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December 6, 2006, 06:53 PM
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Bangladeshi cricket fans rejoice!I I see no reason whatsoever for this skepticism. Mashud is being 'rested' at last. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of his ODI career.
Rasel is still very much vying for the slot of our 2nd pacer. In fact a Rasel Rajib combo has worked better for us than with a rajib Mashrafee partnership.
Tushar's omission is senseless to say the least. Unlike the popular view in this forum, I believe that Tushar has what it takes to succeed as a permanent middle order batsman. The inexperience and inconsistency of our batsmen strengthens the need for his inclusion. Rahim had to come in for Mashud.
I also wanted to see a third specialist pacer in the team. This SLA ploy would explode in our face when we play any decent team. Every one of them are defensive, containing bowlers.We will go for no less than 300 every time we decide to field this bowling line-up against a better team. We desperately need another quickie. Tapash, Shafaq, Sharif....anyone!
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December 6, 2006, 09:34 PM
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Its a good news that Mushfiq got the nod. Hopefully he'll play at least one game (5th one probably). People who said that he doesn't know how to bat should recall the century he scored against a good county team in England. I know he's not in form but that can change in just one inning.
If Rasel plays he will replace Mash not Shahadat cause Mash needs the rest.
Poor Tushar..his career might end prematurely like Bidyut. I hope not.
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December 6, 2006, 10:57 PM
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I dont think they'll replace Mashud with Mushfiq for the last 2 ODI's..even though i would like to see Mushfiq play! And about AClass's performance.. doesnt matter that Mushfiq scored 85 runs in 8 matches.. Shahriar Nafees's Aclass match stats are quite bad..he got pushed into the team from mama chachar khatir. A CLASS and INT.Cricket is very different. I dont think Mushfiq is any different than Khaled Mashud really..We arent having a keeper like Dhoni,Boucher,Sangakkara in the recent future..probably 1 or 2 year more..then we might get one..BD really produces bad wk batsmen.It would have been great if Aftab wasnt an Okey bowler..we could have taught him how to do wicket-keeping.
SS : I dont think TI should retire..why should he? He's the captain of A team..he's in very good form..scoring runs in Alist matches,NCL matches..and most importantly he wasnt dropped for bad performance this time unlike always.
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December 6, 2006, 10:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fazal
Yes every thing is ideal for a new in-from talent to try for. But the only problem is Rahim is now off form. And regadless how ideal the situation is, usually you don't try a off-form new talent for national team.
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Fazal bhai...I agree with you, but in a different way. I agree that he's off form...but I wanted his inclusion not for batting only, but for keeping as wel. Since we bagged the tournament, his keeping and batting standards at this level could both be tested together. I think it's a bad decision by the selectors. Tushar should've been kept instead of Pilot.
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December 7, 2006, 12:24 AM
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Smart move by the selectors. But I hope that Mushfiq will play two ODI regardless of his performance in first ODI. A player can't be judged by only one ODI...that will not be fair.
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December 7, 2006, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CricFanBD
Smart move by the selectors. But I hope that Mushfiq will play two ODI regardless of his performance in first ODI. A player can't be judged by only one ODI...that will not be fair.
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Moreover, I hope people don't complain if he has a slow strike rate. He might just be like Mehrab jr. who wants to settle down first.
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December 7, 2006, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by muradnyc
guys.. i dont like this mushiq.. shala run korte parena..
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Dulabhai hoye shalar bodnam!...Bhabi shunley...rannay kintu lobon beshi thakbe ekhon thek-e!!
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December 7, 2006, 02:33 AM
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I just hope Rahim doesn't perform worse than Pilot. cause Pilot deserves a rest, and that won't happend if Rahim doesn't perform.
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December 7, 2006, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by cricket_dorshok
What was/is the basis for Tusher's inclusion/exclusion.
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Tushar was included, and excluded without playing any match. So form is not the question. Selector has given an excuse but that is not clean.
Now musfiq has been included. Where is his slot? If he replaces Masud then he would get a chance, otherwise he will has also remain without playing.
How selector are processing the selection that is not transparent and meaningful. Ashraful's exclusion and inclusion, one was definitely wrong. This effect has been continuing still and will.
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December 7, 2006, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by cricket_dorshok
What was/is the basis for Tusher's inclusion/exclusion.
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Tushar was included to play in the position 4 or 5... but that was before Ash was taken back in the team. After Ash being recalled... No more valid reasons to keep Tushar in.
On the other hand... Mushfiq is probably included to replace Pilot since he is suffering from bad batting form.
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December 7, 2006, 09:06 AM
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Eventhough its unfortunate, it happens all the time in cricket when someone gets dropped without even playing a match. Tushar is unfortunate to get dropped like this but he had no chance to play in the series and he is better off playing the domestic cricket.
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December 7, 2006, 10:35 AM
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Tusher is our backup player. he can continue with A team and when ever players get injured or something he can come and fill the position. and may be he will start doing better cause he is still young and he had lot of potential when he started. So don't write him off yet
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1. Shahadat Hossain: Mufambisi c Mashud; Chigumbura lbw; Utseya c Mashud
2. Abdur Razzak: P Utseya caught; RW Price lbw; CB Mpofu lbw
3. Rubel Hossain: Corey J A bowled; BB McCullum caught; JDS Neesham caught
4. Taijul Islam: T Panyangara bowled; J Nyumbu lbw; TL Chatara bowled
5. Taskin Ahmed: DAS Gunaratne c Soumya; Lakmal c fiz; Pradeep bowled
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December 7, 2006, 10:38 AM
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alsoits not all about one have to in the playing eleven. the young guys can learn lots of more things. like when they get selected (like mushfiq) he has access to NTL physio and ntl coach and other facilities. not to mention 24 coaching from pilot as they will be leaving in the same hotel. He will get a feeling how its like to be in the ntl team. so don't worry even if he doesn't get a playing time. but like the selectors said he probably will paly on the 5th.
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1. Shahadat Hossain: Mufambisi c Mashud; Chigumbura lbw; Utseya c Mashud
2. Abdur Razzak: P Utseya caught; RW Price lbw; CB Mpofu lbw
3. Rubel Hossain: Corey J A bowled; BB McCullum caught; JDS Neesham caught
4. Taijul Islam: T Panyangara bowled; J Nyumbu lbw; TL Chatara bowled
5. Taskin Ahmed: DAS Gunaratne c Soumya; Lakmal c fiz; Pradeep bowled
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December 7, 2006, 01:53 PM
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mushfiq is playing the 4th match.. and mashud is resting.....
but ei cheleta o mashud er moto.. very depensive shot khele.. number 7 e naima jodi depensive khele..taile to over furiye jaabe..
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December 7, 2006, 02:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muradnyc
mushfiq is playing the 4th match.. and mashud is resting.....
but ei cheleta o mashud er moto.. very depensive shot khele.. number 7 e naima jodi depensive khele..taile to over furiye jaabe..
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kan bhai onnera pitaibo shobirey ki martey hobey naki. ami chai she jodi name purata bat koruk. we have now grafters in number 2(mehrab), 4(Hasan) and 7(Mushfiq). rest to pita piti kheley so khrap ki.
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1. Shahadat Hossain: Mufambisi c Mashud; Chigumbura lbw; Utseya c Mashud
2. Abdur Razzak: P Utseya caught; RW Price lbw; CB Mpofu lbw
3. Rubel Hossain: Corey J A bowled; BB McCullum caught; JDS Neesham caught
4. Taijul Islam: T Panyangara bowled; J Nyumbu lbw; TL Chatara bowled
5. Taskin Ahmed: DAS Gunaratne c Soumya; Lakmal c fiz; Pradeep bowled
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December 7, 2006, 02:37 PM
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bhai... amra mashud ke complain korii cuz 1 run tulte.. onek gulo ic-keeper batsman lagbe...jei.. but mone hoina.. bd te bhalo batsman wicket-keeper ashbe..
mushfiq under-19 e thakte o erokom khelto.. i dont think hes gonna change.....
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December 7, 2006, 03:00 PM
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Sometimes the changes are made for the sake of change only. Mehrab Jr is slow like JO whom he replaced. I think Mushfiq's will be similar against Pilot. Still I support this change. Nothing can be worse than Pilot. He's a loser and we can't continue with him anymore. At least Mushfiq will have better attitude. Pilot is still with the same mind set when we used to play to bat for 50 overs. Pilot is still happy with a 50 ball 18 runs. This guy might do the same, but he won't be happy at least.
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December 8, 2006, 11:40 AM
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I thought Mushfiq's glove work was much better and agile in the 4th ODI compared to Pilot's performance in recent days. He was also pretty vocal for most of the match. As a side note - when pilot shouts behind the stumps, it is sort of hard to make out what he is saying, but Mushfiq's vocalizations are easier to understand - and that is useful when the keeper is trying to taunt the batsman.
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December 8, 2006, 01:27 PM
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SO Arrogant and rude
http://www.thedailystar.net/2006/12/09/d61209040327.htm
. But do you honestly think there is anybody who can replace me now? Yes, there is a question about my recent batting form but I honestly don't think it was too bad," he said.
The above is a comment by khaled Masud... if u ask me i think he breached the code of conduct... and should not be picked i the team at all ..
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December 8, 2006, 01:39 PM
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Mushfiq is much quicker than Pilot. I loved it when in one motion he jumped up, caught the ball, and while on the air, he swiped his hand with the ball at the wicket and saw Chigambura's back foot was in the creeze and somehow managed to stop himself from hitting the wicket. And then he came back to the ground. Amazing quick thinking and reflex. You can't teach that. My jaw dropped and he made me an instant fan right there.
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December 8, 2006, 01:51 PM
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I am very imprssed with the glovework of Mushfiq. The incident P-C mentioned and the stumping of Taylor was simply brilliant.
Now, if he can bat the way he batted in U-19 WC or in last England tour. He should be picked for the WC.
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December 8, 2006, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Miraz
I am very imprssed with the glovework of Mushfiq. The incident P-C mentioned and the stumping of Taylor was simply brilliant.
Now, if he can bat the way he batted in U-19 WC or in last England tour. He should be picked for the WC.
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Completely agree. I must admit that I was a little bit nervous to see Mushfique behind the stumps for the first time, but he brilliantly erased all of that with a left side dive to save a wide ball going for a boundary, from Shahadat's first over. Amazing reflex!! And like Miraz said, if he can perform with the bat, KMP will be a history in no time...
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December 8, 2006, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by HereWeGo
http://www.thedailystar.net/2006/12/09/d61209040327.htm
. But do you honestly think there is anybody who can replace me now? Yes, there is a question about my recent batting form but I honestly don't think it was too bad," he said.
The above is a comment by khaled Masud... if u ask me i think he breached the code of conduct... and should not be picked i the team at all ..
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Hmmm.... thats not a good sign.... looks like in future, whenever Pilot goes for good, it will be again a ChaCha saga ...or even worst.
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December 8, 2006, 04:07 PM
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mushy's keeping was never empasized...everyone from McInnes down, raved about his batting. i guess that happened since pilot is such a feeble batsman. but mushy's keeping was certainly top class...he might not be the best there is, but he left nothing wanting.
his batting cannot be worse than pilot's...but rather than putting him into our core rotation, lets wait another year or so, then put him in.
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December 8, 2006, 04:14 PM
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That was an awful, moaning, bitchy comment by khaled Mashud. He doesn't think that his batting has been that bad ! What? He has been taking up almost three balls per run coming to bat at no.7. With a much more settled batting order, we would require a batsman at n0.7 who can score atleast at run-a-ball. That is the order of the day. I have been watching Mashud's batting for a while now. This is not the same batsman who scored a stroke filled century against WI two years ago. He has to accept that fact. Selectors are correct in identifying this problem at no.7 in one day line up. Even if Rahim scores a run-a-ball 20+ from that position, it still is an upgrade from Pilot under the new scenario. Selectors were planning this for a while. In the African tour, if Bashar didn't get hurt, I was sure they would have played Rahim in place of Pilot who took over the captaincy then.
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