Big name players being signed up for BPL 5

[MalikBro]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
Afghanistan cricket board too has cut off relations with PCB.

So PCB right now are contemplating series with SL(currently the weakest of the top teams), UAE(Associate nation who has zero non-expats) and Nepal

Officially Afghan cricket has, but unofficially, their teams will be playing in Pakistani domestic regularly.

Afghan team is practically Peshawar team which the platform from Pakistan made them what they are.

If anything, it might be big loss for Afghan cricket board knowing their lack of proper infrastructure and domestic first class tournaments which they used Pakistan's infrastructures and participated in domestic's first class tournaments and domestic t20 with the big names.

PCB already has lined up Sri Lanka series in UAE in this year. Pakistan and Sri Lanka have been playing back and forth in both UAE and Sri Lanka for the last five years.

[MalikBro]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
Afghanistan cricket board too has cut off relations with PCB.

So PCB right now are contemplating series with SL(currently the weakest of the top teams), UAE(Associate nation who has zero non-expats) and Nepal

Officially Afghan cricket has, but unofficially, their teams will be playing in Pakistani domestic regularly.

Afghan team is practically Peshawar team which the platform from Pakistan made them what they are.

If anything, it might be big loss for Afghan cricket board knowing their lack of proper infrastructure and domestic first class tournaments which they used Pakistan's infrastructures and participated in domestic's first class tournaments and domestic t20 with the big names.

Already hosted Australia and England more than twice, and more on the way before 2020. Hosted Australia, England, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, South Africa, West Indies regularly and that too with the full series. And Bangladesh is yet to be hosted which is not very likely given the sponsor mindset towards minnow teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Hence hosted Zimbabwe in Pakistan since only local sponsor was available for Zimbabwe which made sense to host the team in Pakistan since Zimbabwe team was eager to play in Pakistan anyways.

PCB hosted almost all the teams regularly with the full series pack at UAE, yet remained profitable as ever. Sure, PCB could have made more at home [Pakistan], but PCB cannot be chooser especially with the situation yet doing fine so far in terms of revenue despite the cost for UAE.

PCB already has lined up Sri Lanka series in UAE in this year. Pakistan and Sri Lanka have been playing back and forth in both UAE and Sri Lanka for the last five years.

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by MalikBro
Because BCB is known to be backstabber? BCB didn't even spare BCCI. PCB promoted lots of cricket in Bangladesh in the last few years, and benefited nothing in return apart from some winning titles over Asia Cup. Financially, PCB benefits nothing from maintaining diplomatic tactics with BCB.

What gave you the impression that PCB is incurring losses from hosting WI, SL? Those teams are test-playing nations that carry the reputation of regular teams like Australia, England, South Africa and New Zealand in terms of sponsors. Hence PCB was able to host Sri Lanka and West Indies many times.

And including the recent where PCB was in profit for hosting West Indies despite the fact that West Indies is not the same as 90s. From the sponsor's perspective, it is brand name that can fetch good bargain but for how long might be the key here.

As i said repeatedly, the status of Bangladesh hasn't changed from the sponsor's point of view which may not fetch good bargain in the inexpensive regions to generate decent turnover to make up for the investments [hotel arrangements]. That is why hosting Bangladesh in Pakistan seems affordable relatively and ideal. It has nothing to do with bossing BCB around.

Even if PCB misses out from BCB, then it is not end of the world. Despite not being able to host at home [Pakistan], PCB still managed to fetch good bargains from the sponsor simply by hosting its home series in the inexpensive UAE, and remained profitable for years including PSL. So whether in Pakistan or UAE, Pakistan cricket is safe for now. But hosting minnow teams in inexpensive regions? That would be risk taker.

From the diplomatic relationship with BCB, only BCB wins. I don't see how PCB can benefit from having diplomatic relationship with BCB since PCB cannot afford to host Bangladesh team in inexpensive UAE to begin with. That is why i believe PCB can afford not to care.

Financially, PCB benefits nothing from maintaining diplomatic tactics with BCB.... What about the time pcb begged bcb for money, as for promoting our cricket, when pcb was going strong, bd got invited to Pakistan, how many times?

carry the reputation of regular teams like Australia, England, South Africa and New Zealand in terms of sponsors. Hence PCB was able to host Sri Lanka and West Indies many times... Yh because new zealand and Sri Lanka attract so much sponsors that bd companies has to sponsor majority of it

Keep living in lala land and pretend Pakistan is some superpower in cricket, when it's scraping by, like West Indies Sri Lanka new zealand bring more money

[MalikBro]

Originally Posted by tiger1000
Financially, PCB benefits nothing from maintaining diplomatic tactics with BCB.... What about the time pcb begged bcb for money, as for promoting our cricket, when pcb was going strong, bd got invited to Pakistan, how many times?

PCB begged BCB for money? If anything, PCB charged money when BCB wanted to host Pakistan in Bangladesh. If you want Pakistan cricket, pay the money which to me is understandable given that's how the world works.

I don't remember PCB hosting Bangladesh much, but in 2008, PCB didn't have much cricket so PCB was generous to host Bangladesh in front of Pakistan. And that was the last of it.

carry the reputation of regular teams like Australia, England, South Africa and New Zealand in terms of sponsors. Hence PCB was able to host Sri Lanka and West Indies many times... Yh because new zealand and Sri Lanka attract so much sponsors that bd companies has to sponsor majority of it

Big brands sell, small brands don't. That is the way the business is.

New Zealand and Sri Lanka are big brands.

Keep living in lala land and pretend Pakistan is some superpower in cricket, when it's scraping by, like West Indies Sri Lanka new zealand bring more money

Who said Pakistan is some superpower? Although PCB was powerhouse economically in 90s, and even without playing India most of times.

In UAE, it is not the worth the risk hosting Bangladesh in exchange for small turnover. Big brands fetch good bargain, small brands don't.

If you are offended by not being hosted in UAE, then Bangladesh is always welcome in Pakistan.

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by MalikBro
PCB begged BCB for money? If anything, PCB charged money when BCB wanted to host Pakistan in Bangladesh. If you want Pakistan cricket, pay the money which to me is understandable given that's how the world works.

I don't remember PCB hosting Bangladesh much, but in 2008, PCB didn't have much cricket so PCB was generous to host Bangladesh in front of Pakistan. And that was the last of it.




Big brands sell, small brands don't. That is the way the business is.

New Zealand and Sri Lanka are big brands.



Who said Pakistan is some superpower? Although PCB was powerhouse economically in 90s, and even without playing India most of times.

In UAE, it is not the worth the risk hosting Bangladesh in exchange for small turnover. Big brands fetch good bargain, small brands don't.

If you are offended by not being hosted in UAE, then Bangladesh is always welcome in Pakistan.

When a country tours, it gets a share of the revenue, it doesn't ask to be paid a random figure

New Zealand and Sri Lanka, are such big brands, that they get very little sponsors, such big brands that BD companies sponsored the tours for the majority, such big brands that their TV viewership is dwarfed by bd viewership, such big brands that they play in empty grounds at home

Saying Bangladesh isn't financially viable to host in UAE is fine, what doesn't make sense is saying, West Indies, Sri Lanka, New Zealand is, when they don't bring as much money. Fact is unless the Big 3 tour, pcb struggles to make a profit

It's a simple tactic PCB is trying to use to make Bangladesh tour Pakistan.

I don't understand why Pakistani fans are always so blind to the truth, your Board is slowly ruining your cricket, it's ran by bunch of idiots, and before you jump to the defence of the idiots, most of the fans on here readily admit when our board president acts like an idiot, this denial thing is nearly only done by Pakistani fans

You guys deny everything, from blatant ball tampering, chucking to your stupid decisions by the board

[MalikBro]

Originally Posted by tiger1000
When a country tours, it gets a share of the revenue, it doesn't ask to be paid a random figure

New Zealand and Sri Lanka, are such big brands, that they get very little sponsors, such big brands that BD companies sponsored the tours for the majority, such big brands that their TV viewership is dwarfed by bd viewership, such big brands that they play in empty grounds at home

But when Pakistan hosts New Zealand and Sri Lanka, that alone fetch good bargain for PCB. And the reason PCB is able to host the full series due to available of sponsors because of oppositions that are already brand.

New Zealand and Sri Lanka test-playing nations that have established brand all over the worlds, and precisely why they get hosted all over the world. More than that, New Zealand regularly plays Australia in Australian turf. It is not just Pakistan alone.

Whereas for Bangladesh, it is still being developed in terms of brand especially in Test series. In essence, the brand suffers in terms of overall the series. At best, Bangladesh can be hosted for limited series. But in UAE? That is even too expensive with little turnover.

Saying Bangladesh isn't financially viable to host in UAE is fine, what doesn't make sense is saying, West Indies, Sri Lanka, New Zealand is, when they don't bring as much money. Fact is unless the Big 3 tour, pcb struggles to make a profit

Bangladesh is financially viable at their home. But in overseas, i don't remember any teams hosting Bangladesh for the full series citing 3 Test matches and 5 ODI matches and few T20 matches. At best, it fulfills the criteria for limited series.

But the day is not that far when Bangladesh cricket might be able to fetch good bargain for the full series in the overseas given the process of Bangladesh cricket lately.

It's a simple tactic PCB is trying to use to make Bangladesh tour Pakistan.

I don't understand why Pakistani fans are always so blind to the truth, your Board is slowly ruining your cricket, it's ran by bunch of idiots, and before you jump to the defence of the idiots, most of the fans on here readily admit when our board president acts like an idiot, this denial thing is nearly only done by Pakistani fans

I agree and to the extent no one defends PCB but in terms of financially, it is bold and risky to host Bangladesh team in inexpensive UAE which cannot be denied. If the money was there, PCB would have taken in heart beat but the money is not there for Bangladesh in overseas. PCB is better off hosting its home series with Bangladesh in Bangladesh but then again, PCB has no need for Bangladesh since PCB has already lined up its home series with the rest of cricket teams at UAE till 2020.

You guys are making it ego issue because PCB is not longer promoting cricket in Bangladesh cricket. Now Bangladesh cricket is brand as many claim, it is only fair that you guys should be fine without Pakistan cricket. No offense.

PCB, SLC and BCCI have done lots of promoting cricket in Bangladesh for years. Not many nation get that privilege.

That being said, i hope PCB hosts Bangladesh in UAE but in terms of financially, it is not feasible. PCB would rather host PSL again than to host Bangladesh team unless Bangladesh agrees to play in Pakistan where the expenses are local and affordable. The whole point of PSL is to slowly integrate cricket into Pakistan through step-by-step process. If Bangladesh doesn't want to play in Pakistan, then there is no point dragging this topic furthermore, is there?

You guys deny everything, from blatant ball tampering, chucking to your stupid decisions by the board

That sounds like screaming insecurity all over the place.

[brockley]

BPL will fill its quota,even if they get some Associates to make up for Pakistanis not coming.

[Mas_UK25]

MalikBro

Plz give it a rest. Bro. Your living in denial like most your fans. BD is a big brand now, if you didn't know BD cricket is grown big ways not only by; performing and reaching 6th in the ODI ranks, reaching QF or SF. Today, BD cricket market has grown bigger, last many series home and away Bangladeshi brands came forward to sponsor. What sponsors do NZ and SL you mentioned bring? Last BD to NZ and SL tours it was BD brands sponsoring it. My friend, the market only can grow in BD, you and your fellow fans are underestimating a cricket crazs nation of 170mill, cricket market is only going upwards and it only just became lots more money will pour in next decade.

One thing, about NZ. Come on, cricket is not even the 4th sport there I bet, how can a nation of 5mill be bigger brand than BD? BD has just began but it has the fan-base to take over most nations, only matter of time. Infact its started already.Youll now get more tv views/ratings, sponsors from BD than NZ/SL/WI, you name it.

If your on about money making out of a series. Above explains how BD is better to invite and play against. Hope your clear now.

[DinRaat.]

Originally Posted by MalikBro
But when Pakistan hosts New Zealand and Sri Lanka, that alone fetch good bargain for PCB. And the reason PCB is able to host the full series due to available of sponsors because of oppositions that are already brand.

New Zealand and Sri Lanka test-playing nations that have established brand all over the worlds, and precisely why they get hosted all over the world. More than that, New Zealand regularly plays Australia in Australian turf. It is not just Pakistan alone.

Whereas for Bangladesh, it is still being developed in terms of brand especially in Test series. In essence, the brand suffers in terms of overall the series. At best, Bangladesh can be hosted for limited series. But in UAE? That is even too expensive with little turnover.





Bangladesh is financially viable at their home. But in overseas, i don't remember any teams hosting Bangladesh for the full series citing 3 Test matches and 5 ODI matches and few T20 matches. At best, it fulfills the criteria for limited series.

But the day is not that far when Bangladesh cricket might be able to fetch good bargain for the full series in the overseas given the process of Bangladesh cricket lately.



I agree and to the extent no one defends PCB but in terms of financially, it is bold and risky to host Bangladesh team in inexpensive UAE which cannot be denied. If the money was there, PCB would have taken in heart beat but the money is not there for Bangladesh in overseas. PCB is better off hosting its home series with Bangladesh in Bangladesh but then again, PCB has no need for Bangladesh since PCB has already lined up its home series with the rest of cricket teams at UAE till 2020.

You guys are making it ego issue because PCB is not longer promoting cricket in Bangladesh cricket. Now Bangladesh cricket is brand as many claim, it is only fair that you guys should be fine without Pakistan cricket. No offense.

PCB, SLC and BCCI have done lots of promoting cricket in Bangladesh for years. Not many nation get that privilege.

That being said, i hope PCB hosts Bangladesh in UAE but in terms of financially, it is not feasible. PCB would rather host PSL again than to host Bangladesh team unless Bangladesh agrees to play in Pakistan where the expenses are local and affordable. The whole point of PSL is to slowly integrate cricket into Pakistan through step-by-step process. If Bangladesh doesn't want to play in Pakistan, then there is no point dragging this topic furthermore, is there?




That sounds like screaming insecurity all over the place.

Don`t feed the troll, "Sri Lanka and NZ are big brands"

Stopped reading after that.

[Mas_UK25]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.
Don`t feed the troll, "Sri Lanka and NZ are big brands"

Stopped reading after that.

I couldn't resist myself though. The brother needed to be educated on that matter. Some can have misconceptions or not updated on the latest big brands.

[MalikBro]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.
Don`t feed the troll, "Sri Lanka and NZ are big brands"

Stopped reading after that.

Sri Lanka and New Zealand have been regularly hosted for the full series in the last ten years. What is so surprising about that?

[MalikBro]

Originally Posted by Mas_UK25
I couldn't resist myself though. The brother needed to be educated on that matter. Some can have misconceptions or not updated on the latest big brands.

Then why big brands like Sri Lanka and New Zealand get complete series in the overseas regularly? I don't remember the last time Bangladesh got complete series regularly in overseas. Right now, Bangladesh is hosted for limited series, and precisely the same reason why hosting Bangladesh is considered risky in inexpensive UAE.

Bangladesh started its cricket in 1998. New Zealand and Sri Lanka have been playing for the long time. Their brands have been developed long time ago which has certain effects on the sponsors to invest.

No offense to Bangladesh cricket, but surely, that should not surprising why New Zealand and Sri Lanka are big brands. And i am not talking about performance wise only.

[DinRaat.]

Originally Posted by MalikBro
Sri Lanka and New Zealand have been regularly hosted for the full series in the last ten years. What is so surprising about that?

Go see the viewership for the matches NZ and SL generate, and look at the viewership we generate.

[tiger1000]

Originally Posted by MalikBro
Sri Lanka and New Zealand have been regularly hosted for the full series in the last ten years. What is so surprising about that?

Because they have been better teams in past 10 years?

Nothing to do with brands, but rather ability

Brand is how much money you bring in, via sponsorship and viewership, fact is bd brings in more than nz and SL on both fronts, as evidenced by our recent tour of them

I don't think even bd fans claimed they are any good at tests pre 2015

That's another thing about Pakistani fans, they all live in the past

I don't mind if bd plays pak or not, but not playing harms both to an extent

If we do play, hopefully, Imad Hafeez Junaid have been tested and banned by then, last time you had steroid yasir and chucking Junaid leading the attack... But of course shah was never on illegal substances and Junaid isn't literally throwing the ball

[MalikBro]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.
Go see the viewership for the matches NZ and SL generate, and look at the viewership we generate.

At home. There is no denying that.

Originally Posted by tiger1000
Because they have been better teams in past 10 years?

Nothing to do with brands, but rather ability

Brand is how much money you bring in, via sponsorship and viewership, fact is bd brings in more than nz and SL on both fronts, as evidenced by our recent tour of them

I don't think even bd fans claimed they are any good at tests pre 2015

That's another thing about Pakistani fans, they all live in the past

I don't mind if bd plays pak or not, but not playing harms both to an extent

If we do play, hopefully, Imad Hafeez Junaid have been tested and banned by then, last time you had steroid yasir and chucking Junaid leading the attack... But of course shah was never on illegal substances and Junaid isn't literally throwing the ball

Except we are not talking about the sponsorship and viewership at home.

It is good thing that Pakistan won't be hosting Bangladesh for a while. It is not fun playing playing the team that resorts to conspiracy theory all the time.

[Pakman]

Originally Posted by MalikBro
At home. There is no denying that.





Except we are not talking about the sponsorship and viewership at home.

It is good thing that Pakistan won't be hosting Bangladesh for a while. It is not fun playing playing the team that resorts to conspiracy theory all the time.

If i am not wrong BPL will take place in november & so does global league of South africa. There are two teams in global league owned by Pakistanis, though players has not been anounced yet but i think few of Pakistani players will be signed up for them. And we also have full series with srilanka in UAE starting from october to december. So i hardly thinks our top notch players will be available for either of those leagues.

And malik bro i think Pakistan should allow players to play in that league because that will give very good impression about Pakistan and we should also see how bangladesh board acts & how they return the favor.

[DinRaat.]

Originally Posted by MalikBro
At home. There is no denying that.





Except we are not talking about the sponsorship and viewership at home.

It is good thing that Pakistan won't be hosting Bangladesh for a while. It is not fun playing playing the team that resorts to conspiracy theory all the time.

Hehehe you speak of conspiracy theories, but your nation has vomited out the worst of the worst.

For example: Your nation believed certain mobile phone numbers would release high frequency waves that will lead to brain hemorrhages

Link:https://www.thoughtco.com/g00/death-...ogle.com.au%2F

2nd Conspiracy: Your so called islamists and beard preaching mullahs, educate the people to not vaccinate their children against polio, and I think even you know that is a known fact.

3rd Conspiracy: Trump apparently born in pakistan

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...stan/21606571/

[iDumb]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.

3rd Conspiracy: Trump apparently born in pakistan

I don't think this is conspiracy. Sounds factual.

[Pakman]

Originally Posted by DinRaat.
Hehehe you speak of conspiracy theories, but your nation has vomited out the worst of the worst.

For example: Your nation believed certain mobile phone numbers would release high frequency waves that will lead to brain hemorrhages

Link:https://www.thoughtco.com/g00/death-...ogle.com.au%2F

2nd Conspiracy: Your so called islamists and beard preaching mullahs, educate the people to not vaccinate their children against polio, and I think even you know that is a known fact.

3rd Conspiracy: Trump apparently born in pakistan

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...stan/21606571/

I think malikbro was referring to cricket when he talked about conspiracy. Sir you dont need to drag the topic to something else.
And i being a Pakistani dont believe in any of those conspiracy theories. Infact i personally never heard any of those conspiracy theories before expect of second one. Which only few of the uneducated people from remote tribal areas living in mountains believes in.

[shujan]

Pakistan lost the series to Bangladesh 3-0. They are afraid to loose again that is the reason they canceled the upcoming series in Bangladesh.

Why dont Pakistanies show some courage and come and play in Bangladesh. Lets see who is the better team?

[Tigers_eye]

Biggest question. Is all payment has been made? To the players and coaches? Didn't go through the thread. Sorry if it has already been answered.

[Shaan]

Originally Posted by shujan
Pakistan lost the series to Bangladesh 3-0. They are afraid to loose again that is the reason they canceled the upcoming series in Bangladesh.

Why dont Pakistanies show some courage and come and play in Bangladesh. Lets see who is the better team?

this unpredictable pakistan will lose next 7 matches out of ten. and these three wins will make their fans think that all their plyers are from mars, all of a sudden no competitive teams or players in this earth can matc them, that's how pakistan fans think. umar, babar, the new slogger is better then kohli, hasan is better then mcgrath, ambrose, tendu is no where near to imad wasim that is how they tend to get hype after one success.

[Pakman]

Originally Posted by Shaan
this unpredictable pakistan will lose next 7 matches out of ten. and these three wins will make their fans think that all their plyers are from mars, all of a sudden no competitive teams or players in this earth can matc them, that's how pakistan fans think. umar, babar, the new slogger is better then kohli, hasan is better then mcgrath, ambrose, tendu is no where near to imad wasim that is how they tend to get hype after one success.

Well thats the irony of our people we do seems to forget but still you cant rule out the fact that Pakistan can beat any team any where, even now when we are at our worst condition and when we were at the bottom of the table and every one was looking down upon us and were claiming that this team may even lose to team like afghanistan even then this team of ours still managed to get the trophy despite being isolated from hosting in home, despite being least favorite to win & despite having so much young unexperianced players in team . And thats why we are unpredictables.

And lol plz dont exaggerate that much, we have never claimed that umar akmal is better than kohli otherwise he would have never been dropped from team and hassan is still young guy and is very early to compare him with greats like mcgrath & abrose. And imad wasim is no where near to tendulkar. And babar is not a slogger, he is a very good batsmen infact the only batsmen in our team that can literally bat.

[Pakman]

Originally Posted by shujan
Pakistan lost the series to 3-0. They are afraid to loose again that is the reason they canceled the upcoming series in .

Why dont Pakistanies show some courage and come and play in . Lets see who is the better team?

woooo you have busted our evil plans now what should we do now

[Mas_UK25]

Pak players will come like last time in numbers too. Money talks. BPL is older than PSL. Once the incompetent cricekt gove of BPL takes the league to proper home and away, then bpl will blossom so much even more. Sad thing is these dhaka centric bunch still on a tuktuk in regards to improving facilities elsewhere and taking cricket around BD. This why BPL is suffering from lack of quality.