Need a medium pace allrounder for national team

[M.H.Rubel]

Originally Posted by Murad
I heard he bowls in 70-75 mph.

Thats a low pace.But he looks effective.Today in NCL he took 5 wickets.Our ex national player S Rasel also bowls in pretty low pace,still he was an effective ODI bowler.

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[M.H.Rubel]

In short formats,I am never ever interested to play with 3 SLA. Unless the game is at Bangladesh or the team is exceptionally weak against SLA,i want to play with 2 SLA. Our team combination suggests that if we can produce a pacer come pinch hitter it will be very handy for our team combination.
Lets see the team combination in ODI:
1.Tamim
2.2nd Opener
3.Anamul/Jahurul
4.Mushy
5.Shakib
6.Riyad (5 overs)
7.Nasir
8. ?????
9.Mash
10.Sunny/Raj
11.2nd Pacer
Bowling:2pacers+2SLA+Riyad-5overs+?????at #8
Now my question is who is your #8? In some situations 3rd pacers is just a good option.3 SLA attack is never a handy option.In that case a pinch hitting pacer/military medium can be a very good option.This is why i am reviving the thread.To me if we can develop such a player it can give a huge variation to our bowling attack.My recommendations:
1.After the advent of Ziaur Rahman,I want to look foroward about this guy.Though he is not a good batsman but it seems he has the ability to finish a game.he has some decent pace so to me if he can improve his bowling a bit he can be a good candidate for #8
2.My second option is Alaudin Babu. I think this guy is heading for this post quickly.
3.Initially my first preference was Farhad Reza.As a bowler this guy is not a bad short format bowler.To compete for this post you need to know pinch hitting.Farhad is not a bad longer version batsman but he is poor in short format as a batsman.So his hopes are fading away.
4.Arafat Salauddin is a very good allrounder in our domestic circuit but i dont know why he is not called any where?
5.Few more names cane be added here:Saikat Ali,Summya,Mukter Ali,Rony talukder,Even if Doller or Robin can improve their batting they can be added in this group.

[M.H.Rubel]

Cricinfo career of some of this guys:
1.ziaur Rahman http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...yer/56167.html
2.Alauddin Babu http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...er/410768.html
3.Farhad Reza http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...yer/55894.html
4.Arafat Salauddin:http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...yer/56274.html
5.Summya Sarkar http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...er/436677.html
6.Saikat Ali:http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...er/314743.html

[Navo]

What about a pinch-hitting leg spinner like Rumman?

[Kohli_Sox]

One thing I think that should happen which might give a lot of versatility that is if and only if Mashrafe works more on his batting. If it was early days for Mash when he first burst out into the scene, I would say to concentrate more and more on his bowling and pace but since these days it looks like he's going to be stable at what he's doing i.e. bowling at 130-132 and concentrate on line & length, so now is the time he can really improve his batting. He is always talented with the bat in hand and his ability to hit comes very naturally, so with more guidance and work on his techniques of hitting and playing, I'm sure he can be a great no 8 pinch hitter (and can move to even no 7 when team needs)

[BANFAN]

ZIA is the answer I guess. I don't need a guy playing good looking shots, I will do with an ugly shot giving result. We need a beast like ZIA and he just might need some polishing to be consistent ..not necessarily beautiful. Current hot favorite Farhad Reza is an useless parasite, as an alrounder.

[Gowza]

what about babu? Navo as far as shabbir goes he's more of a batsman that bowls a bit isn't he? but he can hit big so he'd be good for a lower order spot as long as his bowling is decent enough for a few overs, same goes for shuvagata, naeem used to be good.

for pacer allrounders atm it's babu, zia and i guess farhad. i'd be giving zia and babu more chances than farhad for now.....asif ahmed bowls a bit....i really think babu is the one to watch for this spot, zia for now is the choice thouhg, give him a few more matches,

[BengaliPagol]

i still dont understand what Anamul has done to warrant himself a position in the T20 side.

[M.H.Rubel]

Originally Posted by Navo
What about a pinch-hitting leg spinner like Rumman?

Both Sla and leggi all turn the ball out side.So unless the leggi turn the ball heavily they will not bowl better than our current bunch of S L A so hope for a legi will not be bad but will not be veryhandy.

[max410]

ZIA needs polishing in his bowling and batting also he could easily win the match for us trying to make a hero of himself trying to play big shots only why dont he take singles as well as 2, 3's as well.
If he does not improve he will turn out to be another Ashraful.

[Navo]

Originally Posted by M.H.Rubel
Both Sla and leggi all turn the ball out side.So unless the leggi turn the ball heavily they will not bowl better than our current bunch of S L A so hope for a legi will not be bad but will not be veryhandy.

That's true, a leggie's stock ball also turns away from the right hander. But a decent leggie has more variations than a decent SLA - the googly, flipper, top spinner, arm ball and so on. This is not to mention variations in flight, pace, using the angles, using the width of the crease, etc.

A leggie, if he's good, would be invaluable in the Test team as they provide a genuine wicket-taking option even if they go for a few runs.

[TimAus]

Given the amount of spin bowling all rounders available why not just take an extra specialist paceman? Mash and Sunny could bat at 8 and 9.

[TimAus]

The last thing you want is a bits and pieces player who ends up getting no runs and being belted out of the park. If Sarkar is genuine bowling option and is up to international standard as a batsman alone then this void will be filled naturally. This of all the best all rounders in the game. They are all there for one discipline only, the fact they have the other as well is a bonus. Shakib and Mahmudullah are both in this category (to an extent Mash with his batting), it would be a mistake to force in an all rounder who can't support his spot with either discipline.

[Gowza]

of the BD pacers in the DPL babu and al amin were the best and most impressive, al amin also did well in the NCL, neither did a good job in the BPL.

[BengaliPagol]

Originally Posted by Gowza
of the BD pacers in the DPL babu and al amin were the best and most impressive, al amin also did well in the NCL, neither did a good job in the BPL.

Yeah thats the sad thing.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
Yeah thats the sad thing.

I'm looking forward to your thread with attached poll on the subject of "medium pace all rounders". Then another on "medium fast pace all rounders". Then one on "fast medium pace all rounders", followed by one on "fast pace all rounders" and finally one on "express pace all rounders".

Then you can open at least 10 more on where they should bat. 5 threads covering now and 5 more about 5 years from now.

[playmaker]

To be honest, we desperately need a top quality off-spinning allrounder as much as a Seaming all-rounder atm.

And as for seaming all-rounder, we dont need to think too much abt that. All we need is a pace bowler who can finish his quota bowling with quality.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by playmaker
To be honest, we desperately need a top quality off-spinning allrounder as much as a Seaming all-rounder atm.

And as for seaming all-rounder, we dont need to think too much abt that. All we need is a pace bowler who can finish his quota bowling with quality.

potentially mahmudul hasn....

[BengaliPagol]

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
I'm looking forward to your thread with attached poll on the subject of "medium pace all rounders". Then another on "medium fast pace all rounders". Then one on "fast medium pace all rounders", followed by one on "fast pace all rounders" and finally one on "express pace all rounders".

Then you can open at least 10 more on where they should bat. 5 threads covering now and 5 more about 5 years from now.

What are we doing sitting around? Lets get cracking on all the polls.

[M.H.Rubel]

Originally Posted by TimAus
Given the amount of spin bowling all rounders available why not just take an extra specialist paceman? Mash and Sunny could bat at 8 and 9.

Definitely i am thinking about playing with 3 pacers in short format.But to me seamers like K M Sujon is a very handy option.This type of bowlers bring a huge variation in the pace attack and they can be good finisher aswell.

[crikss]

that leggie Noor hossain's performance is not so good either

[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by playmaker
To be honest, we desperately need a top quality off-spinning allrounder as much as a Seaming all-rounder atm.

And as for seaming all-rounder, we dont need to think too much abt that. All we need is a pace bowler who can finish his quota bowling with quality.

why does it has to be an AR?..i mean i'd take a top class off spinner who cant bat at all over 5 off spinners who can bat..i am tired of bits and pieces players..we are blessed with one of the best ARs in the world..we dont need anymore..what we need now is specialists in different positions

[Yameen]

I think rather than being specific, we just need to highlight and address the deficiencies first i.e. The fast bowling department. I think if we can get a quality pace bowler who can develop his skills with experience, his batting could be worked on and who knows could become that pacer-allrounder but again like a lot of people are saying, not really essential.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Yameen
I think rather than being specific, we just need to highlight and address the deficiencies first i.e. The fast bowling department. I think if we can get a quality pace bowler who can develop his skills with experience, his batting could be worked on and who knows could become that pacer-allrounder but again like a lot of people are saying, not really essential.

yes we don't need a pace allrounder really, we are better off selecting 3 specialist pacers, a specialist spinner then having shakib and a couple of others who can chip in with some spin. we struggle enough to find decent specialist pacers let alone one that is decent and can also bat. in saying that babu seems to be a really good pacer prospect and he can bat a bit. so if we do want to develop one he'd be my guy right now. but we really need to develop our pacers abul, al amin, babu, rabbi, whoever but we need to get them some good coaching. what happened to guys like sajidul, emon ahmed, subashis? all really good prospects and where are they now? they barely play and when they do they don't perform.

it's a crying shame the way shahadat hossain turned out, let's not make a habit of it.

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