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Old March 17, 2016, 03:56 AM
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I hope most the orthodox fans will wisern up. T20 you need hacks yes hacks techniques doesnt matter you need power hitters even if they are wild but can power it on FLAT WICKETS as most wickets in T20's will be FLAT everywhere.

These players are needed back in the T20 fold:
Shamsur Rahman
Alok Kapali
Nafeez
Ziaur
Nazmul Milon (needs a International T20 chances to start with)


Simple have to work with these bunch. They all have potential to be good t20i players, all them have big hits, power batting ability. Kapali on flat wickets can be what he was at ICL! Even Ziaur will be a beast on flat wickets, Nafeez showed what he can do on flat wickets many a times, Shamsur score a brilliant 96 on flat wicket (3rd ODI VS NZ 2013). All these players play well on flat wickets, they know the strength how to bat on flat wickets better than quite few we have in the side.
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Old March 17, 2016, 04:01 AM
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I hope most the orthodox fans will wisern up. T20 you need hacks yes hacks techniques doesnt matter you need power hitters even if they are wild but can power it on FLAT WICKETS as most wickets in T20's will be FLAT everywhere.

These players are needed back in the T20 fold:
Shamsur Rahman
Alok Kapali
Nafeez
Ziaur
Nazmul Milon (needs a International T20 chances to start with)


Simple have to work with these bunch. They all have potential to be good t20i players, all them have big hits, power batting ability. Kapali on flat wickets can be what he was at ICL! Even Ziaur will be a beast on flat wickets, Nafeez showed what he can do on flat wickets many a times, Shamsur score a brilliant 96 on flat wicket (3rd ODI VS NZ 2013). All these players play well on flat wickets, they know the strength how to bat on flat wickets better than quite few we have in the side.
In t20 u don't need hacks.look at ab,Warner,roussow,de kock,Ro,kohli,hales,finch

They ain't hacks but are the best t20 batsmen

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Old March 17, 2016, 04:06 AM
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Mushy currently is out of form. Before he went out of form he was averaging 50+ in ODIs and was decent in T20s.

Nafees, Shamsur, Junayed, and Jahurul were never good (Nafees served his purpose against the Zimbabwes a long time ago.).

And even when Mushy is out of form, the difference in technique between him and those batsmen is apparent.
Technique isn't what we are after at 6 with 5 overs left. IDC what he averages in 50 overs the fact is he sucks in T20s and your reasons trying to justify his inclusion are lackluster to say the least.

I fail to understand what your "decent" is

46 innings
50 hs
17.81 avg
111.34 sr @6
1 50

Very decent am I right?
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Old March 17, 2016, 04:28 AM
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What about Jahural islam. I think he had an ok BPL if I remember correctly?
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Old March 17, 2016, 04:34 AM
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In t20 u don't need hacks.look at ab,Warner,roussow,de kock,Ro,kohli,hales,finch

They ain't hacks but are the best t20 batsmen
What I mean by Hacks. Is players who can TONK it, power hitters, big hitters. Finch, Warner, Kock, Hales all play to a t20 style batting with a t20 style solid base.
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Old March 17, 2016, 06:05 AM
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It might not be a bad idea for BCB to identify a few players whose skills might be useful for T20. Involve them in HP. Dont be discouraged by age. Work on their technique, fitness etc.

For instance Junaid Siddiqui is probably one of the biggest hitters i ve seen in Bangladesh. The bloke has big shoulders and strong upper body. On top of that he is an exceptionally gifted timer. But he is inconsitent, has a lot of technical issues. But its a 20 over game. A good coach would look to negate the impact of his weaknesses, and work on his strength which is to hit big.

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Old March 17, 2016, 06:11 AM
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I think Nafees and Kapali are better T20 batsmen than Soumya and Mushfiq
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Old March 17, 2016, 08:21 AM
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I think Nafees and Kapali are better T20 batsmen than Soumya and Mushfiq
Im kinda agree with this. Sarkar might improve with time.
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Old March 17, 2016, 08:25 AM
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Big Z is a Big miss in this pitch. He could do a mayhem! !
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Old March 17, 2016, 11:19 AM
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In t20 u don't need hacks.look at ab,Warner,roussow,de kock,Ro,kohli,hales,finch

They ain't hacks but are the best t20 batsmen

T
Yep, T20 is about stroke-playing, not hacking at the ball. Some fans have the wrong impression of the format.

We're lacking a power-hitter in one position (#7), not a blind slogger with zero technique. We already have one of the latter in the squad in Mithun right now.

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Technique isn't what we are after at 6 with 5 overs left. IDC what he averages in 50 overs the fact is he sucks in T20s and your reasons trying to justify his inclusion are lackluster to say the least.

I fail to understand what your "decent" is

46 innings
50 hs
17.81 avg
111.34 sr @6
1 50

Very decent am I right?
If you're going to look at Mushy's whole career average, then he isn't a decent ODI batsman either. That's because he only reached his peak ability a few years ago. And his club Twenty20 avg is 26 with a SR of 122 which isn't bad.

You might as well drop Tamim too then because not too long ago his T20I avg was ~20, and he has an avg SR of 115.

Mushy is our best WK-batsman in both LOI formats. Who do you want to start ahead of him, Nurul or Liton?
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Old March 17, 2016, 11:23 AM
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Big Z is a Big miss in this pitch. He could do a mayhem! !
Who's Big Z, Banglar Hulk?
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Old March 17, 2016, 12:22 PM
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Truly speaking, I miss Ashraful...atleast in T20Is. Ash seems to me is tailor-made for T20s. You don't need too much intelligence in T20, Self-belief and the ability to back it up. If you ask me for three players outside national T20 side who needs to be in, they are in order:

Md. Ashraful
Alok Kapali
Shahriar Nafees

I don't want any new face in the squad, all 3 has experience, they know all-about International level cricket.
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Old March 17, 2016, 12:28 PM
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Who's Big Z, Banglar Hulk?
Zunaed Siddique
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Old March 17, 2016, 12:34 PM
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Zunaed Siddique
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Old March 17, 2016, 12:42 PM
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বর্তমান স্কুয়াডের বাইরে এমন কোন খেলোয়ার নেই, যে নাকি নিশ্চিতভাবে আমাদের পাছা রক্ষা করতে পারে!
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Old March 17, 2016, 04:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure all of us are talking about Zunaid Siddiqi when we say Big Z bro
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Old March 17, 2016, 06:41 PM
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I'm pretty sure all of us are talking about Zunaid Siddiqi when we say Big Z bro
There you go.
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Old March 17, 2016, 06:42 PM
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you have to be very innovative in T20, in many matches opposition bowlers will ball with lots of variations and tight line and length. so you cant play basic cricket and you have to be very innovative to score runs. just look at Shahzad from Afghanistan, he got no techniques but he is very innovative. None of our batsman are innovative that way.
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Old March 18, 2016, 02:19 AM
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I remember I was in the ground that day when Big Z made this 41 of 22 balls and had the Indians worried for a while.

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Old March 18, 2016, 08:47 AM
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He (JS) and Kapali should be training at HP. There is nothing called too old for this format. Look how well Dilshan played yesterday and who would know he is 39.

With the training, improvement in fitness if they can deliver in BPL etc give them a chance instead of picking random guys like Mohammad Mithun.

Btw Kapali scored heavily in BCL. Feel we shouldnt still give up on him.
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Old March 18, 2016, 09:47 AM
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Old March 18, 2016, 09:50 AM
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Old March 18, 2016, 03:29 PM
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First thing first. Except for few players, the rest should be concentrating only either one or two format; not all format. You add more players and assign the to just one ( or two) format and give them more time to prove them one way or another.

We are screwing up our players by letting them play all three formats.

For example, for T20, we completely need different kind of batsman.

For some, Rahim is a great batsman and defend him in T20, But to me, even in his best days, he was below par T20 batsman. He doesn't have the skillset to be batting at #5 or #6. You con not be successful in T20 with this type of batsman.
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Old March 18, 2016, 04:17 PM
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He (JS) and Kapali should be training at HP. There is nothing called too old for this format. Look how well Dilshan played yesterday and who would know he is 39.

With the training, improvement in fitness if they can deliver in BPL etc give them a chance instead of picking random guys like Mohammad Mithun.

Btw Kapali scored heavily in BCL. Feel we shouldnt still give up on him.
i totally agree with you.

kapali is custom made player for T20, his bowling will be useful too. In BD, we dont know which player is right for which format. otherwise, why javed omar, mehrab jr, mominul, liton das, mushfiq rahim are playing T20

if you consider age, just look at these player and their performance for national team

misbah
grant elliott
adam vogues

for some country player get their debut at 31. why we discard our player so early?

mithun, nurul, mushfiq, soumya are not helping our national team
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