Bangladesh A team: Ireland Tour - Page 8

ahnaf · #**176** August 10, 2018, 06:03 AM

75/3.

Shanto gone

Gowza · #**177** August 10, 2018, 06:08 AM

Noooo shanto. Prob going to be an opportunity for al Amin to get a decent score.

BD_TigerZ · #**178** August 10, 2018, 06:16 AM

Good chance for Mominul to stake a claim for a position in the ODI team here.

ahnaf · #**179** August 10, 2018, 07:04 AM

4/138 (Overs 31.0)

Donal C · #**180** August 10, 2018, 07:59 AM

BD A gonna set a very good score, which is to be expected because this is the most experimental line up Ireland have played so far. Basically a domestic XI, packed with all rounders, only about 3-4 dedicated batsmen.

Anyway, 260 plus be a very good total considering the venue's history. BD senior side played here before last year in the tri series

Tigers_eye · #**181** August 10, 2018, 08:11 AM

Dang, that was an expensive over. 21. Wide and 5 fours by Fazle.

Tigers_eye · #**182** August 10, 2018, 08:13 AM

Run a ball should take them to 280+. 4 overs remaining.

Tigers_eye · #**183** August 10, 2018, 08:35 AM

No update in last 20 minutes. What is the final score for BD innings? Anyone?

Tigers_eye · #**184** August 10, 2018, 08:38 AM

Alright, from the Ireland Twitter account:

Cricket Ireland‏Verified account @Irelandcricket 22m22 minutes ago

Passing shower here in Clontarf takes everyone off the ground, Bangladesh A 259/6 Mahmud 58* Uddin 4* in the 47th over

Shapoorji Pallonji and Clontarf CricketClub

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One World · #**185** August 10, 2018, 08:45 AM

Shanto not ready, Mithun deserves a call ahead of Sohan, Fazle definitely should be part of the squad.

One World · #**186** August 10, 2018, 08:54 AM

Quote:

45.5
David Delany to Fazle Rabbi, FOUR
45.4
David Delany to Fazle Rabbi, FOUR
45.3
David Delany to Fazle Rabbi, FOUR
45.2
David Delany to Fazle Rabbi, FOUR
45.1
David Delany to Fazle Rabbi, FOUR

Flurry of fours

zura · #**187** August 10, 2018, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by One World
Shanto not ready, Mithun deserves a call ahead of Sohan, Fazle definitely should be part of the squad.

This is Shanto's first game in the series. Can't really make judgment based on this. Fazle can definitely get a chance based on his batting and he can bowl too.

Eshen · #**188** August 10, 2018, 10:46 AM

Fazle is not a regular bolwer even in domestic. I am still not convinced about his credential as a bowler.

Donal C · #**189** August 10, 2018, 11:43 AM

Al's first ever pint getting closer and closer :P

Ire A 165/1 after 32

WarWolf · #**190** August 10, 2018, 11:56 AM

They are scoring freely.

WarWolf · #**191** August 10, 2018, 12:07 PM

Wolves are toying with BD bolwers.

Donal C · #**192** August 10, 2018, 12:27 PM

Guess we can now say that Irish and Bangladeshi domestic cricket are of a similar level

Donal C · #**193** August 10, 2018, 12:43 PM

Slainte al furqaan. Bets a bet. Bottom's up

Dont make poor aklemalp cover for you. The deen demands it!

zura · #**194** August 10, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Donal C
Guess we can now say that Irish and Bangladeshi domestic cricket are of a similar level

A lot of Irish cricketers play in English county cricket. Their domestic cricket is much better than ours.

Donal C · #**195** August 10, 2018, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by zura
A lot of Irish cricketers play in English county cricket. Their domestic cricket is much better than ours.

Nope, not anymore due to the ECB rule changes.

Of the XI today

Chase was on Durhams books as a teen, played a handful of times. Played in Ireland exclusively the last 4 years. Exact same for Balbirnie who played a handful of times for Middlesex.

Shannon, Thompson, Kane, Tector, McBrine, Singh, Kennedy, Garth all Irish products, bar Singh who grew up in India.

County cricket had little to do with this.

Eshen · #**196** August 10, 2018, 01:03 PM

Really poor bowling performances. Selectors made blunders by not taking better skilled pacers like Anik and Robiul on this tour.

How in the world someone like Khaled keeps getting selected with mediocre domestic stats?!

al Furqaan · #**197** August 10, 2018, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Donal C
Guess we can now say that Irish and Bangladeshi domestic cricket are of a similar level

Too early to tell that. If it is the case, than this Ireland A team ought to be the senior side because the senior side has been losing by an average margin of 150 runs in recent years. Thats an average margin and against mediocre ODI teams like Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

If the domestic quality is good, Ireland's U-19 team should be ranked in the top 12-13 sides, but they often miss out on qualifying for a 16 team world cup.

The core side is quite old: O'brien bros, Joyce (i guess he's retired), Porterfield, Murtagh, etc. Even the younger guys like Stirling, Balbirnie, McCarthy are now well into the prime of their career.

If you look at Bangladesh, players like Mahmudullah, Miraz, Mustafiz, Mominul they are products of the domestic system. Even Tamim, Shakib, and Mushy are a product of the domestic system in the sense that they came up through the U-19 system which is fairly strong in BD.

Tigers_eye · #**198** August 10, 2018, 03:53 PM

Congrats Ireland Wolves. 2-2 draw sounds great at home. You build a fortress at home first. When we got our test status the Zim A team would win 4-0 at our backyard with our then A team (we barely had a national team and didn't have an A team). Very well done. Baby steps. Future looks great. Peter Chase.

tiger1000 · #**199** August 10, 2018, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Eshen
Really poor bowling performances. Selectors made blunders by not taking better skilled pacers like Anik and Robiul on this tour.

How in the world someone like Khaled keeps getting selected with mediocre domestic stats?!

Khaled has done well this series hasn't he?

Donal C · #**200** August 10, 2018, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Too early to tell that. If it is the case, than this Ireland A team ought to be the senior side because the senior side has been losing by an average margin of 150 runs in recent years. Thats an average margin and against mediocre ODI teams like Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

FWIW my comment was more in jest. Obviously BD's domestic is leagues ahead overall, but I do think its fair to say we've shown over the two series we are competitive at this level. 8 ODI's, 6-2 BD with 3 easy BD wins but a couple of close games too. The 4 day game last time was close as well.

tbh ask any Ireland fans and most people wont argue with that point. McCollum, Balbirnie, Singh, McBrine, Chase all have or soon will be mainstays IMO. Kane is banging down the door, Thompson in t20's is a good top order bat. One thing we do have now though, which never existed before, is competition. Wilson in particular is on thin ice and I will be very disappointed if he isnt on his final final chance in the upcoming series vs Afghans, Porterfield is on the brink of (rightfully) losing his t20 spot. Our bowling future actually looks solid. Delany got tonked abit in this series but is the fastest bowler in Ireland hence his accelerated development to the A team. JJ Garth is 16 only and showed he's got something with the bat and vs a team of accomplished players of spin, his ER of about 6 each game was quite good I thought.And there are other talented players not seen in this series who couldve been here too. Neil Rock is drawing Morgan comparisons as he hails from the same club and has been very impressive so far. Harry Tector didnt get much of a chance this series but is very highly regarded, hence the decision to give him the captaincy today.

As for the senior side losing, correct, its been bad lately. The loss vs Zim in the WCQ a particular low point, but tbf with t20 style cricket coming into ODI's more and more massive defeats are happening to all teams, not just Ireland. BD, Australia, SL, Pak etc all have had 150 plus run thumpings.

If the domestic quality is good, Ireland's U-19 team should be ranked in the top 12-13 sides, but they often miss out on qualifying for a 16 team world cup.

If by often you mean once then yeah. You need to analyse the qualification pathway. We face off with Scotland, who naturally enough will be very similar to Ireland in terms of quality at younger age levels because it takes time to fully develop, and they themselves have a good youth programme. Us not qualifying occasionally is down to the garbage system which gives PNG, Nepal (now that Afg are autos), Namibia et al ridiculously easy qualifying and having us and Scotland battle tooth and nail for one spot.

Look at this years WC. Defeated an impressive (and overaged) Afghan team, gave SL a good game, shouldve beaten the WI, annihilated Namibia and PNG. We got done in in that tournament by being in the group of death. Zimbabwe beat Canada and got a 10th place, we beat Afg and were more competitive overall and got 13th. How it goes.

The core side is quite old: O'brien bros, Joyce (i guess he's retired), Porterfield, Murtagh, etc. Even the younger guys like Stirling, Balbirnie, McCarthy are now well into the prime of their career.

Joyce is retired. All the guys you mention are relatively old yes but tbf batsmen can retain their ability for a long time. Stirling is, what, 27? McCarthy 25 IIRC, Balbirnie true, he needs to step up and transfer this to senior level. But these guys will be around for 10 years or more yet potentially. No need to worry in that front IMO. And the future talent will challenge them. Do agree though the first list of players need to be replaced, however Murtagh will likely leave soon, Suspect he wont be alone.

If you look at Bangladesh, players like Mahmudullah, Miraz, Mustafiz, Mominul they are products of the domestic system. Even Tamim, Shakib, and Mushy are a product of the domestic system in the sense that they came up through the U-19 system which is fairly strong in BD.

Anyway I wont have many chances to tease you about your youngsta beauty getting taken for 10 an over by my boys like in the previous game