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October 30, 2016, 02:00 PM
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~England's Tour of India- NOV 9th, 2016 to FEB 1st, 2017=> 5 Tests, 3 ODIs, 3 T20Is ~
- Wed Nov 9 - Sun Nov 13 09:30 local (04:00 GMT | 23:00 EST -1d | 22:00 CST -1d | 20:00 PST -1d)
1st Test - India v England
Saurashtra Cricket Association Stadium, Rajkot
Thu Nov 17 - Mon Nov 21 09:30 local (04:00 GMT | 23:00 EST -1d | 22:00 CST -1d | 20:00 PST -1d)
2nd Test - India v England
Dr. Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy ACA-VDCA Cricket Stadium, Visakhapatnam
Sat Nov 26 - Wed Nov 30 09:30 local (04:00 GMT | 23:00 EST -1d | 22:00 CST -1d | 20:00 PST -1d)
3rd Test - India v England
Punjab Cricket Association IS Bindra Stadium, Mohali, Chandigarh
Thu Dec 8 - Mon Dec 12 09:30 local (04:00 GMT | 23:00 EST -1d | 22:00 CST -1d | 20:00 PST -1d)
4th Test - India v England
Wankhede Stadium, Mumbai
Fri Dec 16 - Tue Dec 20 09:30 local (04:00 GMT | 23:00 EST -1d | 22:00 CST -1d | 20:00 PST -1d)
5th Test - India v England
MA Chidambaram Stadium, Chepauk, Chennai
Sun Jan 15, 2017 (50 ovs) 14:30 local (09:00 GMT | 04:00 EST | 03:00 CST | 01:00 PST)
[B]1st ODI - India v England[B]
Maharashtra Cricket Association Stadium, Pune
D/N Thu Jan 19, 2017 (50 ovs) 14:30 local (09:00 GMT | 04:00 EST | 03:00 CST | 01:00 PST)
2nd ODI - India v England
Barabati Stadium, Cuttack
D/N Sun Jan 22, 2017 (50 ovs) 14:30 local (09:00 GMT | 04:00 EST | 03:00 CST | 01:00 PST)
3rd ODI - India v England
Eden Gardens, Kolkata
D/N Thu Jan 26, 2017 (20 ovs) 19:00 local (13:30 GMT | 08:30 EST | 07:30 CST | 05:30 PST)
1st T20I - India v England
Green Park, Kanpur
Sun Jan 29, 2017 (20 ovs) 19:00 local (13:30 GMT | 08:30 EST | 07:30 CST | 05:30 PST)
2nd T20I - India v England
Vidarbha Cricket Association Stadium, Jamtha, Nagpur
Wed Feb 1, 2017 (20 ovs) 19:00 local (13:30 GMT | 08:30 EST | 07:30 CST | 05:30 PST)
3rd T20I - India v England
M Chinnaswamy Stadium, Bangalore
This is gonna be a long series.
Squads coming up soon...
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October 30, 2016, 04:33 PM
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India should play with 8 batsmen and (Ashwin, Jaddu, Mishra) in the test series.
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October 30, 2016, 06:22 PM
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That's a loooong series. Wishing England all the best!
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October 30, 2016, 07:06 PM
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From The Beatles to Spice Girls to England cricket, I'm all about English for next ...4 months!? (Jesus this is a long tour. (yes I can see the gap! still lonnng!)
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October 30, 2016, 07:26 PM
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Anderson already out of the 1st test.
After that tour, I think Bangladesh will be in India to play that Scintilla of a solitary test match.
Records will be broken in one way or the other.
Injuries will mount.
At least one English player will return home.
And the rest is to be determined....
Keep you posted
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October 30, 2016, 07:27 PM
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They should have arranged a triseries..with BD as well..now that's a crowd puller
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October 30, 2016, 07:43 PM
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England need to sort out their top order batting immediately, otherwise it will be straight 5-0 .
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October 30, 2016, 08:23 PM
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If injury free series, Eng may win one ODI and a T20 that is about it.
This English squad is very young and Finn will be carted if he plays.
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October 30, 2016, 08:39 PM
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Ashwin has taken a rest during the NZ odi's. I think he has watched the bd vs eng games, specially the bowling of mehedi.
If not, he already has the video of how mehedi troubled the English also how Taijul and shakib supported him.
I think ashwin now knows how to doom the English batting and England has a hectic job playing out ashwin.
Who is India second spinner in tests...... Mishra or chawla?? Or axar patel? Or anybody else? Surely jadeja is there as the third one?
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October 30, 2016, 08:41 PM
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Well just saw the score cards of India Nz tests and India now actually play..... 6 batsman, specialist wk wriddhiman Saha, jadeja as 4th bowler, ashwin as main spinner ans two seamers yadav and shami
The bowling quadret and wicket keeper has been consistent.... The batters were rotated for some injuries.
They have a very settled side in tests.
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October 30, 2016, 09:05 PM
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Lokesh Rahul will make a return...and they might rotate Shikar and Gautam as the opening batsmen.
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October 30, 2016, 09:08 PM
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This will be the series that ends Dharmasena's career, he's umpiring for the first two tests on what would be turners that would put ours to shame
BCCI isn't going to put up with his incompetent shenanigans
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October 30, 2016, 10:55 PM
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I will Mostly be rooting for England .
England missed a trick by not including Haseeb Hameed. Gary Ballance is horribly out of form... My XI for England next test against India:
1) Alistair Cook(c)
2) Ben Duckett
3) Joe Root
4) Haseeb Hameed
5) Ben Stokes
6) Jos Buttler
7) Johnny Bairstow(wk)
8) Moeen Ali
9) Chris Woakes
10) Stuart Broad
11) Adil Rashid
If they want to use an extra spinner, then draft in Gareth Batty for Jos Buttler and shift the order up by 1 from the previous lineup and drop Batty to #11.
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October 30, 2016, 11:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NoName
This will be the series that ends Dharmasena's career, he's umpiring for the first two tests on what would be turners that would put ours to shame
BCCI isn't going to put up with his incompetent shenanigans
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Dharmasena is quite consistent as an umpire though. When he gives it out it turns out to be not out and when he says not out it is most definitely out. As this rate DRS might just become known as Dharmasena Review System
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October 30, 2016, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rifat
I will Mostly be rooting for England .
England missed a trick by not including Haseeb Hameed. Gary Ballance is horribly out of form... My XI for England next test against India:
1) Alistair Cook(c)
2) Ben Duckett
3) Joe Root
4) Haseeb Hameed
5) Ben Stokes
6) Jos Buttler
7) Johnny Bairstow(wk)
8) Moeen Ali
9) Chris Woakes
10) Stuart Broad
11) Adil Rashid
If they want to use an extra spinner, then draft in Gareth Batty for Jos Buttler and shift the order up by 1 from the previous lineup and drop Batty to #11.
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What about Alex Hales and eion Morgan?
Will they being the squad?
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October 30, 2016, 11:41 PM
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Ashwin will eat them alive
No hope for England...
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October 30, 2016, 11:47 PM
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Gareth Batty will have to play every match.
Rashid is not that skilled as a leggie to be effective in India...that's why they are taking Saqlain with them, to help with the offie, who is Batty.
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October 31, 2016, 12:32 AM
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The spinners England have showcased in our series gives an indication at how dire England will fare in India. At least back in 2012 they had Monty and Swann to match Ashwin and co, now they don't have anyone near their calibre.
The only thing that is going for them is how India made Moeenalitharan during their tour to England last year, so that will be playing on their minds. Batting wise Cook at least has Root whereas last time he had KP, but the juries still out on how Root will fare
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October 31, 2016, 12:44 AM
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I wouldn't write off this England side just yet. These guys are a different breed to the England sides of the past. The way Ducket played shows that they are thinking players and know how to improve and adapt. Because of us, and the pressure we put them under, India will face a stronger English batting unit... i think. I am also really impressed with Stokes. What a great find he is for england. A genuine fighter. They need to drop Balance and pick somebody better in the middle order.
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October 31, 2016, 09:38 AM
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October 31, 2016, 09:42 AM
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What about Alex Hales and eion Morgan?
Will they being the squad?
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nope, Morgan last played Test in 2012. Alex Hales record against Pakistan last summer is ok not great(He ma be given another chance) but since he did not tour Bangladesh, Indian conditions may be very foreign to him.
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I was surprised that England didn't went with Hameed in the 2nd Test against bangladesh.
He would have been exposed to the track and conditions of the subcontinent. He made a fifty in the practice match...now he might make his debut in the 1st test aginst India..while Ballance do the 12th-man duties
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November 1, 2016, 01:04 PM
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England's Test SQUAD:
Alastair Cook (c), Moeen Ali, Zafar Ansari, Jonny Bairstow (wk), Jake Ball, Gary Ballance, Gareth Batty, Stuart Broad, Jos Buttler (wk), Ben Duckett, Steven Finn, Haseeb Hameed, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Ben Stokes, Chris Woakes.
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"I think the problem that Alastair will have is getting the ball out of his hands. He wants to bowl, he wants to compete - speak to Paul Collingwood, he bowls marathon spells for Durham, 16-17 overs - and he's got that ability to produce magic with the old ball.
England must protect Stokes from burn-out, says Michael Vaughan
"And even when he's bowled badly, and sprayed the ball all over the place, he's always created opportunities. Beefy Botham took a lot of wickets with long-hops and Ben Stokes is very similar, because he's got that physical presence out in the middle. He does intimidate opposition batsmen, so he will create opportunities."
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-...y/1064308.html
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November 1, 2016, 01:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NoName
The spinners England have showcased in our series gives an indication at how dire England will fare in India. At least back in 2012 they had Monty and Swann to match Ashwin and co, now they don't have anyone near their calibre.
The only thing that is going for them is how India made Moeenalitharan during their tour to England last year, so that will be playing on their minds. Batting wise Cook at least has Root whereas last time he had KP, but the juries still out on how Root will fare
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Monty and Swann both of them were far better than the best they have today. I don't really think Moeen is that class, but we'll see that.
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November 1, 2016, 01:11 PM
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Moeen is a good ultility/necessity player. He is no world class spinner as well as no clown with the ball in hand...He gets the job done. That's what is important from the English's standpoint.
They will have to play the SLA Ansari in at least 3 of the 5 tests...Perhaps a good battle against India's right hand batsmen./.
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