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September 14, 2018, 03:10 PM
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LOL I highly doubt it will work. Let's open another thread where we can discuss what works at bar. I got some interesting stories on that. right, right zee?
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Feel free. I also like to get inundated with our Romeos' midnight escapades and adventures and their plightful rejections, negging. misery lit and what not suicide notes with ronktato haater wall painting of 'i love you' 1 million times when not jumping off bridge.
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September 14, 2018, 10:39 AM
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Is being a murid of a peer allowed in Islam?
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September 14, 2018, 11:17 AM
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Is being a murid of a peer allowed in Islam?
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Pir is a spiritual guide and murid is a student.
You need to embrace a more spiritual version of Islam (Sufism) to accept the idea.
In other words it depends on your views regarding Sufism.
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September 14, 2018, 12:00 PM
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I have very limited knowledge in this, and Most likely my views are wrong. But I believe I do not need a spiritual guide to connect with God. He himself will connect with me if I call Him. Prayers are there for a reason. No one can save me from what is written in my fate and no one can give me what isn't written. Only Allah/God has the power to do so
I personally think that These pir babas are there to make some fortune and exploit those illiterates who put more faith in them than Allah. Even if they were genuine, why would I need them when I have Quran to refer to
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September 14, 2018, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by roman
I have very limited knowledge in this, and Most likely my views are wrong. But I believe I do not need a spiritual guide to connect with God. He himself will connect with me if I call Him. Prayers are there for a reason. No one can save me from what is written in my fate and no one can give me what isn't written. Only Allah/God has the power to do so
I personally think that These pir babas are there to make some fortune and exploit those illiterates who put more faith in them than Allah. Even if they were genuine, why would I need them when I have Quran to refer to
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First disclaimer:
I am an apostate ..
The idea of sainthood is frowned upon my the conservative version of islam (the version saudi exported to bangladesh)... hence you will also find news of sufi shrines being constantly attacked by the talibans and other such groups.
As far as exploitation of the poor and illiterate is concerned, it is not exclusive to pir babas.. religion is big business.
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September 14, 2018, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tonmoy.dhaka
First disclaimer:
I am an apostate ..
The idea of sainthood is frowned upon my the conservative version of islam (the version saudi exported to bangladesh)... hence you will also find news of sufi shrines being constantly attacked by the talibans and other such groups.
As far as exploitation of the poor and illiterate is concerned, it is not exclusive to pir babas.. religion is big business.
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I'd respectfully disagree with it. Now is not the time. If you think religion is big business, that needs to be under separate thread called 'religion is big business, right BC?' lol
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