Is Miraz a genuine batsman?

[Rana Melb]

If you send him in 10/11spots tbh it doesnt matter how many innings you play. Plus mind set of the tailendes are different. So miraz needs to play up in the order to utilize his batting capability. We don't want another sohag gazi.

[jeesh]

Sometimes this happens in international cricket. A player starts out as a batsman or all rounder and develops into a bowler. Ashwin is a nice example of a former opening batsman turned into spinner.

But the boy can bat. The player himself needs to believe in his ability, and so do the captain/team/coach he plays under. I have a bad feeling those poor scores in the two tests have put a huge dent to his confidence.

[aklemalp]

For the sake of being an optimist...

I was watching his batting in the U-19 world cup

[Rana Melb]

Originally Posted by jeesh
Sometimes this happens in international cricket. A player starts out as a batsman or all rounder and develops into a bowler. Ashwin is a nice example of a former opening batsman turned into spinner.

But the boy can bat. The player himself needs to believe in his ability, and so do the captain/team/coach he plays under. I have a bad feeling those poor scores in the two tests have put a huge dent to his confidence.

Not only that but also he played very poorly in those 2 tests- almost like a tailenders.

[Cricket4All]

Originally Posted by jeesh
Sometimes this happens in international cricket. A player starts out as a batsman or all rounder and develops into a bowler.

Both Steven Smith and Fuff De Plessis started out as a bowler before they turn out to be world class batsman. I think Miraz has time on his side to become an international standard batsman on top of being an accurate off-spin bowler.

I don't know how much help he will be having in this regard from his BPL team management but his NCL team captain (Abdur Razzak) will have a positive role to play which is already reflected by his FC batting average of 40.

[Eshen]

He is not a heave ho hitter, relays more on timing. Anyone questioning his batting skills should watch following video:

[Rifat]

^^Something Mominul about his batting.

[Gowza]

Can't find the video(s) now to compare but actually reckon miraz (from what I remember) at u19s with the bat as far as technique looked better than mosaddek.

[jeesh]

If not better, at least similar.

Mosaddek is more of the resourceful, clever batsman, while Miraz a dogged, hardworking batsman who builds his innings with singles, two's. Hopefully we ll see that side of him very soon.

Good display with the ball yesterday by Miraz. This guy will come good in all formats.

[Rana Melb]

বিডিলাইভ রিপোর্ট: দেশের সেরা অফস্পিনার হিসেবে টেস্ট অভিষেক হয়ে গেছে মিরাজের। দুই টেস্টে ১৯ টি উইকেট নিয়ে নিজেকে নিয়ে গেছেন ইতিহাসের চূড়ায়। টেস্টে বলারের সাফল্য দেখে ভাবা হচ্ছে মিরাজ শুধু বোলার! ইংল্যান্ডের বিপক্ষে চট্টগ্রাম কিংবা ঢাকা কোনো টেস্টেই ব্যাটিং অর্ডারের গুরুত্বপূর্ণ পজিশনে সুযোগ পাননি মিরাজ।

বাংলাদেশ প্রিমিয়ার লিগেও (বিপিএল) দেখা যাচ্ছে শুধু বোলার মিরাজকে। রাজশাহী কিংসের হয়ে তিনটা ম্যাচ খেলার সুযোগ পেয়েছিলেন তিনি। আর তাতে দুটো ম্যাচে হেরেছে রাজশাহী। বলা ভাল, দু’টো ম্যাচেই মিডল অর্ডার ও লোয়ার মিডর অর্ডারের ব্যর্থতায় হেরেছে দলটা।

তাতে একটাতে মিরাজ ব্যাট করতে নেমেছেন ১০ নম্বরে। কোনো বল মোকাবেলা করার সুযোগ পাননি। অপর প্রান্তে বসে দলের পরাজয় দেখেছেন। আর অপর ম্যাচে বরিশাল বুলসের বিপক্ষে মাঠেই নামার সুযোগ হয়নি। দু’টো ম্যাচেই তার আগে ব্যাট করতে নেমেছেন আবুল হাসান রাজু, পাকিস্তানের মোহাম্মদ সামি কিংবা ফরহাদ রেজারা।

অথচ যুব ক্রিকেটে বাংলাদেশের সর্বোচ্চ তিন রান সংগ্রাহকের একজন হলেন মিরাজ। নাজমুল হোসেন শান্ত (৫৭ ইনিংসে ১৮২০) ও এনামুল হক বিজয়ের (৩৮ ইনিংসে ১৩২৬) পরই আছেন মিরাজ (৫১ ইনিংসে ১৩০৫)। অথচ, মিরাজকে আমরা শুধু বোলার বানিয়ে ছাড়লাম।

মিরাজ মূলত ব্যাটিং অলরাউন্ডার। তার মূল শক্তির জায়গা হল ব্যাটিং। ক’দিন আগে এই কথাটা খোদ মাশরাফি বিন মুর্তজা বলেছেন। শুধু মাশরাফির কথা বলে নয়, পরিসংখ্যান বলে শুধু সাদামাটা ব্যাটসম্যানই নন মিরাজ; দলের চাহিদা, ম্যাচের অবস্থা অনুযায়ী ব্যাট করার পারদর্শীতা আছে তার।

চলতি বছরের অনূর্ধ ১৯ বিশ্বকাপে বাংলাদেশকে সেমিফাইনারে নিয়ে যাওয়ার পেছনে বড় অবদান এই মিরাজের ব্যাটিংয়ের। পাঁচ ইনিংসে ২৪২ রান করেছেন; করেছেন টানা চারটা হাফ সেঞ্চুরি। কী আকাশচুম্বি চাপের মধ্যে তখন জ্বলে উঠেছে মিরাজের ব্যাট! সে তুলনায় বরং ১২ উইকেট নেওয়াটাকেই অনেক সাদামাটা পারফরম্যান্স মনে হয়।

বিপিএলে এসে তাকে স্রেফ বোলার হিসেবে দেখা হচ্ছে। অধিনায়ক ড্যারেন স্যামি ভিনদেশি বলে মিরাজের সামর্থ্যের কথা না জানতেই পারেন, তবে ম্যানেজমেন্টের ভুলে গেলে চলবে কি করে!


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[Shaan]

Originally Posted by Rana Melb
বিডিলাইভ রিপোর্ট: দেশের সেরা অফস্পিনার হিসেবে টেস্ট অভিষেক হয়ে গেছে মিরাজের। দুই টেস্টে ১৯ টি উইকেট নিয়ে নিজেকে নিয়ে গেছেন ইতিহাসের চূড়ায়। টেস্টে বলারের সাফল্য দেখে ভাবা হচ্ছে মিরাজ শুধু বোলার! ইংল্যান্ডের বিপক্ষে চট্টগ্রাম কিংবা ঢাকা কোনো টেস্টেই ব্যাটিং অর্ডারের গুরুত্বপূর্ণ পজিশনে সুযোগ পাননি মিরাজ।

বাংলাদেশ প্রিমিয়ার লিগেও (বিপিএল) দেখা যাচ্ছে শুধু বোলার মিরাজকে। রাজশাহী কিংসের হয়ে তিনটা ম্যাচ খেলার সুযোগ পেয়েছিলেন তিনি। আর তাতে দুটো ম্যাচে হেরেছে রাজশাহী। বলা ভাল, দু’টো ম্যাচেই মিডল অর্ডার ও লোয়ার মিডর অর্ডারের ব্যর্থতায় হেরেছে দলটা।

তাতে একটাতে মিরাজ ব্যাট করতে নেমেছেন ১০ নম্বরে। কোনো বল মোকাবেলা করার সুযোগ পাননি। অপর প্রান্তে বসে দলের পরাজয় দেখেছেন। আর অপর ম্যাচে বরিশাল বুলসের বিপক্ষে মাঠেই নামার সুযোগ হয়নি। দু’টো ম্যাচেই তার আগে ব্যাট করতে নেমেছেন আবুল হাসান রাজু, পাকিস্তানের মোহাম্মদ সামি কিংবা ফরহাদ রেজারা।

অথচ যুব ক্রিকেটে বাংলাদেশের সর্বোচ্চ তিন রান সংগ্রাহকের একজন হলেন মিরাজ। নাজমুল হোসেন শান্ত (৫৭ ইনিংসে ১৮২০) ও এনামুল হক বিজয়ের (৩৮ ইনিংসে ১৩২৬) পরই আছেন মিরাজ (৫১ ইনিংসে ১৩০৫)। অথচ, মিরাজকে আমরা শুধু বোলার বানিয়ে ছাড়লাম।

মিরাজ মূলত ব্যাটিং অলরাউন্ডার। তার মূল শক্তির জায়গা হল ব্যাটিং। ক’দিন আগে এই কথাটা খোদ মাশরাফি বিন মুর্তজা বলেছেন। শুধু মাশরাফির কথা বলে নয়, পরিসংখ্যান বলে শুধু সাদামাটা ব্যাটসম্যানই নন মিরাজ; দলের চাহিদা, ম্যাচের অবস্থা অনুযায়ী ব্যাট করার পারদর্শীতা আছে তার।

চলতি বছরের অনূর্ধ ১৯ বিশ্বকাপে বাংলাদেশকে সেমিফাইনারে নিয়ে যাওয়ার পেছনে বড় অবদান এই মিরাজের ব্যাটিংয়ের। পাঁচ ইনিংসে ২৪২ রান করেছেন; করেছেন টানা চারটা হাফ সেঞ্চুরি। কী আকাশচুম্বি চাপের মধ্যে তখন জ্বলে উঠেছে মিরাজের ব্যাট! সে তুলনায় বরং ১২ উইকেট নেওয়াটাকেই অনেক সাদামাটা পারফরম্যান্স মনে হয়।

বিপিএলে এসে তাকে স্রেফ বোলার হিসেবে দেখা হচ্ছে। অধিনায়ক ড্যারেন স্যামি ভিনদেশি বলে মিরাজের সামর্থ্যের কথা না জানতেই পারেন, তবে ম্যানেজমেন্টের ভুলে গেলে চলবে কি করে!


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bolod team management mone hoy gaza khaiya batting order sajay, amra sobai jani Miraz ki jinish ekjon batsman hisbe kintu mataha-mota team management ei bishoye kuno jouktikota dekhina.

by the way, dind't know Liton das, Mosaddek, Likhon, Rony were playing under his captaincy, that is just wow. this guy must be something special.

[Shaan]

[MHRAM]

Miraz led the team in 2014. He captained Fizz, Mosa, LKD, Shadman, Jubair, etc at the age of 16. Talk about captaincy skill and ability to lead from the front.

Its a farce that team management of RK are using Miraz as a bowler only. Miraz is as good as batsman as a bowler

[RealSports]

His batting should come gradually. At the moment, we need him as a spin bowler. Definitely we have the next Shakib among the ranks, but he looks potentially even better. Unlike Shakib, Miraz has a much better technique. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes his ODI debut next month. A bowling attack of Miraz, Shakib, Fizz, Mashrafe and Taskin is world class if you ask me.

[BengaliPagol]

I rather he focuses on his bowling for now. So im not too fussed with his batting. Im sure it will be come through eventually how it happened with Ashwin.

[adamnsu]

Atm we need to groom a future captain. He is the only one who has the qualities and some form of experience.

Before we start over analysing his batting we need to start to motivate him and have belief in him that he can only get better. His bowling seems to be his main thing, let him focus on that

[MHRAM]

His batting in U-19 level was very good, but when transitioning into international cricket you need to tinker the batting quite a bit, but when it comes to bowling, you need to maintain the basics and thats about it.

Miraz has struggled with bat because of the sudden jump to the national level and he can't even focus much on batting because he has to spend time bowling as well. Now, Miraz should definitely focus on both departments equally. We need a genuine allrounder which is the demand of the modern era. Miraz has the potential to be quality batsman if needed. Like many said, he is actually a batting allrounder.

He will also be a potential captain. Give him 5 years he will be a regular captain domestics, and when our stalwarts retire he is the prime candidate

[MHRAM]

Today scored 6 runs from 3 balls. While he has struggled to get the runs, by seeing his technique and shot selection you can understand that he is a genuine batsman.

[simon]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
Today scored 6 runs from 3 balls. While he has struggled to get the runs, by seeing his technique and shot selection you can understand that he is a genuine batsman.

this must be the shortest amount of time a cricketer took to prove himself a genuine batsman.

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by simon
this must be the shortest amount of time a cricketer took to prove himself a genuine batsman.

If he couldn't bat then he could not have won the team with his bat.

Well done Miraz.Could have posted 3(3) and team lost.

[MHRAM]

Originally Posted by simon
this must be the shortest amount of time a cricketer took to prove himself a genuine batsman.

Hehe i knew my comment would come under scrutiny. Its not only those 3 deliveries.

When he has come on to bat, even in BPL and U-19 WC. You could almost feel that he is a genuine batsman.

So what is the difference between Abul(a bowler who can bat) and Miraz? Miraz knows very well what he was trying to achieve. Abul would just blindly heave.

Would you believe me if i told you Abul lost his team not one but two matches with bat? YES sir he did. First against Khulna where he played a lot of dot balls and in the last over he couldn't get singles so he went for glory and got out. Next was against Barisal bulls chasing a mammoth 192. He was put to bat at no. 7! Wasted precious balls. Couldn't help his team get over the line despite being there till the end and that was one match RK looked dead set on winning.

Today Abul was made to bat early and failed, scored 4 from 6.

However, these small samples don't add upto much. You just need to listen to what his coaches have to say. Someone like Stewie Law said that Miraz is good enough to bat for BD in the top 6 in the near future.

He was the MVP of the U-19 world cup. Rajshahi kings should treat Miraz better as a batsman. He is no ordinary cricketer I tell you. He will be the guy who will take us to new heights

[simon]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
Hehe i knew my comment would come under scrutiny. Its not only those 3 deliveries.

When he has come on to bat, even in BPL and U-19 WC. You could almost feel that he is a genuine batsman.

So what is the difference between Abul(a bowler who can bat) and Miraz? Miraz knows very well what he was trying to achieve. Abul would just blindly heave.

Would you believe me if i told you Abul lost his team not one but two matches with bat? YES sir he did. First against Khulna where he played a lot of dot balls and in the last over he couldn't get singles so he went for glory and got out. Next was against Barisal bulls chasing a mammoth 192. He was put to bat at no. 7! Wasted precious balls. Couldn't help his team get over the line despite being there till the end and that was one match RK looked dead set on winning.

Today Abul was made to bat early and failed, scored 4 from 6.

However, these small samples don't add upto much. You just need to listen to what his coaches have to say. Someone like Stewie Law said that Miraz is good enough to bat for BD in the top 6 in the near future.

He was the MVP of the U-19 world cup. Rajshahi kings should treat Miraz better as a batsman. He is no ordinary cricketer I tell you. He will be the guy who will take us to new heights

the topic for me was not Abul vs Miraz.
I understand what you are saying, I also believe in him.
The difference between your opinion and mine is that you believe he is a genuine batsman and I believe he has what it takes to become a genuine batsman, he needs to work on it and hope he gets opportunities to bat.

[MHRAM]

Originally Posted by simon
the topic for me was not Abul vs Miraz.
I understand what you are saying, I also believe in him.
The difference between your opinion and mine is that you believe he is a genuine batsman and I believe he has what it takes to become a genuine batsman, he needs to work on it and hope he gets opportunities to bat.

I get your point and I agree that he has what it takes to become a genuine batsman in international cricket.

Obviously, the step from U-19 to internationals is quite steep as far as batting is concerned. He will eventually get better. But what I wanted to focus was that he already has the temperament of a batsman. He definitely gives off the vibe a proper batsman would give. Understands what needs to be done but lacks in execution.

Not to worry, a passionate kid like Miraz can improve easily. Haturi talks about his eagerness to improve. I have seen a lot of youngsters not trying to interact with the coaches due to language barrier and lack of comfort, but Miraz is always close to the coach when he is giving advice

[aklemalp]

Back when I was at my first cricket trials for the county under-15 team....the coaches used to group us as:

Bowler- pace and spin
Allrounder- bowling and batting
Batsmen- Established and rabbit.

No use of the word 'genuine'.

[Max100]

Originally Posted by Cricket4All
Both Steven Smith and Fuff De Plessis started out as a bowler before they turn out to be world class batsman. I think Miraz has time on his side to become an international standard batsman on top of being an accurate off-spin bowler.

I don't know how much help he will be having in this regard from his BPL team management but his NCL team captain (Abdur Razzak) will have a positive role to play which is already reflected by his FC batting average of 40.

Didn't know faf started as a bowler. Add mahmudullah riad in that list. Same goes to monoj probhakar and ashwin