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Old September 17, 2004, 01:16 AM
Imtiaz Imtiaz is offline
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Default The reason they are called batsmen is because they occupy batting positions.

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Originally posted by chinaman


If we take a closer look at the batting line-up, we'll see a batsman short more often than not.

So, we are not only a batsman short but also missing a paceman too.

Six batsmen, three pacemen and a keeper should be the norm for us as it has been for others as well. The last spot goes either to an allrounder or to a specialist spinner depending on situational demands.

Some might argue that Rana is the sixth batsman. I seriously doubt such notion as he is replaced so often with the so-called allrounders. I guess the think tank considers Rana along with Musfiq and Mahmud to be the so-called allrounders, or multi-skilled for that matter.

An extra batsman may be able to offer a little more resistance while three pacemen and a spinner will form the main attack getting help from the part timers. A keeper is always expected to be good at batting. We may end up giving away few more runs because of the part timers, but we may score a few more runs from the sixth batsman as well.
Bangladesh

ODI Career Batting Averages
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Based on all matches up to and including
ODI # 2175: Bangladesh v West Indies at Southampton, ICC Champions Trophy, 15/09/2004

Name Mat I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St

Aftab Ahmed 2 2 0 21 21 10.50 36.84 - - --
Alok Kapali 42 41 2 797 89* 20.43 65.81 - 4 16 -
Faisal Hossain 4 4 0 35 17 8.75 42.68 - - 2 -
Habibul Bashar 53 53 0 936 74 17.66 57.07 - 8 10 -
Hannan Sarkar 20 20 0 383 61 19.15 53.71 - 3 8 -
Javed Omar 32 32 3 703 85* 24.24 49.96 - 6 6 -
Khaled Mahmud 64 61 3 823 50 14.18 67.45 - 1 13 -
Khaled Mashud 82 76 14 1112 54* 17.93 50.82 - 4 59 16
Manjural Islam Rana 11 11 3 214 63 26.75 51.81 - 1 1 -
Mehrab Hossain 18 18 0 449 101 24.94 58.84 1 2 6 -
Mohammad Ashraful 37 37 2 564 66 16.11 64.09 - 4 4 -
Mohammad Rafique 65 61 11 668 77 13.36 72.45 - 1 15 -
Mushfiqur Rahman 25 23 2 331 49 15.76 51.71 - - 5 -
Nafis Iqbal 4 4 0 55 40 13.75 50.00 - - - -
Rajin Saleh 21 21 0 457 71 21.76 52.58 - 3 3 -
Shahriar Hossain 20 19 0 362 95 19.05 53.07 - 2 5 -
Tushar Imran 24 23 0 403 65 17.52 64.37 - 2 3 -
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Chinaman, with due respect, calling for 6/7 specialist batsmen with current resources is a bit of wishful thinking. The reason we play at least two "multi-skilled" players is due to desperate need rather than choice.

With the exception of Javed Omar no one currently commands an average of 20 or more. Before, anyone says Rajin and Kapali, I would humbly ask them to compute the last 10 innings' average. I doubt if it would be above 10.00. Rana's average is exagerrated by playing too few matches and playing "not outs" against Zimbabwe. After another 5 matches his too would also go below 20. I am not sure what happened with Mehrab ? I could not follow Bangladesh cricket in those days.

The reason they are called batsmen is because they occupy batting positions. Compare the averages of Ashraful, Bashar, Mushfiq, Mahmud and Mashud respectively.

16.11, 17.66, 15.76, 14.18, 17.93. Are they in statistical terms significantly different ?

Frankly, I do believe that Tapash, if he was sent earlier would also have a similar average. His batting technique is no worse than many of the so-called batsmen. I believe , also, that Tareq Aziz's defence is probably better than most of our batsmen !

Given our lowly position, our bowling in ODI's [ test matches are different = we cannot bowl sides out ] is not that bad.

However, as some have suggested calling Rajin, Ashraful and Kapali bowlers is a bad joke ! They turn their arm, that's about it. Kapali is slightly better that the other two.In 10 overs they will go, on average, for 70 runs - that's 20 more than our fifth bowler currently concedes.

Until 3 genuine batsmen arrive [ i.e. average of at least 30 ], consistent scores of above 220 will not be possible. Therefore, even any small chance of a win will not exist until then. In the meantime, "multi-skilled" players have to be included to shore up both batting and bowling. I accept this is a sign of weakness but this selection policy is deployed because we are weak. Note England used to be full of "bits'n pieces" players until recently. Ronnie Irani types. As the team improved genuine batsmen and bowlers filled up the places. And one all-rounder !

I note Dav's very astute use of the phrase. He did not call them [ or Mushfiq, in particular ] "all rounder" ! He has a reason.

Edited on, September 17, 2004, 6:30 AM GMT, by Imtiaz.
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