Match Thread | NZ V ENG | Final | WC 2019 - Page 8

zman · #**176** July 14, 2019, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Miraz
But that’s not the case here as Shakib isn’t head and shoulders above Ken. He had a better World Cup but Ken a more influential one.

Actually I was mistaken. India made it to the finals that year

godzilla · #**177** July 14, 2019, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by simon
BD hoile etokhon e amar janaza hoya jaito

Mushy would have broken the stumps without the ball ... Lol

One World · #**178** July 14, 2019, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by zman
when did this happen?

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/...illiamson-walk

CricLoverUK · #**179** July 14, 2019, 02:23 PM

It was unfortunate that the Tennis Wimbledon final was on the day as CWC final. British public love Wimbledon Tennis. Even though no British player in the final it still gets huge tv ratings.

Night_wolf · #**180** July 14, 2019, 02:26 PM

you know what the biggest irony is? still no English captain has lift the world cup

Rifat_02 · #**181** July 14, 2019, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Night_wolf
you know what the biggest irony is? still no English captain has lift the world cup

Who cares ? 100 years from now it will still be written that England has won a Cricket World Cup in 2019 regardless of where the captain was from.

CricLoverUK · #**182** July 14, 2019, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Night_wolf
you know what the biggest irony is? still no English captain has lift the world cup

What matters is England won the world cup, not who lifted it

tiger1000 · #**183** July 14, 2019, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Miraz
Ken Williamson is deservedly man of the tournament.

You have to think in this way -

Shakib played superbly and kept Bangladesh in the tournament but we couldn’t even make it to the semifinal.

Ken single handedly took his team to the final with both his batting and captaincy.

No he didn't take them single handedly, they had The most complete bowling attack

World class swing bowler
World class line and length bowler
World class express bowler
World class spinner in these conditions

All he has to do is find 10 overs

Starc was better
Rohit was better
Stokes was better

Forget Shakib, Williamson wasn't top 4

simon · #**184** July 14, 2019, 04:11 PM

Depends on what is the criteria to be MOT, if it's about who carried his team further or who was more impact full then it's rightfully Williamson but if it is only based on who scored more runs or took more wickets then it would be Sakib.

One World · #**185** July 14, 2019, 04:36 PM

I had some soft corner for KW before but it was gone after that crook action in SAF-NZ match. He falls into the same level to those who mankad or Latif type feigns catches or the ball tamperers like Warner/Smith. Considering that unfairness only, ICC should have dropped him from the MOT contention.

Eshen · #**186** July 14, 2019, 04:44 PM

Umpiring mistakes were plenty this WC, sometimes you fell victim to it, sometimes you were the beneficiary. I see nothing wrong Kane not walking.

Shakib fans need to stop being such sore losers.

Eshen · #**187** July 14, 2019, 04:55 PM

Anyway, that boundary rule didn't make sense to me whatsoever. The cup should have been shared.

tiger1000 · #**188** July 14, 2019, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eshen
Anyway, that boundary rule didn't make sense to me whatsoever. The cup should have been shared.

What's this under 10's

One World · #**189** July 14, 2019, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eshen
Umpiring mistakes were plenty this WC, sometimes you fell victim to it, sometimes you were the beneficiary. I see nothing wrong Kane not walking.

Shakib fans need to stop being such sore losers.

I think ICC is the loser, who are encouraging this behavior. If not Shakib there were other impact player like Stokes alone could be a contender who hung on till the end along with earlier performances with bat, ball, field.

Jadukor · #**190** July 14, 2019, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Miraz
Ken Williamson is deservedly man of the tournament.

You have to think in this way -

Shakib played superbly and kept Bangladesh in the tournament but we couldn’t even make it to the semifinal.

Ken single handedly took his team to the final with both his batting and captaincy.

Agreed. He is a fantastic captain and certainly at the level of Martin Crow with the bat.

sameer_st · #**191** July 14, 2019, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by One World
I had some soft corner for KW before but it was gone after that crook action in SAF-NZ match. He falls into the same level to those who mankad or Latif type feigns catches or the ball tamperers like Warner/Smith. Considering that unfairness only, ICC should have dropped him from the MOT contention.

Why? With all the technology available, its the umpire fault as they couldn't spot the nick or rule him out. And you are comparing him to Warner/smith. Ridiculous!

One World · #**192** July 14, 2019, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sameer_st
Why? With all the technology available, its the umpire fault as they couldn't spot the nick or rule him out. And you are comparing him to Warner/smith. Ridiculous!

Everybody can have their opinion. We can agree to disagree. Cricket is a gentleman's game and it is not me, Faff also raised the question and there were many discussions on this from cricket experts. To my book he is a pretentious guy who is not honest to the core, so in future we may see him do the same thing and as spectators start taking it as a norm which should not be. May be he was doing it in the past and getting by in absence of tv-umpire and review systems who knows. ICC could make it an example by taking stern measure rather they were lenient.

icricket · #**193** July 14, 2019, 08:48 PM

What a game! Congratulations to the ENG team and commiseration to the NZ team. The best cricket Final I have ever seen and definitely the best match in this World Cup. I supported both teams, but was rooting for ENG a little bit more because I wanted ENG to win it for the home crowd at the legendary Lord's ground.

zman · #**194** July 14, 2019, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Night_wolf
NZ did not stole it..we did it to ourselves, no way a guy would have won MOT when his team was number 8 in a 10 team tournament

Every time I remember that I get more pissed at Mash and Co. How they wasted the greatest overall performance by an individual in a world cup! Shak won 3 MOM awards for almost singlehandedly winning those 3 games for us - that's as close to singlehanded win as it gets in the game of cricket. Had we won against NZ he would've been the clear favorite to win MOM. Not to mention if we had won any other matches chances are he would've been the automatic choice for MOM. How much more can a human being do? I wonder what's the highest number for MOM awards won by an individual in the group stages of a world cup!