A Deconstruction on Imrul Kayes - Page 2

Sohel · #26 May 5, 2012, 03:36 AM

I feel both Imrul and Imroze don't belong at this level because of their inability to correct rectifiable mistakes seen over the past 5 years! Instead, I'd go with (in tests and ODIs):

1. Tamim

2. B. Joy

3. Mominul

4. Riyad (tests, FORCE him to bat here)/Shakib (ODIs)

That being said, I'm not at all sure that either Mominul or in the near future Ratul can sustain success at the highest level. Hannan Sarkar, Nafis Iqbal, Aftab, Mofees and most recently Aumi sure couldn't, but I'd like to see the youngsters try. Other allegedly top order guys like Kohlimuddin, Kohlim Saleh and Kohlimul Hasan should never have been selected in the first place so their inevitable failure didn't disappoint me a bit.

BD Rox · #27 May 5, 2012, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
Yeah same here. Imrul deserves his chance in my opinion. He has been doing fairly well in the domestic circuit and also in the England Lions tour. He is trying to redeem himself but seems like he is being ignored.

Bhai, you seemed to have even change your Avatar, and that's Imrul. You're a desperate supporter of Imrul. BD needs some supporters like you for every playa.
I really like your posts, man. Keep it up. I'm with ya, mate.
Go Imrul!

mar umpire · #28 May 5, 2012, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Zunaid
Funny man. We don't want him chaffed do we?

Nah we don't
I was wondering more along the lines it might help Shahadat finally reverse the ball, or preserve the ball's shine-trescothick would recommend mentos (but that's hardly someone would wipe on their hands for softening), others would recommend stepping on it

or even biting it-but again nothing can be used as an alibi by imrul for his hands (pretty sure the ball isn't reinforced with vitamin E although afridi might think otherwise)

Isnaad · #29 May 5, 2012, 05:32 AM

I echo Dilscoop's words.

Sohel · #30 May 5, 2012, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dilscoop
People dont hate him. Hate is a strong word. He is just not as popular as the other guys. And I think that has lot to do with his personality. He comes out as a boring person. Also his batting style doesn't help either.

I'd say it's the unfortunate combination of his:

1) Streaky, fish-out-of-water batting against quality pace bowlers (luck WILL run out eventually and it probably has already).

2) Personality that feels like Golla-Rajin-Rokibul-Myshukur batting on morphine.

3) Stonefully numb expression on a Meherpuri face perfectly complimenting that docile, clerical personality.

That's pretty much everything, but you're right, "hate" is way too strong a word. I reserve that for those who continue to select weak links for our national team. I long for the day Bangladesh fields a full strength team and not the customary 3 or 4 (if we're lucky) trying to lift rest of the traditional dead weight.

BengaliPagol · #31 May 5, 2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BD Rox
Bhai, you seemed to have even change your Avatar, and that's Imrul. You're a desperate supporter of Imrul. BD needs some supporters like you for every playa.
I really like your posts, man. Keep it up. I'm with ya, mate.
Go Imrul!

Thanks for the support bro.

I love Kayes.

He might have some technical difficulties in his batting but when i watch him bat i watch a classy batsmen in action. Or maybe its just me...

To me Kayes is way ahead of Siddique. He is ahead of most of the team in terms of technique. He has the technique to propel him thru international its just a matter of improving his game and learning. And i think his recent form suggest he should be given another chance in the national team.

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simon · #32 May 5, 2012, 05:52 PM

Me no big fan of Kaedge, but when it comes to ODIs then Kaedge is undoubtedly our 2nd best opener.
Junaid is perfect for Tests & should also play T20s.

Dilscoop · #33 May 5, 2012, 06:13 PM

Nice avatar Pagol.

BengaliPagol · #34 May 5, 2012, 07:02 PM

This is the deconstruction of peoples views on Kayes

There are the supporters of Kayes ie Me & BD Rox

There are the people who dont mind him

There are people who dont really care about him but still want him in the team

There are the people who dont want him in the team

There are people who think the problem is his technique

There are people who think Kayes has good technique but lacks mindset ie Me & BD Rox

I think this is how BC is broken down in terms of support for Kayes. I think the only people that really like Kayes is me and BD Rox.

BengaliPagol · #35 May 5, 2012, 07:04 PM

Thanks Dil.

mar umpire · #36 May 5, 2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
This is the deconstruction of peoples views on Kayes

There are the supporters of Kayes ie Me & BD Rox

There are the people who dont mind him

There are people who dont really care about him but still want him in the team

There are the people who dont want him in the team

There are people who think the problem is his technique

There are people who think Kayes has good technique but lacks mindset ie Me & BD Rox

I think this is how BC is broken down in terms of support for Kayes. I think the only people that really like Kayes is me and BD Rox.

I like kayes. Still think after tamim he's the best opener we've had

Rubu · #37 May 5, 2012, 08:53 PM

Imrul is one of the 'ugly' cricketers, who does not look stylish in play or shows the charm.

Way too many people digs for those and I think those are the people who do not like him. But he does the work better than many other in and in my opinion deserves better treatment.

BengaliPagol · #38 May 5, 2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubu
Imrul is one of the 'ugly' cricketers, who does not look stylish in play or shows the charm.

Way too many people digs for those and I think those are the people who do not like him. But he does the work better than many other in and in my opinion deserves better treatment.

IMO to me he doesnt look like an ugly cricketer. He either blocks or hits hard. Just doesnt rotate strike. He probably picks that up from Tamim. He plays an honest brand of cricket. Doesnt go cross bat to everything. Play well on the off side. Starts timing the ball beautifully when he gets going.

Lets remember the good times shall we?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmNvKlmTLVw

BD Rox · #39 May 6, 2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
Thanks for the support bro.

I love Kayes.

He might have some technical difficulties in his batting but when i watch him bat i watch a classy batsmen in action. Or maybe its just me...

To me Kayes is way ahead of Siddique. He is ahead of most of the team in terms of technique. He has the technique to propel him thru international its just a matter of improving his game and learning. And i think his recent form suggest he should be given another chance in the national team.

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I know. It's very true.
Talking about Siddique, his technique is just terrible. The way he plays shots is horrible.

BD Rox · #40 May 6, 2012, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
This is the deconstruction of peoples views on Kayes

There are the supporters of Kayes ie Me & BD Rox

There are the people who dont mind him

There are people who dont really care about him but still want him in the team

There are the people who dont want him in the team

There are people who think the problem is his technique

There are people who think Kayes has good technique but lacks mindset ie Me & BD Rox

I think this is how BC is broken down in terms of support for Kayes. I think the only people that really like Kayes is me and BD Rox.

Thanks bro. Keep it up.
Fight till you die!

M.H.Rubel · #41 May 6, 2012, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RazabQ
Split this apart because the thread was about FC cricket whereas we were engaged in a discourse on IK's batting technique

Razab Vai this is a good job.A healthy discussion was going on about IMRUL.It was a good idea to make it a different thread.Some of the posts are realy nice analytical and healthy.

RazabQ · #42 May 6, 2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
This is the deconstruction of peoples views on Kayes
There are people who think Kayes has good technique but lacks mindset ie Me & BD Rox

And this is the only group that bugs me!

Guys, please do watch some YouTube videos on batting techniques if you don't believe me or ATMR.

zinatf · #43 May 6, 2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RazabQ
And this is the only group that bugs me!

Guys, please do watch some YouTube videos on batting techniques if you don't believe me or ATMR.

Bhaia thak ja korar korte den...bole ki labh...

BengaliPagol · #44 May 6, 2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RazabQ
And this is the only group that bugs me!

Guys, please do watch some YouTube videos on batting techniques if you don't believe me or ATMR.

You guys make it seem like he has a bad technique when he doesnt. No one in the Bangladesh team has a great technique.

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BANFAN · #45 May 6, 2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
IMO to me he doesnt look like an ugly cricketer. He either blocks or hits hard. Just doesnt rotate strike. He probably picks that up from Tamim. He plays an honest brand of cricket. Doesnt go cross bat to everything. Play well on the off side. Starts timing the ball beautifully when he gets going.
.......

Everything is fine.... But he only keeps giving continuous tension of edging the next ball.... That's the flaw of his technique... And that's why he is Kaedge....

But I do want him to continue in the team, opening with Tamim. Because he has given much better result in partnership with Tamim, than anyone else.... We don't have a replacement ready yet...for ODIs.

But for tests, I think there are a couple of contenders...

simon · #46 May 6, 2012, 05:11 PM

count me in guys, I join your club (but only for ODIs, okay? )
I love KAedge in ODIs ,he is in my blood stream, in my heart bit (hridoyer spondon)

oronnya · #47 May 6, 2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by simon
count me in guys, I join your club (but only for ODIs, okay? )
I love KAedge in ODIs ,he is in my blood stream, in my heart bit (hridoyer spondon)

he he same here.. my full support for Imrul in ODIs !!!

BengaliPagol · #48 May 7, 2012, 04:34 AM

Kayes just hasnt proved himself in the test arena yet. There are other worthy/capable batsmen that can fill the void as test openers such as Nazim or Anamul so i wont bother about Imrul in the test arena.

I would give Imrul a permanent spot in the ODI's. Let him bring his confidence back. He will start to perform if he solely concentrates on ODI's. This will allow him to finetune his technique according to the ODI arena. Then hopefully he will no longer be 'Kaedge'. This will lessen his pressure.

I just feel like he will bring much more to the Bangladesh team if he is in the ODI team.

Tests
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Nazimuddin/Anamul Haque
3. Anamul Haque/Jahurul Islam

ODI's
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Anamul Haque/Jahurul Islam

playmaker · #49 May 7, 2012, 06:19 AM

To be honest technique is something not to be bothered to much. If Imrul wants to be in the league of chanderpaul, hayden, jayasuria he HAS TO WORK hard. He may have been ignored but lets face it, there are people named Jamie Siddons and Brad Hodge, these guys were very good cricketers but they hardly played much intl cricket because Aus had so many batsman already. Look at indian team, guys lke tiwary and rahane have been sidelined for some time because they already have class players

Imrul has to work hard without question and show some determination to become better and better. Otherwise he will remain in the shadow

BD Rox · #50 May 7, 2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
Kayes just hasnt proved himself in the test arena yet. There are other worthy/capable batsmen that can fill the void as test openers such as Nazim or Anamul so i wont bother about Imrul in the test arena.

I would give Imrul a permanent spot in the ODI's. Let him bring his confidence back. He will start to perform if he solely concentrates on ODI's. This will allow him to finetune his technique according to the ODI arena. Then hopefully he will no longer be 'Kaedge'. This will lessen his pressure.

I just feel like he will bring much more to the Bangladesh team if he is in the ODI team.

Tests
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Nazimuddin/Anamul Haque
3. Anamul Haque/Jahurul Islam

ODI's
1. Tamim Iqbal
2. Imrul Kayes
3. Anamul Haque/Jahurul Islam

Dude now why bring in Nazimuddin? I'm a pure hater of Nazimuddin.