Another bomb in Gazipur- 27 injured

[Banglatiger84]

Didnt really want to start another topic,

What is the government actually doing about this BS?



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4487426.stm

Fresh bombing in Bangladesh town

One person has been killed and at least 27 injured after a bomb explosion in a town in Bangladesh which had been hit by a suicide attack on Tuesday.
The powerful bomb went off outside the main administrative office in Gazipur, police say.

The condition of some of the wounded is serious and they have been moved to the capital Dhaka.

Seven people died in Tuesday's attack. Police have blamed Islamic militants for both blasts.

The latest attack took place during a nationwide strike called in protest against the earlier bombing.

Police say a young man selling tea had hid the bomb in a flask - while being frisked by security men he allegedly threw the bomb at the policemen.

"At least 20 people including four police officers were wounded, some seriously, when the man set off the bomb as we were checking people in front of the gate of the district administrator's office," a local police official, Kamrul Islam, is quoted as saying by AFP news agency.

Three journalists and some lawyers have also been wounded in the attack.

Strike

Thursday's strike has been called by the Supreme Court Bar Association after bombings at two court complexes on Tuesday.

Vehicles have stayed off the streets and shops and business have remained closed. The lawyers are demanding that their security arrangements be improved.

A powerful bomb exploded inside a library near a courthouse in Gazipur, leaving seven people dead and about 50 others injured - police have described it as the country's first ever suicide bombing.

In a second attack on Tuesday, three people, including an alleged bomber, were killed when a series of bombs went off outside a courthouse in the port city of Chittagong.

The government has blamed a banned militant group, Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen, for the explosions and a series of earlier attacks.

The police have now launched a manhunt for more potential bombers.

They say Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen may have set up a suicide squad of some 2,000 bombers to achieve its aim of establishing Islamic law in Bangladesh.

[PoorFan]

Will not stop anytime soon. Innocent people have to pay all the pain because of our foolish politicians.

[ekatturerBangalee]

Originally posted by Banglatiger84
Didnt really want to start another topic,

What is the government actually doing about this BS?

Nothing. Just blame the opposition party.

[Ahmed_B]

Originally posted by Banglatiger84
What is the government actually doing about this BS?

The govt. has fallen into its own trap. Forming a coalition with Jamaat was their biggest mistake and it's only the beginning of repays!

[Rubu]

I'm trying to be eternal optimistic here.

bengali people are laid back easy going people and will not take the hard way until they really have to. but when they do, they can do an awesome job (refere to '71).

so, i'm hoping that these series of bombing will create some sort of moral rise in people and will start a larget scale protest against everything evil.

people have their back on the wall now. either they have to start firm and face the evil and get rid of it or get destroyed. there is no middle.

i'm hoping for the best.

[Sauron]

Originally posted by Ahmed_B
The govt. has fallen into its own trap. Forming a coalition with Jamaat was their biggest mistake and it's only the beginning of repays!

That is a very good point.

And not Just BNP, AL also formed alliances when they needed.

Both parties were (still are) too afraid to speak up against fundamentalists for the fear of offending general muslim populace.

Amoral and spine-less politics is definitely a big contributor towards rise of these murderers.

[ekatturerBangalee]

Good News...........................will see how it goes!


Dhaka to Launch Clean Militants Operation

Combing operation named "Clean Militants Operation" by the members of Army, paramilitary the Bangladesh Rifles, police and Ansar (militia) is likely to be launched next week simultaneously across Bangladesh to nab and root out the members of different banned Islamist militant organizations.

The operation will be continued until the nabbing of Shaikh Abdur Rahman, chief of the banned Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) and Siddiqur Rahman alias Bangla Bhai, operating commander of the outlaw Jagrata Muslim Janata Bangladesh, who confirmed as the masterminds of countrywide bombing on Aug. 17 which left three people killed and over 150 others injured, according to the local media Thursday.

The banned Islamist outfits have planned a number of bomb attacks across the country since the Aug. 17 bomb blasts in which 17 people including judges, lawyers and police were killed.

Twelve people including two lawyers and two police, were killed and over 60 others injured Tuesday morning in two suicide bomb attacks by JMB, on the southern Chittagong and northern Gazipur court premises.

In the latest wave of terror strikes on the judiciary on Tuesday, two JMB members blew themselves up. The JMB has targeted the judiciary as a part of its professed struggle to turn the state under the rule of Islamic law.

During the forthcoming "Clean Militants Operation", the members of the joint force would use modern intelligence equipment and arms and will raid suspected residences of the militants across the country including the capital city. The border areas will be sealed during the operation. The members of the joint force would be given permission to shoot at sight if required.

Before the operation, the joint force will collect the lists of militants including the members of the suicide squad of JMB, which was prepared by the different intelligence branches.

Prime Minister Khaleda Zia Wednesday called on all political parties and professional groups to sit together and find out ways to stop bomb terrorism.

Terming the current spate of bomb blasts and terrorism a national problem, the prime minister said that tougher laws would be enacted to punish the terrorists. She also urged the people to help catch those perpetrators.

The law enforcers have been asked to step up strict vigilance across the country as the intelligence agencies have information the hundreds of members of the suicide squad of JMB are assembling in Dhaka and its adjoining districts to carry out further bomb attacks.

Security measures have already been beefed up at the key-point installations, including the court premises across the country to avoid any untoward situation.

Meanwhile, law enforcers were on a hunt for "suicide bombers" of JMB after Tuesday's bomb attacks. They picked up about 50 suspects from across the country Tuesday night and Wednesday.

(Xinhua News Agency December 1, 2005)

Edited on, December 1, 2005, 6:50 PM GMT, by ekatturerBangalee.

[Beamer]

Yes..good news indeed, but remains to be seen how effective it will turn out to be. Its time for the govt. to show force with conviction. These mongrels only understand the language of force, though in a cowardly way by lurking in the shadow, and as such, they must be met with overwhelming force. Shoot to kill- should be the policy. They have declared war on the state and we must return the favor.

It would be great if we can capture this bangla bhai and the other mollah- shaikh rahman by "bijoy dibosh" and hang them in front of Manik Mia Ave for all to see..

Sorry guys for such raw emotion. But last few days have been very difficult for all of us. You know who I worry about the most? The appeasers and the sympathizers among the general public and certainly some in this forum for these cruel ideologues. Its easy to exterminate the footsoldiers with a bullet, but these so called educated people with extreme mindset worry me the most. They are silent for the moment in every starta of the administration, business, armed forces, publications, forums etc waiting for their time to come out and lend support to their causes when the time is right for them. No tolerance should be given to such individuals since they take advantage of our system of tolerance. We have forgotten and forgiven them after their role in the independence war. They, in turn, won't give us the same favor when they are capable of running the show. I gurantee that much. Watch out for those snakes. Call them out in public and villify them publicly.

[Rubu]

to make if effective, they need a new group of RAB. not those that are in the field already. take all of them in, and bring in another fresh battelion. police is unable and unwilling to do anything. gov is able to, BIG question is are they willing to?

[Dawah]

Very soon people will agree with me that BD is best ruled by Marshal Law. All and every political parties in BD are corrupt. I bet when AL will come in power they will burn down all the Masjid and Islamic-institutes in the name of "JMB". JMB is now BD version of Al Queda.

Go Army

[Dawah]

By the way, those who are well versed in politics, could you educate me why Mashal Law should not be implemented in BD?

Edited on, December 1, 2005, 10:18 PM GMT, by Dawah.

[Banglatiger84]

Originally posted by Beamer
Shoot to kill- should be the policy. They have declared war on the state and we must return the favor.

The appeasers and the sympathizers among the general public and certainly some in this forum for these cruel ideologues. .

There is nothing wrong with shoot to kill if a criminal poses immediate danger in any form whatsoever to innocent people.

However,what are the chances that innocent people will start getting killed just to show "action taken by govt"?

Will we all be cheering on then?

Emotions wont get us anywhere. The govt should try to arrest and extract information from any would-be bombers it gets.

In the long run they should also have agents infiltrate such organisations. The homogenity of Bangladesh means that infiltration shouldnt be much of a problem

Another important factor, we all know how some Bangladeshis hate each other to death just because they covet his wealth or land. What are the chances that people will turn in or report on their neighbour "criminals" just so that they can take over their land?

[Banglatiger84]

Originally posted by Dawah
Very soon people will agree with me that BD is best ruled by Marshal Law. All and every political parties in BD are corrupt. I bet when AL will come in power they will burn down all the Masjid and Islamic-institutes in the name of "JMB". JMB is now BD version of Al Queda.

Go Army

That is "collective punishment". It already happened in Turkey, Uzbekistan, Tunisia, Egypt....


It goes like this, many "educated" people, including some in the power strata, despise stuff like Hijab, islamic schools, people having beards etc etc.

Now when groups likeJMB emerge they recognise it as a golden opportuinty, so their suggested remedy becomes,

1) Attack JMB
2) Arrest their followers,

However, they will suddenly add something like "close islamic institutes", or "stop following 7th century laws" to their list of solutions.

Their main goal is the latter part, that is remove all signs of islamic identity.
The JMB just acts as a catalyst.

[PoorFan]

Originally posted by Banglatiger84

That is "collective punishment". It already happened in Turkey, Uzbekistan, Tunisia, Egypt....


It goes like this, many "educated" people, including some in the power strata, despise stuff like Hijab, islamic schools, people having beards etc etc.

Now when groups likeJMB emerge they recognise it as a golden opportuinty, so their suggested remedy becomes,

1) Attack JMB
2) Arrest their followers,

However, they will suddenly add something like "close islamic institutes", or "stop following 7th century laws" to their list of solutions.

Their main goal is the latter part, that is remove all signs of islamic identity.
The JMB just acts as a catalyst.

So how would you react if government has to shut down some Mosque and Islamic institute after being found suspicious? How would you react if government makes new law and try to monitor the activity of those Mosque and Islamic institutes and their income? It cant be happened by any means right? You need 100% proof which must have to recognized by you! Why go for close down since only few of them proven involved INDIVIDUALLY anyway! ....

I bet some people will be shouting ...
"They will burn down all the Masjid and Islamic institutes in the name of "JMB". JMB is now BD version of Al Queda."
"Their main goal is the latter part, that is remove all signs of islamic identity."

[Spitfire_x86]

Originally posted by Dawah
Very soon people will agree with me that BD is best ruled by Marshal Law. All and every political parties in BD are corrupt. I bet when AL will come in power they will burn down all the Masjid and Islamic-institutes in the name of "JMB". JMB is now BD version of Al Queda.

Go Army

Dishonesty to fight dishonesty? Great solution!!

How many mosques AL burned down when they were in power? Do you sound any different than BNP/Jamat liers?

I don't have any sympathy for AL either. These things started when they were in power. But they didn't do anything in fear of losing votes. In terms of general honesty, they're as bad as other parties.

[Spitfire_x86]

There are two kind of followers in every religion.

1. People who follow religion for life
2. People who live for religion

A part of the 2nd group can be dangerous, and they are responsible for all of these religion related terrorism.

[Banglatiger84]

Originally posted by PoorFan
So how would you react if government has to shut down some Mosque and Islamic institute after being found suspicious?

How would you react if government makes new law and try to monitor the activity of those Mosque and Islamic institutes and their income?

Shutting down a mosque? What will that achieve?

If a Masjid is used for subversive acts, what should be done is action against all involved in it. "Shutting down" a Masjid wont sole anything.

I am all in favor of "monitoring", i.e. govt agensts etc should monitor Khutbas for hate filled sermons, it happens here in the UAE, and it has proven effective.

Monitoring income is fine as long as govt doesnt confiscate funds just so that their ministers can suck from those funds.

[Banglatiger84]

Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
There are two kind of followers in every religion.

1. People who follow religion for life
2. People who live for religion

A part of the 2nd group can be dangerous, and they are responsible for all of these religion related terrorism.

Similarly a part of the 1st group can be dangerous as well.

Were people like Joynal Hazari, Pichchi Hannan, and Kala Faruk part of the 2nd group?

Bangladesh has faced criminals since 1971, we have had Rajakars, Rokkhhi Bahini, political criminals, and now JMB terorists.

All are the same. Just because these current terorists try to use Islam doesnt make them worse than the others.

RAB proved pretty effective against many serial murderers and if used properly, they can be useful against these JMB people as well.

[thebest]

I think it is AL's fault that they did not sought justice after Udichi Act. Just giving lip service. So this JMB spread out all over the country. But equally BNP led govt is guilty. They just acted like crow thinking as I m not seeing no body is seeing. The story goes on.

Originally posted by Dawah
.....All and every political parties in BD are corrupt. I bet when AL will come in power they will burn down all the Masjid and Islamic-institutes in the name of "JMB". JMB is now BD version of Al Queda.

But can you tell me how many Masjid AL burned down? I m not an AL fan.

[PoorFan]

Originally posted by Banglatiger84
Shutting down a mosque? What will that achieve?
If a Masjid is used for subversive acts, what should be done is action against all involved in it. "Shutting down" a Masjid wont sole anything.

What will that achieve? Punishment!
Why we ask for shut down an under performing organization? Why shut down a mosque will be taboo? Shutting down" a Masjid will do a lot favor in case of those suspected middle east based NGO's.

I am all in favor of "monitoring", i.e. govt agensts etc should monitor Khutbas for hate filled sermons, it happens here in the UAE, and it has proven effective.

Monitoring income is fine as long as govt doesnt confiscate funds just so that their ministers can suck from those funds.

Yes, nice to know that. Besides there seems no rule on creating mosque and madrassa, like certain amount of people must have living around the mosque or madrassa, and should be in certain distance between existing mosque and madrassa. ( May be there is something like that already which I don't know )

There should be rule and monitory system on this regard since the world having problem in recent days.

[Spitfire_x86]

Originally posted by Banglatiger84
Similarly a part of the 1st group can be dangerous as well.

Were people like Joynal Hazari, Pichchi Hannan, and Kala Faruk part of the 2nd group?

I don't deny that there are no other type of murderers. However almost none of these bombers were professional criminal. They aren't doing it for money, they are doing it for passion. This makes them very different from other criminals.

RAB proved pretty effective against many serial murderers and if used properly, they can be useful against these JMB people as well.

FYI, I didn't support RAB crossfires. I definately don't want RAB/Police to target all mosque going/bearded people indiscriminately. I want only the guilty/strong suspects brought to justice. No one should be killed in "crossfire" style. If someone is immediate threat (like carrying a bomb), then he can be shot. But in that case, RAB/Police won't have to take cover behind blatant lies like "crossfire".

[Spitfire_x86]

Originally posted by PoorFan
Why we ask for shut down an under performing organization? Why shut down a mosque will be taboo? Shutting down" a Masjid will do a lot favor in case of those suspected middle east based NGO's.

Mosques are place of prayer, not institution. For "jongi meetings/lectures", only centain individuals are responsible.

However, "kaomi madrasahs" are different thing. And there's no easy solution right now.