Match Thread: 1st Test - Bangladesh vs. Zimbabwe at SBNS, Dhaka; October 25 - 29, 2014

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Can't disagree. I've given up on Shahadat, but he's still the only test class pacer (apart from healthy Masri) we've produced. Robiul should have still made the squad, but then again he only took 1 wicket in the tour game.
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He only bowled 12 overs in the first innings and 3 overs in the second. SR 36 is still better. Econ 2.4 is not bad. Sharapova is like Afridi without even occasional performance. Needs other players to run through his hair. Has he auditioned at FDC yet?

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
He only bowled 12 overs in the first innings and 3 overs in the second. SR 36 is still better. Econ 2.4 is not bad. Sharapova is like Afridi without even occasional performance. Needs other players to run through his hair. Has he auditioned at FDC yet?

Well I'm curious not because of Faruk's statement - selectors will say 2 + 2 = red just to back up their picks. But Streak said he was the fittest of the pacers. No one ever doubted his potential if he worked hard and used his brain. An econ rate of 4 is fine if he's chipping in with wickets.

[Eshen]

Sounds like the selectors planning to field Al Amin, even with the ban hanging over his head. If he gets banned while playing in a match, he still will be allowed to finish the match. I wonder how effective he will be with this black cloud over his head.

In the BLEEP test, Robiul scored 8 (well bellow international standard) and Shahadat 11.2, which prompted the selectors to give boot to Robiul and keep Shahadat.

http://www.kalerkantho.com/print-edi...4/10/24/142839

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Sounds like the selectors planning to field Al Amin, even with the ban hanging over his head. If he gets banned while playing in a match, he still will be allowed to finish the match. I wonder how effective he will be with this black cloud over his head.

In the BLEEP test, Robiul scored 8 (well bellow international standard) and Shahadat 11.2, which prompted the selectors to give boot to Robiul and keep Shahadat.

http://www.kalerkantho.com/print-edi...4/10/24/142839

If he plays, and then gets banned will the selectors take the blame?

[Eshen]

Selectors taking the blame! We should not even think about something so ridiculously impossible!

They will always find some excuse to justify whatever they decide

[Rinathq]

Regardless of how many batsmen or seamers play, I would like to see 2 specialist spinners in addition to Shak and Riyad. We need 20 wickets. Our batsmen are unreliable regardless of many are picked and i wont even waste my words on seamers.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by rinathq
Regardless of how many batsmen or seamers play, I would like to see 2 specialist spinners in addition to Shak and Riyad. We need 20 wickets. Our batsmen are unreliable regardless of many are picked and i wont even waste my words on seamers.

Bat to 7 then pick 2 spinners out of taijul, sajib and jubair then 2 pacers. No matter how bad the pacers are its a big risk only taking one seamer and nasir isn't there to chip in with his mediums so I think 2 pacers have to be picked, then one of taijul and sajib then jubair.

[cricbook]

good luck for jubair.....and others time will tell.....who is broadcasting in u.s.a guys? { was expecting espn360....but still not sure they will?}

[M.H.Rubel]

Who will bat at #3? I think its Marshall. Imrul is the 1st choice of the coach but he is injured so Marshall will get few more chance. I have never seen Hom playing at top order. Without testing sending Hom at #3 will not be wise.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by M.H.Rubel
Who will bat at #3? I think its Marshall. Imrul is the 1st choice of the coach but he is injured so Marshall will get few more chance. I have never seen Hom playing at top order. Without testing sending Hom at #3 will not be wise.

You never know because Marshall wasn't a #3 until he came into the test team so they could do it again with hom, reckon it'd be wiser to place mushy at 3.

[Eshen]

As per Mushfiq, Zubair is very likely to get his cap.

আনুষ্ঠানিক সংবাদ সম্মেলনে অধিনায়ক মুশফিকুর রহিম জানান, স্পিন নির্ভর উইকেটে খেলা হলে প্রথম টেস্টের দলে থাকতে পারেন জুবায়ের।

“উইকেট স্পিন নির্ভর হবে, তাই তার খেলার সুযোগ অনেক বেশি। দলে বিশেষজ্ঞ স্পিনার শুধু জুবায়ের আর তাইজুল (ইসলাম)। সেদিক থেকে ওর খেলার সম্ভাবনা অনেক বেশি। আশা করব, সুযোগ পেলে সে সেরাটা দেবে।”

“তাইজুল, জুবায়ের অনভিজ্ঞ হলেও ছোট বেলা থেকে ওরা এই কন্ডিশনে খেলছে। তাইজুল শেষ দুটি টেস্টে ভালো করেছে। জুবায়ের জিম্বাবুয়ে ‘এ’ দলের বিপক্ষে ভালো করেছে। আশা করবো তিন স্পিনারই যেন ‘ডমিনেট’ করে।”

-bdnews24

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by Gowza
Bat to 7 then pick 2 spinners out of taijul, sajib and jubair then 2 pacers. No matter how bad the pacers are its a big risk only taking one seamer and nasir isn't there to chip in with his mediums so I think 2 pacers have to be picked, then one of taijul and sajib then jubair.

One pacer is good enough if the condition dictates. I don't want "nothing Shahadat". Fitness level alone do not fetch you wickets or runs.

[M.H.Rubel]

Originally Posted by Gowza
You never know because Marshall wasn't a #3 until he came into the test team so they could do it again with hom, reckon it'd be wiser to place mushy at 3.

Mushy at #3 is a remote option for now. Let's talk about the current options.

[M.H.Rubel]

Bangladesh (possible):
1 Tamim Iqbal,
2 Shamsur Rahman,
3 Marshall Ayub,
4 Mominul Haque,
5 Mushfiqur Rahim
(capt & wk),
6 Shakib Al Hasan,
7 Mahmudullah,
8 Shuvagata Hom/Jubair
Hossain,
9 Shafiul Islam,
10 Al-Amin Hossain,
11 Taijul Islam

http://www.espncricinfo.com/banglade...ry/792095.html

[mufi_02]

I don't know if we need two SLAs in Shakib and Taijul. So Shakib as the SLA, Riyad as the offie, and Jubair the leg spinner is a good combination. But at the same time have no idea about Jubair and he is still so young with almost no experience. On the other hand Taijul picks tons of wickets in these slow pitches in domestics. So either would be a good choice.

Main concern is in batting department.

By the way, I don't think anyone would take my post seriously with this Shahadat avatar. But when he takes a fifer or sixer then I will be hit hit..

[Eshen]

Instead of looking at who bowls with which hand, we should be looking at who is most effective on a given pitch against a given opposition.

If it were up to me, I would have taken three SLAs in Shakib, Taijul, and Saqlain.

If Marshall is a serious contender for #3, why did not he bat from that position in the warm up against Zimbabwe? Hathuri did not even let him bat in the practice match (Red vs Green)!

Shuvagata did well in the practice match and in the warm up. It will be ridiculous to see him making way for a non performing Marshall.

[Eshen]

With the SG ball against likes of Chatara,Panyangara, and Chigumbura, on a flat Mirpur pitch, anyone from our middle order should be able to fit into the #3 slot. Just wondering why even Marshall is being given a special consideration for the slot (given he is not even a specialized top order batsman, given he is not performing).

[Eshen]

Quote from Mushfiq:

“সাকিব ফেরায় আমাদের স্পিন বিভাগ শক্তিশালী হয়েছে, ব্যাটিংটাও কিছুটা মজবুত হয়েছে। উদ্বোধনী জুটির সমস্যা মিটেছে। তামিম ছন্দে এসেছেন। মুমিনুল, রিয়াদ, শুভাগত ভালো খেলছে। ব্যাটিংয়ের প্রথম সাতজন আমাদের মূল শক্তি।” -bdnews24

No mention of Marshall. I guess Isam's probable is his wishful thinking, as opposed to any insider scoop.

[Eshen]

Dav Whatmore will be one of the commentators during the series.

[mufi_02]

^I thought Whatmore was still the Pak coach. So he transitioned from coaching to commentary now and that too in a low key BD-ZIM series.

[Eshen]

This sounds more logical -

Mominul Haque will be promoted in the batting order from number four to three, said a source inside the team. Before the first Test, Bangladesh’s only selection dilemma is pace bowler Al –Amin Hossain, who is suffering from a side strain. Should Al-Amin play, he will share the new ball with Shahadat Hossain, otherwise, Rubel Hossain will take his place. -New Age

[zimfan]

At a guess our side will be the following, only real question is the second spinner after Nyumbu.

1. Sibanda
2. Raza
3. Hamilton
4. Taylor
5. Ervine
6. Chigumbura
7. Mutumbambi
8. Nyumbu
9. Panyunguara
10. Chatara
11. Kamungodzi

[Eshen]

^^No Wellington? Taylor does not keep in Test matches?

[mufi_02]

Originally Posted by zimfan
At a guess our side will be the following, only real question is the second spinner after Nyumbu.

1. Sibanda
2. Raza
3. Hamilton
4. Taylor
5. Ervine
6. Chigumbura
7. Mutumbambi
8. Nyumbu
9. Panyunguara
10. Chatara
11. Kamungodzi

this is a very different side than the last one we faced. from number 7 to 11, all these players are very unknown to us.

[zimfan]

Originally Posted by mufi_02
this is a very different side than the last one we faced. from number 7 to 11, all these players are very unknown to us.

I really rate our two pacers Chatara and Panyungara i think they are worthy international bowlers. Although i didnt like the tone the Rahim communicated it in his does have a point that our spinners are inexperienced with only one test between them.