur in it. only you imagined it must be about some IPL window and are ranting about it.

the objection is about unilateral increase in ICC's costs without a cap (things like 5 star hotel bills, business class tickets for ICC staff and so on) which is cutting share of all boards in the new plan.

[horizon]

^ Other than that, not much for Associates and less funds for Afghanistan and Ireland are the core issues to me.

[Neel Here]

Originally Posted by horizon
^ Other than that, not much for Associates and less funds for Afghanistan and Ireland are the core issues to me.

if BCCI's share is going to be cut I would rather it go in-toto to ire, afg and the associates.

rich boards like CA, ECB, CSA do not need handouts from BCCI. they are big boys, should be able to look after themselves without needing handouts.

[horizon]

Originally Posted by Neel Here
if BCCI's share is going to be cut I would rather it go in-toto to ire, afg and the associates.

rich boards like CA, ECB, CSA do not need handouts from BCCI. they are big boys, should be able to look after themselves without needing handouts.

That's the point.

[Vepu]

Look we hardly care how much BCB getting as long as we get to play the big boys more often. Take more money if you want but do not scrap the 9/3 model.

[Neel Here]

I dont think anyone has a problem with the 9-3 model unless ICC explicitly makes passing the financial model a pre-condition for passing the 9-3 model.

[Vepu]

Originally Posted by Neel Here
I dont think anyone has a problem with the 9-3 model unless ICC explicitly makes passing the financial model a pre-condition for passing the 9-3 model.

Bcci wants to scrap the whole plan bcs they are not getting enough money. Thats our concern

[horizon]

Originally Posted by Vepu
Bcci wants to scrap the whole plan bcs they are not getting enough money. Thats our concern

That's my concern too ... walkout from ICc is better than this.

[Neel Here]

Originally Posted by Vepu
Bcci wants to scrap the whole plan bcs they are not getting enough money. Thats our concern

where are you getting that from ?

[brockley]

It shouldn't be BCCI vs the rest,the new model gives BCCI heaps,and they still not happy,
Means BCCI can divide,leave,lead to the scrapping of 9/3.
A compromise has been offered but the BCCI playing hardball.

This is really dangerous stuff,the BCCI wants to keep the original Srinivassan money quota.
and i feel the BCCI will appease Zimbabwe and other boards,and 9/3 won't go ahead.
This 9/3 with further expansion is ultimate to the games growth.

Cricket will be bigger for it,Ireland won't change the landscape but Afghanistan with all their fans,and maybe Nepal in the future will make that pie grow,
But the 55/60 million for Afghanistan and Ireland,is a kick in the guts from ICC and BCCI.

[horizon]

Originally Posted by brockley
It shouldn't be BCCI vs the rest,the new model gives BCCI heaps,and they still not happy,
Means BCCI can divide,leave,lead to the scrapping of 9/3.
A compromise has been offered but the BCCI playing hardball.

This is really dangerous stuff,the BCCI wants to keep the original Srinivassan money quota.
and i feel the BCCI will appease Zimbabwe and other boards,and 9/3 won't go ahead.
This 9/3 with further expansion is ultimate to the games growth.

Cricket will be bigger for it,Ireland won't change the landscape but Afghanistan with all their fans,and maybe Nepal in the future will make that pie grow,
But the 55/60 million for Afghanistan and Ireland,is a kick in the guts from ICC and BCCI.

9+3 model and their Test status has already been passed. Only thing that has not is the exact share of the revenue. Only way this can be rolled back is in case India walks out of ICC.

Read directly from ICC website.
https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/323637

[horizon]

BCCI strikes back - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...w/57625332.cms

The BCCI has once again trained its guns on the International Cricket Council (ICC), dismissing the latter's effort to call for a working group meeting to discuss the proposed World Test Championship structure.

[brockley]

You said India wouldn't do this.
This will destroy Ireland cricket in particular,Afghanistan will be stymied.

[brockley]

I don't know why their isn't more chatter,this is the major Headline for tomorrow.
ts the begnning of the end of Irish and Afghanistan cricket,Kenya I shout.

[Tigers_eye]

So we don't have a 9-3 plan? Or we don't have the financial plan?